Did he know he was a narcissist?

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#1 Jan 2 - 4PM
HardToBelieve
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Did he know he was a narcissist?

I know everyone including psychiatrists would say a narcissist is never aware of their disorder. But my ex-narc seemed very aware of his problems. Things he would often say to me was:

''We don't know each other so well and I really think you should get to know me better, you don't really know me even if you think you do''

''I have a dark side, a very ugly side. My attitude can get really bad sometimes and I really have to change''

''I've never hit a woman before but if you ever provoke me or hit me then I don't know what Im going to do to you, Im warning you''

''Are you sure you can put up with me? I'm very needy''

''I have a feeling you're going to leave me and give up on me''

''I'm so fed up with being in situations where girlfriend's families ask the girl to leave me because their families think I'm no good for them''

''If your family asked you to leave me because they thought I was no good for you, would you listen to them?''

Do you think he was aware that he was abusive/aggressive or that he knew he was a narcissist? I know he is never going to change but I wonder if he understood the depth of his problems.

Jan 2 - 7PM
HardToBelieve
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Yes yes yes!

I can relate to much to what all of you are saying! I also got to hear the pity-speech ''I'm not good enough for you. I'm out of your league. I wish I was more like you. I found what I was looking for in you.'' Ect.. So deep down they must know they are BAD people. It's disgusting how he warned me of things he would do to me if I cheated on him, left him, provoked him or hurt him. I guess I should be grateful that he warned me of those things.. But let's be honest here.. what makes them believe we think: ''Ah, yes. My dream man! He just warned me he would kill me if I did something to hurt him. What a man, I love him!'' No, all you think is: This man is INSANE... get out, run and never look back!!!
Jan 2 - 7PM
survivalist
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"I'm like the devil"

Yes, he said the exact following words: "I hate myself sometimes" "I wish I was a good person" "I am a horrible man" "I'm an asshole" "I am a bad person" "I hate myself for not being the man that you want me to be" He also said a previous girlfriend's family disliked him so much that they moved her out of state to get away from him. He also expressed a lot of frustration with the negative opinion my friends and family had of him. But he never expressed any interest in self-reflection or changing. So while I believe he knew these things to be true about himself, he didn't say them out loud for sincerity's sake. I agree with Hunter, it's a tool of manipulation. Had the relationship lasted, I'm sure he intended to cite these words down the road, planning for the "Don't say I didn't warn you" moment. I think the only thing worse than a narcissist is a narcissist with self-awareness. He actually said it best when he said "I'm like the devil". That's exactly it. The devil knows it's evil, but it doesn't care, it will never change, and will be evil until the end of time.
Jan 2 - 6PM
bgirl
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N said many of the things you

N said many of the things you have described and also things like, I don't deserve you, you are too good for me, I am weak, I am so angry at myself for being weak.... I reassured him...soothed him...this is what he wanted. In the end when I told him a few home truths...then I was 'a superior bitch who had no right to talk down to him.' So there you go...they know..but they put it in their arsenal of weapons to evoke reassurance and sympathy because people who are kind and empathetic are the ones they target... Go figure??
Jan 2 - 5PM
I_Dated_Satan
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This Narc corrected me..

I said to him once...I think you are narcissitic. Without hesitation he said ..." no, I am a realist". It gave me the creeps because the look on his face was as though he had already been told this MANY TIMES BEFORE. I believe he knows what and who he is. He told me early on...and I quote "I am a no good M f'er".....He didn't lie about that one!! When people tell you who they are believe them... and cross the street....!
Jan 2 - 5PM
onwithmylife
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hard tobeleive

my exnarc said to me once "I am crazy aren't I" and i was too polite to answer and he said also "You need to find someone else and I need to live by myself' but he would never admit it to me and i think to himself, he was too scared to, he always had to blame someone else, always...
Jan 2 - 4PM
Hunter
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When someone tells you who

When someone tells you who you they are listen.. Yes.. It's a manipulation tool as well.. Hunter
Jan 2 - 4PM
ruby01 (not verified)
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He

knows that he is manipulative and abusive.