First time seeing her with NS/OW on FB!!!

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#1 Jul 29 - 9PM
rosedewittbukater
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First time seeing her with NS/OW on FB!!!

It has taken me several days to be able to compose myself enough to share this here. Was doing so-so, hurting intensely but I was functioning. When out of the blue my woman's intuition whispered something in my ear. It told me to peek. So I did. Though I was unfriended during one (yes there were several) D&D's...we still had mutual "friends". I looked at a post from a mutual friend that I instinctively knew would have elicited a response from xN, and lo and behold it did! Then I was confronted by my fear and I saw the thumbnail pic of them together. I felt my stomach tense into a giant knot and I was sure I was about to vomit. Why did I do this to myself??? What stings the most is that during all the years we were together she never once acknowledged our relationship on FB and certainly never posted any pictures of us together - though a handful had been taken. I'm not sure what I am asking for here but I just felt like I needed to vent about this. I don't think I will ever be able to wrap my mind around this or ever get how they can move on and erase us as if nothing ever happened. This affected me so badly I deleted my account. I guess I wondered if anyone else had similar experience and how long will it take me to get that image out of my head? When in everloving God's name will I ever be okay again?? I don't know this NS from Adam. But I can't stop all the thoughts running through my head over and over about whether or not it will be different for her and will they live happily ever after and will she give her all the love she never gave me?

Aug 4 - 3PM
peacelily76
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Facebook should be banned

I hate Facebook as much as I like it. It is the perfect platform for narcs. It hurts people's feelings. It encourages voyeurism. It encourages anti-social behaviour. It encourages the exploitation of children and young adults. It glamorises fake body images. It strips friendships down to banal postings and status updates so we don't call each other as much. It's fucking up the planet. Mark Zuckerberg is a twat. Narcs love it because they an fool the world with one profile photo that their life is a perfect Hollywood dream when in actual fact there is some poor woman behind the scenes who is about to suffer as much as you did but none of this will ever reach the FB status updates. None of the narc's friends will ever get a whiff of the abuse going on behind closed doors. As an aside, my ex narc never once posted a photo of the two of us together as his profile photo. It was always just him. He has had a baby son recently. But was there a pic of just his new baby? No, it had to be of him and the new baby. Is there any sign of his new girlfriend? Nope! She is behind the scenes, just like all of us.
Aug 4 - 5PM (Reply to #28)
rosedewittbukater
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Narcs Playground

Peacelily you are so dead-on with what you write about Facebook. I could not agree more. You know when I first saw her profile and saw that she posted **hundreds** of photos of herself that should have been a huge red flag! My therapist told me she has heard this story over and over again and she thinks FB is evil!
Aug 4 - 3PM (Reply to #27)
Gerri
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Peacelily

Excellent post. Agree re Mark Zuckerberg! Same here my ex narc never posted a picture of me and him together - they were always of him. Some he even cut me off and put just his half of the photo up. So glad I left him xxxx
Aug 4 - 10AM
Goldie
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Painful to see that

The facebook peeks can be deadly. The only way I could stop myself was to delete all connections and then to block all potential people I may use to snoop in a weak moment. So now if I go on facebook and try to look them up, they don't show up. I wouldn't take the business about your not ever being portrayed on facebook by her as an indication that there is more with the new OW than with you. You said you were together for a long time so obviously there is a long history between you which does not exist with the new one, so don't even go there. Narcs LOVE to ACT like the new one is going to be the "cure all" for all their problems for like 5 minutes until ALL the same issues they had with you show up with the new one. Also, they love to do things like this just to get under your skin and to make it look like they are SO HAPPY now, it is ALL a big crock of shit. They will traditionally do the exact opposite of what they did with you that pissed you off for years with the new one in the beginning to "act" like they have changed and they see the light now. It's all garbage. Mine told me that his X wanted a joint bank account, wanted more alone time, wanted more sex, blah blah blah. So he made a point of being that way with me in the beginning, even though, I did not ask for any of this, to somehow prove something to himself or her, through me. Everything they do is for show. She is doing this for show, NOT because the OW is any better than you. Snooping is all part of the recovery process, I think most of us have done it and plenty of it. You will keep doing it until it hurts so bad or you are so tired of the obsession that you just don't want to know anymore. Just remember that they treat everyone the same in the end and no one gets a better life with a Narc than we had. Just concentrate on your recovery and in a short period of time there will be trouble in the new relationship as well. They do NOT know how to have a healthy relationship with anyone. God bless, Goldie P.s. Good move deleting facebook. You may need to stay off for awhile to avoid that temptation.
Aug 4 - 5PM (Reply to #25)
rosedewittbukater
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Golide

