Did all of that really happen? Or did I imagine it all?

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#1 Jul 8 - 7PM
reallyconfused
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Did all of that really happen? Or did I imagine it all?

I feel like I don't care anymore, nothing seems to matter whether it's him or my life. It's as if I'm going through the motions of every day without any passion behind anything. I get frazzled over the simple fact of having to do course work for college, the fact that my friends don't text me back...I manage to turn most things into something that is directly against me. For instance, they don't text back that means they're bored with me. I don't know how to get out of it and then I think of him...
I find myself just wanting to know the truth, I feel like I need to know that I mattered somehow, that there is some small piece of care in him for me. He hasn't tried to contact me since the other week, so that's good I guess. I did ignore him so either he got the message or he'll try again later. I feel like I don't matter to anyone because of him, I feel like a shadow walking through life.
I don't want him to have found someone else because I think that the other person would get everything I wanted from him--him to make more time for me and not blow me off.
I feel like I need closure, for him to tell me he's truly deeply sorry.Even if they're empty words...I want them. I don't know why.

What can I do when I'm still struggling with someone who I can't tell is a monster or not?

It's almost as if I sit here and think, "did all of that really happen or did i imagine it all?"

Jul 9 - 1PM
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Yes, an honest to God apology

Yes, an honest to God apology would be so healing for us. But we will never get it. As soon as the relationship terminated, so did you, in his eyes. Horrible, huh? To find out we never meant anything to them as human beings when they were just SO into us is perverse, upsetting. You lose a bit of your soul. It's like it was stolen. When I read posts like your's I want to go retrieve your soul, from the narcissist and preferably with a baseball bat! They are sick, true. They are also evil. The two are conjoined; the Siamese twins of soul destruction. You will heal...just know that. It gets better, much better. Hugs to you--ER
Jul 9 - 12PM
Scoop
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You express really well the

You express really well the feeling coming out of a psychopathic relationship , like a shaddow .. Im here and living proof that YES you do get over it and yes it will all make sence.And guess what in a while it realy wont matter that he never said sorry . Absolutly key to recovory is NO CONTACT and you did the complete right thing not picking up when he called . In a way you just have to take it on trust that nc works and believe the oldies here when we say it as in the begining it feels the hardest thing you have to do but it is the magic formular .... Hang in there , do the time and the reading and i promis that in a few months you will have you back .. Big love Scoop xx
Jul 9 - 9AM
Puzzle
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I can totally relate really

I can totally relate really confused...it is an awful feeling, words can't describe it, but have comfort knowing that we all know exactly what you are talking about. My friends are the same, so preoccupied with their lives, plus I don't think that they want anyone putting doubt into their minds about their relationships. Also, how easy is it for someone to say get over it. Really they are right, but we are human and it takes time. I think we are the type of people who mourn things to length, but other people are able to move on in a matter of weeks and be in love with someone else. It is like going through hell and back...but we aren't back from hell just yet. It is so easy to get stuck in a rut, I am really scared of movement that I have kind of ceased any change from occuring, and I now realise this is damaging. I think we are partially in denial. Some days I am so lonely and like a couple of other people have said here, alone in recovery that I want to run back to him. We know in our hearts that we are better off, but our minds allow us to get caught in the could have, should have, would have depressive cycle and it is really hard to get out of it. I found a website on making life changes helpful. It spoke about the victim mindset and empowering yourself to make changes. I realise the Narc filled a void for a lot of us, so what are we missing that makes us privy to these lost souls? We need to work out what we can do to heal that part of our lives that allows someone else to make us feel so shit. I think the only way to move out of this is to take the focus away from the Narc and what has passed...and put the spotlight on ourselves for a change. What do we want and need now we are no longer a slave to someone else's needs? Here is the link http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Davis36.html
Jul 9 - 9AM (Reply to #12)
reallyconfused
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I'm stuck

I know you're right, I should focus on myself and every day I try...more like baby steps at this point. But I can't get out of this place for some reason trying to figure out what the hell happened, was he really that bad? Did I make something out of nothing? It's hard for me to focus on myself when I can't fully grasp what has happened. It's like there's a huge gap that needs answers.
Jul 9 - 10AM (Reply to #13)
Puzzle
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I understand what you mean,

I understand what you mean, sometimes I too wonder if I imagined it all. Maybe write down all of the bad things he ever did, odd behaviour etc...and make a list of the nice things he did. I think the things you remember will shock you. I did this to get my head around whether or not he was as bad as I thought or if maybe I was the one with the problem. My good list consisted of about 10 nice things he did over 5 years. The bad list consisted of some things I had burried and forgotten about, like lying about things, telling me I was dumb as shit, making me feel alone when I was in a relationship, etc. etc. They don't have to be huge things, but they all add up. The bad list was enormous. I think it is normal for us to remember the good, but the good was few and far between...our minds probably don't have enough room to remember all the horrible things they did to us. It is so much easier to remember the good. I have probably read your story, but I have read so many awful stories on here. Can you tell me a bit about what happened? I spoke to a friend tonight who lives in another state, she was really helpful and said gain some perspective....step outside of yourself and look at him and your situation as if you were a stranger, what would you advise a friend to do in this situation? It is so easy to get caught in our head, over analysing things....feel helpless and unable to move forward. The more we freak out about feeling helpless the more insane we feel. We were abused, and a trait of that is that we question if maybe we made it all up, was life really that bad with them, is it necessary to be in so much pain missing them, than being in a different kind of pain staying with them? I sometimes feel like I too have made a mistake, my life seemed fine, my relationship was going well, it hadn't fizzled out...I didn't see it ending so abruptly. I have heard nothing from my ex and I understand why you want to know that they cared, because I do too.
Jul 9 - 11AM (Reply to #14)
reallyconfused
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A list is a good idea, I'll

