The email my ex-N sent me last Monday

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#1 Jun 27 - 9AM
NinjaGirl
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The email my ex-N sent me last Monday

I had sent him an email telling him how sorry I was for hurting him when I had hurt him over the years, and how I hoped he could forgive me, and how I was working on myself, but that I still loved him. At that time, a mere week ago, I still wanted him back. This is the email he sent me in response. I'd like to point out the lack of responsibility, how it's all about him, and the pure melodrama in it. He fancies himself to be this great author. His stories aren't that great, and they're all cookie-cutter and nothing but exposition. Oh, and his ex didn't marry someone like him. She married a decent guy:

"I've been working with words longer than I've been an adult. I like to think I know them, that they're the tools I use the same way (his mechanic) uses his on my car.

But they don't always come to me easily. They're not laid out in perfect order waiting to be used. I can't reach over to a certain spot and there will be the words I need.

They're one of the most powerful tools the world has ever seen. But for all that power they refuse to be constrained. Maybe it's the price for their effectiveness.

For what it's worth, the last several weeks have been brutal. I've had to look inside myself, past it all, and try to figure out who I even am anymore.

I'm tired of seeing guys I know with good wives or even kids who I don't think have half the commitment to their relationship that I've given to every one of mine.

I'm tired of feeling like almost every good woman I know has been ruined by some asshole and is now incapable of trusting the few of us guys left who are sincere and honest.

I've been honest with every woman I've ever dated. Brutally so. And there were many, many times where simple ommission of facts would have made my life a hell of a lot easier. I can't count the things I could have not said, held back, or otherwise not let out that would have smoothed out the road.

But I didn't. Yes, there were times I couldn't explain what was going on internally; there will always be those times. I am a complicated, difficult to understand person. I accept that. It's who I am.

I have always strived to honor and uphold the chivalrous virtues. I don't treat women as objects. I come to the aid of any who need me. And I honor my commitments and promises to the very end.

Twice now I've lost a good woman. Both that I really cared about. Both that I really loved. That pain is raw. It sits up with me at night. It burns in the places of my soul that I cannot reach with any amount of tranquility or calm. I've had maybe three or four really good nights of sleep in over a month. And I often think those were due to simple exhaustion.

I know that I don't walk a normal path. The road I'm on is not a previously trod one. There's barely a trail. I have only my internal compass, my instincts, and my conscience as guides. But that's all I'll need.

Maybe that road isn't big enough for two. Maybe part of being unbending in your beliefs is having to accept that you won't always have it easy.

But I believe, honestly, that I have done the best I could with the knowledge that I had. Yes, there are many things I have left to learn. And I will when the time is right. But I can only work within my limitations.

I'm proud of what you're accomplishing. And I hope that you succeed in all that you put your mind to. I want you to be what I saw was in you; who I know you can be.

These people, they do not understand. They have never seen what I see. Their sight, their real true sight, is blocked by the mundane things of the world, by the superficial. It's as if a lousy prison of flesh and bone can supress their vision of the spark within. I pity them. I wish I could share with the world for one instant what this soul sees when it looks at another. I wish I could share what my spirit feels when I am driving through the night with the windows down and the music loud and the whole of the world is with me.

I know that it would change them. I know that it would cure so many things, put so much in perspective.

It is never a matter of love with me. There are few people I don't love. There are few I can't forgive.

I forgave (his ex) for leaving me over someone more exciting and then marrying someone very much like me.

I forgave (my ex) for still pursuing you after you two had broken up.

I forgave (his ex coworker) for sabotaging my possibility with a job offer.

There are others, smaller and less memorable, but I forgave those too.

And I forgive you for your fear. I know, at least partially, why you did it. I've felt that pain in you. I wish I'd had a way to heal it, but I didn't. It sounds like you are on the road to healing it. I hope that you get there.

There is nothing wrong with you. And you are beautiful. You always were.

And my instincts are similar. Whatever has come between us, you are still my friend. You always will be the first woman I made love to. Nothing can erase that. The bonds I create, they cannot be broken. There is no blade sharp enough to cut them. I will always be there to help you. And I am grateful in turn for the help you have provided me in this difficult time, despite the pain it has likely caused.

I think about the last six years too. There are many things I miss.

But I know that there are some places I can't walk back to. I know that there are some roads that are closed.

I am sorry for what we both lost. I'm sorry for an opportunity that we can't pursue.

But I know that I can't go back. I can forgive, but I cannot return to where I was. Not if I'm going to grow.