Thank you. Your reply was comforting. hugs, Rose
Aug 4 - 8AM
Deidre40
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I’m so sorry you’re

I’m so sorry you’re struggling and hurting. When it comes to ‘mutal’ friends…I have a lot of experience. Lol I laugh because I shared a lot on here about this very thing. It’s not so much that the ex N means all that much to us once we go NC, and stick to it—it’s the ‘information’ that the mutual friends seem to bring to us, directly or indirectly that keeps us spinning. (to use the poster, spinning’s quote *wink*) I think that the best thing would be to not look at your mutual friends’ FB pages. Delete them as friends for now…if they truly are friends, they will want you to heal. True friends have your back. They don’t gossip and hurt you behind it. But, this all takes time. Gosh, I was where you are back in June. Now, I can honestly say…I can actually chat with these mutual pals, (some I cut out for good, as they are malicious gossipers) and not be phased when they bring the ex N up. I may be in a different place with my healing than you are—but trust me. You’ll get there. For now, eliminate the temptations that draw you to look. I will pray for your continued healing.
Aug 4 - 5PM (Reply to #23)
rosedewittbukater
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thanks D

I do want to get to that place. I know I have a long way to go though. I think getting of FB is a step in the right direction for me. xx Rose
Aug 4 - 5AM
KRISTINA
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OMG

I just read this post and i feel like I read my own story. Yes, I was a stalker before, peeking his FB all the time, even though he has blocked me, I has created new account. What a pity. And I found what you found, Rose. Exactly the same. He put his photo together with the OW, and the OW is someone who he keep denied when he was with me. shameless. He put comment on her wall too like saying I'm so lucky to have you. it was the words he said to me before. And I heard he will marry her soon, although they are different in religion, something that he always against, he called people who has relationship with different religion as an idiot. so now i know he is an idiot. He say it for himself. what a joke! I decided to stop peeking since then, no more hurt feeling for myself, I have enough. He said on his wall that he is so happy being with her now. I dont know what the feeling i have now, anger, sadness, pissed off, envy (?) but half of me feel happy somehow. I just dont understand why only me who have to feel suffered, while he is happy now with the OW. The hardest part when I know his family who used to convince me that he will never has relationship with the OW since she has different religion, now so welcome to her. what makes me stronger is the thought that I get my self back. when i am with him i cannot put high heels on my feet, because he is short, i cannot wear light dress as i have to respect him, I cannot make a joke because he will get me wrong. I totally back to the person i used to be. If they are happy now, good for them, I just believe God has a better plan for me, and loves me, that is why HE show me this N's true color. Thanks for your post her Rose, I never feel alone when i come to this site. HUgsss
Jul 30 - 1PM
Reddley
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I had blocked my exN on

I had blocked my exN on facebook, the day I blocked his email. I actually had to force myself to do it. I was checking his stupid page all the time obsessing like some kind of nut. Thought it was all good... Nope. This morning I wake up to comments from him to a girl we work with that we're both friends with. Cute. Not that he's interested in her. She's engaged and knows what's going on with him and I. She's not terribly impressed with him at all. At any rate. I messaged her and said "I'm sorry Danny but I'm taking you off of facebook... and everyone else that we work with. I love ya kid but I'm trying to avoid all contact with him and I just realized that friends of friends of friends... all of us at work... he can see what I say and I can see what he says. Knowing our situation, I hope you understand it's nothing personal." The only way to ensure you're going to not have things seen by her is if you have no mutual friends and your settings are tight... only friends can see Removing people is hard... ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Jul 30 - 9PM (Reply to #19)
rosedewittbukater
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I am off

completely. I just cannot take the chance. I don't want to communicate with any of the mutual friends because they really aren't my friends anyway. Good for you though you are handling it nicely with these folks and I am sure that they will understand that it is not personal. With me there was a lot of triangulation going on with one person in particular and I just cannot be part of this any more. xx Rose
Jul 30 - 10PM (Reply to #20)
Reddley
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Good girl. It's for the best

Good girl. It's for the best if you're an obsessive type like me. You'll make yourself crazy. Right now you need peace.
Jul 30 - 10AM
SoaperGirl
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Peeking and Checking up on the Narc - Is it a good idea?