A list is a good idea, I'll make sure to put that on my to-do list hah. I posted my story on my profile so if you have the time you can read all the details on there. I don't know how to give a condensed version, but I'll try... We met through the internet, I didn't like him at first and he pursued me and eventually I kind of fell for him. Basically him always too busy, making excuses why he couldn't see me that weekend. When I wanted to see where things were going he gave me the silent treatment for a month. Then when I said I didn't want to be treated as a convenience I got the silent treatment again. I think reading my story would be better, I can't summarize all of that lol. But don't feel obligated, it is pretty long. I just have to refocus my life and I get scared of possibly seeing him out in public. Ugh, I'm too stuck.
Jul 9 - 1AM
poshhunny
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i feel the EXACT same way

ReallyConfused...I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW...The disbelief, the replaying in your head, the overanalyzing, the numb feeling...I have it all...& I still want my closure too...problem with my situation is that this was a family friend who's always going to be in my life and so this situation got very sticky & tricky...but I know the feeling of going through the motions...I sometimes force myself to go out & I'm so numb & feel like my spirit is half dead that I can't even have drinks and get a buzz going & have fun with my friends when I really try to. Some days are easier than others...I just can't believe what happened- so I know- I think the same things- "Did this really happen? How? Why?"
Jul 8 - 8PM
veedoll
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It WILL Get Better

Been there also.. and the only thing to do is to talk, talk, talk to someone anyone who will listen and learn more about this troubled men. When you talk about how you are feeling to someone else, this somehow helps you to understand what you are experiencing. What you are experiencing are feelings of trying to make sense of something that makes no sense... and it is an awful feeling. It WILL Get better... hang it there.
Jul 8 - 8PM (Reply to #5)
reallyconfused
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The only place I can really

The only place I can really talk about it is on this forum because my friends aren't really there for me anymore and don't want me bringing him up...they just tell me to get over it. But how can I get over something where I don't know what I was dealing with this whole time?
Jul 8 - 9PM (Reply to #8)
bakingfortherapy
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Really confused

Be kind to yourself. Check out the forum, read books, info online. Knowledge is power right? Unfortunately even our very best friends may not understand what it's like to go throug a heartbreak w a N. It's not like a normal breakup, healthy, respectful with closure. With a N you never get closure bc it doesn't make logical sense. We wonder why and how? Know that you are not alone and it will get better.
Jul 9 - 9AM (Reply to #9)
reallyconfused
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Funny thing, we were never

Funny thing, we were never officially together to be able to break up. I don't know if he is an abuser. I still have days where I feel like he was right about me, that it was me that none of it worked out.
Jul 8 - 8PM (Reply to #6)
heritage
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RC

I understand what you mean about friends not wanting to hear it. Mine change the subject quickly, or they say nothing or they tell me to move forward. it really is true that no one understands this unledss you go through it. IIIIIt's not a norman relationship or break up. It wrecks havoc in our heads. I go to thefrapy once a week and talk her ear off. It's 45 min and goes like that. Then I am back to not discussing things for another week. So I am like you. I come here, I visit Sam Vaknin's site, it's all online therapy but it really does help. You can always go to a bookstore to get out and grab a book on NPD and hang out and read. I do that also. The recovery is lonely for me. It's me and my laptop. I would love to meet someone in my area and hang out so we can share stories.
Jul 8 - 8PM (Reply to #7)
reallyconfused
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I've also been just

I've also been just researching online...I'm almost too embarrassed to see a therapist. It'd be nice to have someone in the area as well, but the site is the next best thing.
Jul 8 - 7PM
Iamstrongerthanheis
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It will get better

I hear you, I have been where you are, some days are better than others, but the shadow feeling is the worst ever. The only thing that I have found to work is to be around people and get out of your head. Surround yourself with people who don't make you question yourself, friends, family who love you. In trying to make sense out of the senseless you are driving yourself crazy. It is not likely that he will acknowledge what he did or who he is, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen, what happened was very real. Your feelings are very real, you have every right to feel what you feel. If you haven't already, look up cognitive dissonance, it sounds like what you are experiencing. You will get through this!
Jul 8 - 8PM (Reply to #2)
reallyconfused
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Yeah, I just feel like there

Yeah, I just feel like there is no motivation behind anything I do. I do it for the sake of doing it, you know? I've had some disappointments in the relationship department before, but never anything this bad that I practically obsessed over just a month ago :/
Jul 9 - 12AM (Reply to #3)
Erali
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The way you feel is exactly

The way you feel is exactly how I felt for a while too. I think part of it is that they take so much of your energy that you only have enough to go through the motions. With time though, it comes back. The worst part is the fact that the memory of your vitality is there and so it feels like you are constantly reminded of what's missing. It's truly brutal, and when friends change the subject and tell you to get over it it just takes more energy to deal with the pain that can cause. This is a great place, and therapy is a good idea, if you get used to the idea. Therapy has become almost trendy, so feeling embarrassed could turn into being "cool" :)