I know this is hard. It isn't any easier to write than it is to read. And I'm sorry. I never set out to cause pain. But some pain is unavoidable.

I miss you. I miss what you represented. I lost my love and my best friend.

But I knew when I started this that there was no going back. I took a moment to make sure, I told myself that this was what would happen before I took this step. I knew that what I was doing could not be undone.

I'm sorry for the loss of what was. I mourn it too.

And I will hope for both of us. That the road ahead finds us in better places.

I will be here for you always. As I would for any of my friends.

But more than that I cannot do.

I wish you my best."

Jun 28 - 12PM
helldweller
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moive heroes

My N and his two brothers were Superman, Iron man and Batman. The foster child was Spiderman. The poor, slave female "friend of the family" who calls them "my boys" made them all costumes to wear together. You can't f*cking make it up.
Jun 28 - 11PM (Reply to #40)
Lisa E. Scott
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LMAO

"My N and his two brothers were Superman, Iron man and Batman. The foster child was Spiderman. The poor, slave female "friend of the family" who calls them "my boys" made them all costumes to wear together. You can't f*cking make it up." ~helldweller OMG, I am laughing so hard right now. You're right, you cannot make that up! LOL
Jun 28 - 2PM (Reply to #39)
NinjaGirl
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I'm ashamed to say

That I made my ex two Jedi outfits. I guess it's like putting a dress on a pig, except pigs are actually cute.
Jun 28 - 7AM
baddream
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Fantasy Land

This came from the person he wanted to "be", not the person he is. I recognized so much of his language--- they all live in N-Land..
Jun 28 - 8AM (Reply to #37)
NinjaGirl
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Hmm

Can we bomb N-Land? It doesn't really sound like a redeemable place.
Jun 27 - 12PM
Steph
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What a load of shit!

lol. he did the best he could and maybe his road isn't meant for two and how difficult this has been for HIM and he is learning to grow blah blah. Reminds me of how my xN talks. Superior, takes NO responsibility, and rambles on and on about HIMSELF and how life is so unfair to him. Poor baby. And all the people he has "forgiven". Oh please. He thinks he is really something, doesn't he? lol Trust me. He doesn't feel bad about any hurt he has caused you. He loves it. Makes him feel important. Love how he contradicts himself too. Tells you you are beautiful and there was nothing wrong with you....yet, also says that he knows you will grow and become the person he knows you can be. The only area of "growth" that would ever benefit him is growing the parts of his brain he's missing and that'll never happen.... you are SO lucky to be rid of him. His email so arrogant it's comical. Who the hell does he think he is? lol
Jun 27 - 6PM (Reply to #32)
Lisa E. Scott
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Movie Characters

My EXHN, Andrew, loved movies. He was so taken by some movie characters that he would emulate their behavior or quote them constantly. The character from "American Psycho" played by Christian Bale, was one of his favorite characters to mimic or quote. (Scary, I know! This is when I FINALLY started getting honest with myself about him.) Quoting movie lines was a favorite pastime of his. Combining his sense of humor with his wit, he would often throw out movie lines in the middle of conversations. It would confuse some people, but those who understood the relevance found it hilarious. Anythiing to get attention, right? Andrew considered himself a writer and journaled and wrote quite a bit. He would share his writings with me and I saved them. He signed a waiver so I could include his poems and "thoughts" in my book. Here's one of them on the topic of movie characters: "I wholeheartedly relate to each character, in each movie. Therefore, if it is an action adventure, and some one-dimensional hero saves the day, I feel his strength and courage, his bravery under the threat of world catastrophe. If a drama, I feel like this victim, this wrongly accused man, this youth misunderstood and confused. But, more profoundly, I feel this connection in love stories, even if the romance is periphery to the story. I see myself as the good-looking leading man, who sweeps the girl off her feet, who charms her with his nodding wink, his glance. More to the point, I see myself as the great lover, the romancer, and the sexual satisfier. I want to be the guy who gets the girl at the end of the story, the man who wins her, who she cherishes. And not only that, but I want that romantic ending when all the players of fate come ready to play, when he says the right thing, when she accepts his apology and takes him back, when, yes, he gets the girl. When he smiles and she smiles—against her best judgment—and they ride off down the holy bond of matrimony. Unfortunately, what the movies usually fail to explore is what happens when Richard Gere in Pretty Woman gets the girl—the hooker— back at his place. What happens in the day to day, after the wedding, the honeymoon, the first house, the first car, what happens when the euphoria is over, and you are left with someone for the rest of your life. How do the movies explain what to do with the time remaining? Movies give me a glimpse. The problem is that movies give me a wholly unrealistic depiction of love, sex, marriage, children, and life together with someone supposedly so special and endearing that one is willing to spend the rest of one’s time on earth with this person."
Jun 27 - 6PM (Reply to #33)
NancyM
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Oh man that sums them up so