I've done the same especially in the beginning...his website, before he abandoned it, running off and screaming he was insane. I peeked at his empty house listing, whatever source of information I could find...I peeked and checked up on him almost constantly! Did it hurt? Oh Yes! It hurt like Hell, like being stabbed in the gut..but you know what? As time went on, I healed still more..later, I could look back at whatever info had originally caused me such pain, and you know what I felt? NOTHING! I figured I might as well see the worst he could dish out, and soon it began to have no effect at all. There was a kind of ho-hum, who cares attitude! I toughened up to his antics. He lost his power to hurt me! Good idea or not? Some yes, some no, depends on the woman involved. Ultimately it helped me face reality, and forced me to start healing and moving forward. For me, it was a good idea. Thankfully, he's tried to go quiet as a mouse on the internet, and I'm grateful! It has helped and aided in my healing. Hang in there, it gets better!
Jul 30 - 10AM
ruby01 (not verified)
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I'm

sorry you had to see this. I know it hurts like hell but, you really didn't have to see this. Remember that it brought you down from your journey out. You spent time thinking about yourself and you were healing. This was a self inflicted wound, One you ultimately chose to do. Don't do it! Ask yourself next time you have the desire, "Rose, what possible good can come from looking." Stop hurting yourself. Be strong. You can do it. It's just really hard and you have to envision your future as being so much better because of your strength at this time.
Jul 30 - 7AM
Sparrow
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There is no such thing s

There is no such thing s happily ever after with narcs. Period. It will take some time. Takes some longer then others. Like anything else in life, you have to "want" it. If you want it, recovery and healing, you will work hard to get it. be honest with yourself, set reasonable goals, and stay focused. Took me a year almost to the date. Some less, some a lot more. Depends on the person. I had many slips, after the last slip, I had to start to take this all a lot more seriously..............which I did. And I had to face facts and let go..........it's a long, hard road, one not so easily traveled, but the final destination............is beautiful! Chin up! Focus and stay strong!
Jul 30 - 7AM
Lobo555
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That's EXACTLY How I Found Out!

"When out of the blue my woman's intuition whispered something in my ear. It told me to peek. So I did." Same thing with me. What I saw on his page was a wall post saying, "Miss you already!" This was put up two days after I ended things with CharlieSheenWinning. They got MARRIED 3 weeks later!!! Tailspin of CD, PTSD, weeping -- so horrible. That was around 4 1/2 months ago. Now I'm finally pulling out of it. He's still with her, but now I feel more thankful that it's her, not me. He never acknowledged me on FB or around town, either. I was the plaything, the girl who was "fun." :/ It's a long, painful road, but at least you're here. I found this board and everyone here so helpful! {{hugs}} I know how bad it is to find out this way.
Jul 30 - 10PM (Reply to #14)
rosedewittbukater
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Oh Lobo

3 weeks later? Oh I am so sorry you went through that. That had to be crushing. To not be acknowledged in this way (on FB) was so hurtful. It was calculating and deliberate, at least in my situation. Thank you for the encouragement.
Jul 30 - 2AM
lavendar19
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Your post came at a perfect

Your post came at a perfect time. Today I peeked too and saw the OW and him together, after he had unceremoniously discarded her and literally moved on with a smile the very next day, admitting how much I meant to him all along, he is back with her and giving me the silent treatment..lol.. seeing them made my gut a little uneasy. More than a little, I suppose. But just like you know deep down, I know deep down too that she won't be any different. He is who he is. Stay strong lady, an empty mind is a devil's workshop..go do some yoga, exercise, throw yourself into work or something else positive for a while.. otherwise all these what if's will tear you apart. He won't change with her, and she is suffering right now to SOME degree (unless it's temporary honeymoon phase) and the suffering will increase with time and mentally exhaust her. While I'm becoming a stronger woman to some extent and working on my confidence, the OW is being torn down and stepped on - I know this, and yes..call me evil or whatever, I feel good about it, it's human nature. I don't feel sorry for her just yet, it's too soon.
Jul 29 - 10PM
Hunter
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Just more scrambled eggs ,

Just more scrambled eggs , peeking? Not a good idea! Hunter
Jul 29 - 10PM
adoette
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ouch

Ugh. I can't imagine that happening. Honestly, I would be sick about it. Sorry you have to deal with this. I'm not sure when you will be okay again, but you have to know that you WILL be okay again. You will. Did you have your narc blocked? If you enjoy FB otherwise and find it important in your life for connecting with family and friends, you could block her. My N is blocked and my security is highest level possible. I've run some tests, and it looks like FB does a decent job at keeping the blocked one away and vice versa. That said, if you find FB to be more of a pain, hats off to you for deleting. I just hate for the narc to take that away from you if it is something that is important to you, ya know? Hang in there. You ARE making progress. Just doesn't feel like it when something like this slaps you upside the head. ~Adoette
Jul 29 - 10PM (Reply to #8)
rosedewittbukater
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blocking

