Ex keeps me confused

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#1 Jun 22 - 8AM
justwantpeace
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Ex keeps me confused

I am really working to seperate myself from ex and get thru this legal mess concerning son. I have told him I want nothing to do with him. He says I am being mean to him and why am I being this way. He still keeps us seperated. He will not bring the new wife to any functions that I will be at with son.

He married the ow. She has a facebook page now. I looked. She has their wedding pix as her profile pix. It stung.

Ive just had it with him trying to have the control. I finally said this is divorce. He has been all about son and wanting to be around all the time for "son". I said you chose to leave him and not be there full time and be with another woman full time. i said so stop blaming me. I havent heard from him since this and I hope I dont.

this is so frustrating thta they cant see what their part in the damage they create.

Jun 23 - 7AM
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coparenting

oh they do go round and round in their talk. I was told last night that it hurts him that I wont coparent with him. Also he said I never wanted to try. I let him know dont worry my text are being obtained showing where I tried to coparent and if he would like a copy of them he can have them. He said well you should have given me the times in your text. It was his night with son. I made plans with friends and said Im with friends and Im busy. I told him I didnt want to talk to him. So half way during his time, I get a text message that he dropped son off early. Ok this is a man who has argued and argued saying I dont give him time with son. He never gets to see son and has to fight to get him. so he drops him off early. I just want him to go away and all the legal battle about son to be over. I wish he would go D&D. I found out last night after hiding his relationship with ow and marriage, that son was the best man at the wedding. ex let new wife have a talk with son. that infuriated me. I couldnt even get him to sit down and talk to son together about the divorce. He is the lowest form of human I have ever dealt with. OF course he denies everything son says and says Im not getting the whole story. I hate this for my son.
Jun 22 - 10AM
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They are skilled

They are skilled in the art of confusion. And they will ALWAYS twist it and make you the bad guy. I find it amazing that they know no boundry when it comes to what they can and will do to you but when you have had enough and finally blow or try to walk away they ask us how we can do this to THEM ?! Mine asks the same thing from time to time .. how can I be so mean or heartless etc. It truly is "All about HIM" like Lisa's book says. I can't figure out if they know what they are doing or they are so self absorbed they truly do not see it!
Jun 22 - 1PM (Reply to #5)
justwantpeace
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boundaries

oh they dont know them.
Jun 22 - 11AM (Reply to #2)
Lisa E. Scott
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The Narcissist's Tools

The narcissist uses five main tools. These are gifts, affection, withdrawal, threats and violence, and in exactly this order. 1. Gifts: Gifts can be used in two ways. They can either be a symbol of submission or a symbol of demand. Free people generally do not give gifts because they have what they want and do not want to submit nor demand. The communication between the victim and the narcissist is based upon gifts. The narcissist gives gifts in order to make the victim depended. The victim in return accepts these gifts and returns far greater gifts in order to accept this submission. The altruist on the other hand simply helps but does not give gifts either. Sometimes these “gifts” can be flattery, good words, support and yes … “love.” (faked of course) 2. Affection: The narcissist very early on claims soulmate-ship, special connection, ultimate love. Or he makes the victim believe these things without outright declaration. Everything seems incredible and unbelievable - a dream come true. Free people might show each other affection but generally feel comfortable with themselves. They might enjoy the company of someone but will stay focused on their own interests. The victim may be needy due to some childhood, current or past abuse(s). The narcissist is not needy in terms of affection but need for admiration within the group of chosen victims (his partner/spouse, family members, “friends”, co-workers, VICTIMS) where the narcissist keeps his or her spider-web. However, the narcissist gives this affection in order to draw the victim into this spider web. This is a difficult time for the narcissist because the narcissist cannot be truly intimate with anyone. Ever. Hence, intimacy is replaced by sex. 3. Withdrawal: Once the victim’s dependency is re-directed onto the narcissist, the narcissist begins to withdraw. Step by step the supposed closeness is disappearing. The victim experiences this as a great loss and the narcissist finds him or herself on a high. The narcissist thinks something like: “I on’t have to give gifts, I don’t have to show affection, and yet I am being admired.” 4. Threats: The victim who remains needy is in shock that no affection is shown to him or her by the narcissist and starts to withdraw him - or herself. Now the narcissist starts to panic because the admiration seems to be diminishing and (s)he starts to threaten the victim. These threats are of the kind: “You are a liar. You said you loved me but now you obviously don’t” or “if you loved me you’d believe me” or “you don’t understand how bad I feel that you have withdrawn” or “if you loved me you would -- (something far outside the victim’s comfort zone; usually sexually) Now, the narcissist resorts back to the first tools including gifts and sex and threatens that they will be withheld. Strangely enough, this has already happened but the narcissist will try to convince the victim that all is as it always used to be. In this sense these threats are imaginary only. 5. Violence: At one point the narcissist will fail to convince the victim any longer by means of persuasion, brainwashing and changed perception. Now the narcissist will resort to violence. This is the stage when abuse in the common sense takes place. This includes blocking out the victim, seducing the victim’s friends, lying about the victim, rude or sarcastic comments to the victim, demanding abusive (things the victim would not normally do) sexual favors from the victim, bad mouthing, threatening them or their families or friends, hacking their email, hacking any websites, stalking them online, posting slander about them online and using the police with selective information provided by the narcissist. by Dr. Ludger Hofmann-Engl
Jun 22 - 1PM (Reply to #4)
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threat

Its the threat stage I feel we are at. I am trying to sever ties and pull away. Ive done the "i want nothing ever to do with you again". He starts in with the why are you acting this way and eventually gets mad at me. Then he is trying to act as we can coparent and he just wants to be there for son. He even said he worries about son so much that he can barely work. oh please i can remember asking for help and he couldnt because he had to work. so he is trying to I assume the gift stage to draw me back in with trying to cooperate and "do the right things". I havent seen any violence in a while. I was talking to my son about telling him if he wanted extra time with dad it was ok. Ive tried to make him aware of the issues to make sure he is aware and to be careful. He was saying I really dont want extra time with dad, I really just want a break. I thought that was strange and asked him a couple of questions. ex says son is just fine with him. I said well your dad says you have a good time and everything goes ok. He said it was fine this past weekend even with the new wife there. He said I thought with her there he would have to pay her some attention and not always be about me. He said dad wasnt like that. He really didnt pay her any attention and was all about me. He said I got tired of that and just need a break from it.
Jun 22 - 1PM (Reply to #3)
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omw

this is exactly how I feel. Im trying to pull away and get away from him. I have told him in our current legal battle over our son, I want everything sperated and to parent on my own. I told him I want nothing to do with him. I said I dont want to see him, talk to him, or even be around him. He said I was being mean and how could I be like this to him. So I feel like he is in the panic stage where I am trying to pull away and he panics trying to keep me there. this is a great post