Oh man that sums them up so well. Mine was a lover of the super hero characters as well, and it was obvious how he really identified with them, he would be so puffed up when we left the cinema. But yeah, its the happily ever after they just don't get, so once NS is secured they just seem to go blank. Mine happened overnight. I had just left my job, home, family and followed him across the country, and suddenly...zippo.

Nevergoback

Jun 27 - 9PM (Reply to #34)
NinjaGirl
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OMG

My ex-N is the SAME WAY. He was always interjecting quotes into the middle of conversations, and unless you understood the inside joke, you were left confused and wondering what he was babbling about. And he LOVES super heroes! He especially identifies with Tony Stark (Ironman) because of how charismatic and smart and wonderful he is. I didn't ever have the heart to tell him he was NOTHING like Tony Stark. Although he was sort of a narcissist too.
Jun 28 - 2AM (Reply to #35)
NancyM
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Ironman

BINGO

Nevergoback

Jun 27 - 12PM (Reply to #30)
Janet
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Just have to chime in here

Just have to chime in here again. Near the end N wrote to me "I have great hope in my heart for you?" I was like, what does that even mean? Peace. J

Peace. J

Jun 28 - 11AM (Reply to #31)
NinjaGirl
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I think it means

That he hopes I don't get mad (I have), go to his house, and give him what's coming to him. I won't, even though I sort of wish I could. I think karma will get him back, so I have nothing more to do. He's such a jerk.
Jun 27 - 12PM
gingercat
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a walkin' thesaurus

My best friend (she is also stuck with a big 'N') and I have been comparing notes for years on the similarities between these men. We call our particular breed of Narcissist the 'Mortar Board' abusers. They think of themselves as profound writers and scholars (hence the name Mortar Board after the hats you wear at college graduation) and use their superior grammar to communicate with us mere mortals. One of their most effective methods of creating dissonance is to write things like you just received. What we have found out is that they really are nothing special, and so disordered they certainly can not truly succeed at anything. We think they channeled all their repressed deviance into word manipulation skills that are safe to hide behind. Mine carried around a copy of the book 'Drama of the Gifted Child' with him until well into his 40's. For all I know he still reads it! At first I thought it was something he had acquired through a class, or whatever, but then I realized it was 'his' story. He has always told me how misunderstood he was and not appreciated, no one supported him, etc. All I can tell you is, as the years progress, it gets worse. Now the 'I' statements pervade everything. Even when someone in my family is suffering a genuine crisis, medical for example, he will talk about himself. Maybe you should print the email and then ceremoniously burn it....
Jun 27 - 12PM (Reply to #28)
Steph
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"Even when someone in my

"Even when someone in my family is suffering a genuine crisis, medical for example, he will talk about himself" so funny you write that. My mom was on a pass from the hospital (on antibiotics for infection and awaiting pretty major surgery when infection cleared) and my grandpa had just finished radiation for Cancer...and we were at xN's for dinner. He NOT ONCE asked either of them how they were feeling. Instead rambled on and on about his new house, the new car he was getting, and his stressful job. He talked about himself so much I was actually embarrassed. I excused his lack of empathy because I thought maybe it was just a "guy thing". Even my grandpa, who is easygoing, apparently said something to my family afterwards about xN's arrogance. Found that out after. Oh, they are a special breed.
Jun 27 - 12PM (Reply to #27)
GIJ
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Superior grammar - King of the Monolouge

Agreed - my narc does this too. Writes to mere mortals all his observations about how life should be given his "observations" of what others do wrong and need to learn. And of course, he has all the answers and does know everything LOL! I have to laugh when he rationalizes his mistakes and turns them into reasons why he is failing. Can't own up to anything and spiritualizes things to his benefit. He can't handle any expression of emotion. It turns him inside out. And boils him in anger. Must be like nails on a chalk board to him. So he takes it upon himself to educate people how to deal with life from an emotionless point of view - because in his humble opinion, we are all stupid and he is god, "all knowing". The KING of the monologue!!
Jun 27 - 12PM (Reply to #26)
Susan32
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Mortar board abusers