Thank you Adoette. I just can't take the risk and I don't trust myself enough right now not to look. She blocked me long time ago so the mutual friends are the only reason I saw what I saw. I guess I could hide the mutual friends who aren't really my friends anyway but what's not to say I get curious again and unhide or unblock and see something again. I think FB was becoming too important to me anyway and this way I'll know who my real friends are. If they want to reach out to me they can pick up the damn phone or email me. People still do that, don't they?? Besides, from what I hear on here, they can unblock you anytime they feel like it and check up on you whenever they want and why should she be allowed to look in on what is going on in my life when she never gave a rat's ass before and denied me that privilege??
Jul 30 - 11AM (Reply to #9)
adoette
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rosedewittbukater

I hear ya. FB can be as addicting as the narc! Honestly, I can't see any harm from deleting a FB account, especially if it is tempting you and doing you harm. Are you sure you are blocked by her? Because it was my impression that you can't see anyone if they block you. (I tested this with a friend of mine.) I'm just saying that IF you reactivate your account, you need to block her. Sure, you can unblock her anytime if you are tempted, but you can't snoop around without unblocking her. Hopefully you'll stick to your deleting plan, but if you go back to FB, please do block her. (I'm not doubting your resolve, but I know that for myself, when it came to the narc and my resolutions, they sometimes changed, so I guess I want you to be aware of your options, just in case.) Yes, your real friends will still stay in contact with you as you with them. Shoot, if you miss FB too much later on (like YEARS from now...smile), you can always start a new account and go from there. Hope today is bringing you some peace as you get further away from the shock of seeing her with someone else. Stay strong, Adoette
Jul 30 - 10PM (Reply to #10)
rosedewittbukater
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blocking

Thank you for letting me know about all the options. Some day down the road if I go back I will know what to do. xx Rose
Jul 29 - 10PM
BadaBing
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Rose

Sorry you are hurting so much over seeing them together. It is for the best that you deleted your accouint so you won't be temped to peek again (and inflict further pain on your self ) But don't you find it interesting that your gut told you to look, and when you did there WAS something to find? It is abusive to not be acknowledged (ignored, form of passive aggression, silent treatment) I am not familiar with your story yet. But it is best that you stop looking as it will only hurt you more and more. Also watch out for the negative self talk. I know a few people that were very shocked and hurt over what is posted on facebook and you dont need that in your face! good for you to suspend your account for awhile until you can heal hope you feel better soon
Jul 29 - 10PM (Reply to #2)
rosedewittbukater
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Thanks BB

I know you are right. I guess it isn't the first time my gut told me something like this. What is eery is that it also happened with online dating site. Something told me she was there so I looked and found she had just put up her profile less than 24 hours before I looked and found it. It tried to tell me lots of things with all the red flags years ago and I should have listened. I haven't posted my story yet because she spends alot of time online and I am actually afraid she might see it.
Jul 29 - 11PM (Reply to #3)
strivingforhealing (not verified)
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sweetie, I am on off FB because the peeking hurt like hell

and it is so so freeing now not to feel compelled to look and get hurt again and again. I was a big FB user for a year or more and this was not easy..but every time I would peek and get any info. that showed he might be with someone else ( I never proved it 100%) but even the possibility was a fucking huge stab in my heart...I could not take it anymore and I knew my obsession needed a major roadblock...I took total care of myself by getting of FB....I may go back in months, years...when this healing has truly taken hold.... I support you 100% . I know this pain you have...One day at a time, removing triggers, staying NC...getting love and support here- you will be FREE and JOYFUL. It just takes time...time...time.. Love and Blessings to you
Jul 30 - 12AM (Reply to #4)
rosedewittbukater
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Striving

Huge fucking stab to the heart, then a slow twisting motion. Thanks for your support. Counselor supported this move to drop off also. Your words do give me small inklings of hope which are encouraging. Next I will get started on those triggers and put them all away in 3 lock box and hide it in the rafters of the garage. Thanks again cc Rose
Jul 30 - 12PM (Reply to #5)
strivingforhealing (not verified)
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Let's do this together! Instead of FB- come here for connection!

I so so know that stab in the heart and twisting gut wrenching feeling..It was so so horrific when I looked..It would affect me for days...No more self inflicted wounds...We know the truth anyways sweetie- the OW will not be living a life of love and sweetness with him for long..My N probably went back to his ex before me- and he said so so many horrible things about her to me when he came back to me...by now- they are most likely out of the honeymoon seduction phase and into the discard phase..I want to feel sympathy and compassion for her- she is a sweet girl who just like me- wanted to believe her love could change him... So whenever you get the urge to look at FB, the internet about him or her..or do any checking- come here to us...go where the love is, not the darkness.. if it would help to have someone to talk to when you are feeling triggered- I would be happy to give you my # in private.
Jul 30 - 9PM (Reply to #6)
adoette
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SFH

I love the way you put that: "go where the love is, not the darkness..."