So true, so true. You DEFINITELY have it down. My ex-P was in academia. He went to college where his father was a professor--it took him 7 years to get his Master's at University of Virginia (an unusually looong time),and 3 to get his Ph.D. at SUNY Buffalo. Basically, he spent 14 years in school before he became a professor. My ex-P always complained about being misunderstood, unappreciated, that people thought he was mean. His students didn't like him (his female students thought he was condescending);his colleagues shunned him. Philosophically, he's derivative. He can't come up with an original thought. He's good at regurgitating other people's ideas. I'd ALWAYS encourage him to be original, think for himself... THAT was a waste of time. When it comes to Ns/Ps dealing with criticism, he spent a footnote blasting two of his colleagues BY NAME for criticizing his original wording. What's odd was that of all my professors, I could NOT hold an intellectual discussion with my ex-P. It would be like talking to a brick wall. I couldn't even talk about philosophy with him, and he deemed himself a philosopher.
Jun 27 - 12PM
dysenchanted
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LMAO

Wow! I thought mine was the king of drama. This drivel gives new meaning to the term "grandiose ".
Jun 27 - 12PM
Scoop
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Mine would say "we need to

Mine would say "we need to readdress our boundrys " this he would troll out at d&d time .. he tryed that one on friday but he couldnt get it out before i told him to "shut the fuck up dont talk to me about boundrys you compleat prick " ... felt good ...
Jun 27 - 12PM (Reply to #23)
GIJ
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"We" do? good one Scoop

Love it when they need to take the authority position by treating people like the children that THEY are. Major red flag to notice in anyone. They have no capacity to allow people to be who they are because of their need to be in control and their insecurities and complete lack of self. STFP - love it! Way to go.
Jun 27 - 12PM (Reply to #21)
Allie
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Lol!

Way to go Scoop! Wish I could've seen his face when you said that :))
Jun 27 - 3PM (Reply to #22)
NinjaGirl
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LOL

Me too! The more I start thinking about things he did during our relationship, things I blew off at the time, the more I realize he's really just a dud. He never wanted to do anything I wanted to do. He would never go anywhere with me unless it was something he wanted to do. Yet I went to all social functions with him. We could only eat at restaurants he liked, and he always ordered the same thing every time. He quotes the Simpsons and movies and TV shows incessantly. He thought he was witty. Apparently he was just unoriginal. I can't believe these Ns in our lives think they're so great. Well, in my case I know it's because I indulged him, told him how great he was, etc. I wish I could go back to that first night I told him I liked him, when we then went and sat in his car, and he told me alllllll about his life and his ex-girlfriend and how good she looked in a bikini, and told him off right there.
Jun 27 - 11AM
GIJ
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I miss you. I miss what you represented? WTF

Can you say circular language? Coward comes to mind. This is all fluff. Agree with the others 100%. Arrogant, preachy, condescending, belittling and filled with bullsh$@t What a jackass. As Barbara would say, not human. Can't comprehend real relationships. Twisted and contorted. Sending you a hug. Thanks for posting this. It's important for people to see the truth about how they operate and realize any one of us could receive (and probably have) this type of communication.
Jun 27 - 10AM
Introspection
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Hello sweetheart...

to add to other posters' reaction to his email...notice that it is all about him; he used "I" throughout the email. Finally, he is letting you know to move on, that he is NEVER coming back so if I were you, I turn the lights off on this relationship and do just that. Don't go back to thinking of the fun times, how sweet he used to be, or how much you used to enjoy his company. Those times were a part of a fantasy that is created by them for each and every one of us. Your posting today I'm guessing was for us to give you feedback on whether it appears that he may be an N? If so, my answer is yes. More importantly, his email is lacking in love for you...this is now and today. He mentions that you are his friend, translation..."I can contact you anytime I want because you are my friend." I would send him one final email to let him know that you understand, will not contact him again and he should not contact you anymore. This will set the rules and bring that closure that you need to initiate the recovery and healing phase. The most important thing is that WE accept who they are and WE accept that they are not good for us. Once we accept this in our mind and heart, then the rest is just the "how to" clear your thoughts and return to life as you once knew it.
Jun 27 - 10AM (Reply to #17)
NinjaGirl
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Yes, you're right

I guess I did want to hear what other people thought. And all the responses are healing me in a way I didn't think would happen. I've been laughing at all these responses, and FINALLY realizing how lucky I am that I no longer with him. I'm genuinely smiling and laughing for the first time in a month and a half, and feeling like a load has been lifted. I worried so much about what others would think, and how his friends would all rally around him, and he'd be sooo happy, that I neglected what *I* thought and what makes *me* happy. I'm sure I'll have another downswing, but right now I really feel like I dodged a bullet with that loser. Pretty soon, I promise, I will stop posting so much about mine and start being more supportive of others. I just needed to get over the rawness of it and the confusion it caused me. Thank you, and EVERYONE, for being so kind and supportive. I don't think I've met more amazing women before in my life.
Jun 27 - 2PM (Reply to #18)
Lisa E. Scott
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Ninja

His e-mail is total b.s. and I'm so glad you realize you dodged a bullet. You really did and are so much better off without him now! Stay strong! xoxo
Jun 27 - 9AM
nhtmf
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Cue in the sappy violin

Cue in the sappy violin music and we'll be all set. I got the creeps just reading that..........
Jun 27 - 9AM (Reply to #14)
Allie
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the creepiest part for me...

was the part about how N is very forgiving...then goes on to list everyone (except the "unmemorable ones) that he forgives...creepy. Also that he wants Ninjagirl to become "what he saw in her"...yeah, because he is a god, and is all knowing of what she "should" be. I'll say it again, this could be my Narc. Except he doesn't write that well, lol.
Jun 27 - 10AM (Reply to #15)
NinjaGirl
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Your last line summed it up perfectly

When I had first read it, my thoughts were anguish and despair over how I had lost such a beautiful man. My friend read it a couple of times and said something like, "He is SUCH a narcissist! It's not a beautiful letter! He's trying to manipulate you into thinking he's this great guy so you can always be there for him." Even after my ex-N sent this letter, I sent him letters apologizing again for what I had done to him, and begging him to reconsider (yuck - I want to slap myself for that now) and asking him if this means there will never be another chance to start anew. He wrote back with, "There's always a chance, but it's very doubtful." Now I realize he was saying, "I'm going to try to find something better, but string you along in case it doesn't work out." But at the time, all I could see were the words, "There's always a chance" and kept asking him to just discuss things with me. The words he wrote that stopped me cold, and finally ceased all contact on my part, were when he wrote, "I know I miss having a girlfriend, but I'm not certain that you're the one I want." At that point, my pride kicked in, put me in a headlock, and said, "That's ENOUGH." And I haven't written him since. I still have moments of missing him and wondering if he's going to find his perfect love. And then I realize she's going to have to think HE's perfect, agree to only do what he wants, never start any arguments, be ok with him living with his mom in his 30's, be ok with his mom wanting to spend their alone time with her, be ok with his poutiness, be ok with his transgender tendencies and lack of wanting sex. Oh, but she has to be kick-ass like Uma Thurman in Kill Bill (his dream woman) and really confident. Oh, and she has to be perfectly fine with him not being terribly romantic, yet thinking he's Don Juan. I just can't imagine a woman like that.
Jun 27 - 9AM
Scoop
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Oh for the love of god ,

Oh for the love of god , what a pile of pants .Actualy reading this drivel reminded me of the countless hours i had to listern to my narc go on and on about how he is a great person but misundersttod , that poor me crap ,I I I me me me .Thank you for posting this as it so reminds me of my narcs rubbish , it heal so much to know i am not the only one , it helps to bring them right back down to size where they belong .
Jun 27 - 9AM
Allie
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Wow...

I am struck by his air of superiority in his email. Almost every sentence is spoken as if he is a god on a mountaintop speaking to the "little people" lol. He has that same contemptuous way of speaking of other people my N did, always saying how this man or that man didn't treat their wife or girlfriend well, and he knew better...he was always the victim when it suited him and the master of everything, always wanted to be my teacher or mentor, gag. Also the way your N never seems flustered, I don't know if thats the right word, but he is always in control of his words. I guess that is easy when N's don't have the emotion behind them. My N would speak of love in those words too. Never used the actual word often, but terms like "what we lost" or "our opportunity" or "what you represented" phrases like that were used to describe love or the relationship. It is eerie how the N's share so many of the same ways of operating down to a "T" I thank God for that, though, because it is like a manual for us normal, loving human beings :) Thanks for sharing this email. Stay strong, I think by telling him you were sorry, it is just another step in the right direction for you. I apologized also to my N for something that was his fault, something changed in him then, I think, and the D&D began in full. I guess I showed weakness, and it repelled him, but it also helped me to see how cold and callous a "human being" he was. Look at his email when your feeling a weak moment to remember the real him :)