Cognitive dissonance and obsessive thoughts

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#1 Sep 13 - 4AM
Scoop
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Cognitive dissonance and obsessive thoughts

Its cognitive dissonance that causes our obsessive thought , in short cognitive dissonance is where we hold onto two opposing ideas at the same time and thoses would be "he is good , he is bad" when we are dealing with a narc .
At the hight of my obssesive thoughts stage i thought i was going nuts , my brain wouldnt shut up and my thoughts where "but when he said that, that must have ment that, but wait, he did that so that cancils out that , but then he said that so that must mean that ...argggggg" and round and round the thoughts went for weeks . All it was was my brain having a normal reaction to trauma , i was essentially trying to make sense of the senseless , i was a normal person trying to understand a disordered person .
The good news is the thoughts go away with time , education and NO CONTACT . The six steps are there to guide you through this trauma and out the otherside to new live and love .The mantra for this week and beyond is "JOURNAL JOURNAL JOURNAL "

Heres more on cognitive dissonance.

"It’s very tough to accept the sad reality that the person who claimed to be your best friend or the love of your life is actually a backstabbing snake whose sole purpose in life is humiliating and dominating those around him. Rather than confront this reality, some victims go into denial entirely. They aren’t ready to accept any part of the truth, which, when suppressed, often surfaces in anxiety, projection and nightmares.

At some point, however, the evidence of a highly disturbed personality shows through, especially once the psychopath is no longer invested in a given victim and thus no longer makes a significant effort to keep his mask on. Then total denial is no longer possible. The floodgates of reality suddenly burst open and a whole slew of inconsistencies, downright lies, manipulations, criticism and emotional abuse flows through to the surface of our consciousness.

However, even then it’s difficult to absorb such painful information all at once. Our heart still yearns for what we have been persuaded, during the luring phase, was our one true love. Our minds are still filled with memories of the so-called good times with the psychopath. Yet, the truth about the infidelities, the constant deception, the manipulation and the backstabbing can no longer be denied. We can’t undo everything we learned about the psychopath; we cannot return to the point of original innocence, of total blindness. The result is a contradictory experience: a kind of internal battle between clinging to denial and accepting the truth.

Cognitive dissonance is a painful incredulity marked by this inner contradiction in the victim’s attitude towards the victimizer. In 1984, perhaps the best novel about brainwashing that occurs in totalitarian regimes, George Orwell coined his own term for this inner contradiction: he called it doublethink. Doublethink is not logical, but it is a common defense mechanism for coping with deception, domination and abuse. Victims engage in doublethink, or cognitive dissonance, in a partly subconscious attempt to reconcile the contradictory claims and behavior of the disordered individuals who have taken over their lives.

The denial itself can take several forms. It can manifest itself as the continuing idealization of the psychopath during the luring phase of the relationship or it can be shifting the blame for what went wrong in the relationship from him, the culprit, to ourselves, or to other victims. In fact, the easiest solution is to blame neither oneself nor the psychopath, but other victims. How often have you encountered the phenomenon where people who have partners who cheat on them lash out at the other women (or men) instead of holding their partners accountable for their actions? It’s far easier to blame someone you’re not emotionally invested in than someone you love, particularly if you still cling to that person or relationship.

Other victims project the blame back unto themselves. They accept the psychopath’s projection of blame and begin questioning themselves: what did I do wrong, to drive him away? What was lacking in me that he was so negative or unhappy in the relationship? Was I not smart enough, virtuous enough, hard-working enough, beautiful enough, sexy enough, attentive enough, submissive enough etc.

When one experiences cognitive dissonance, the rational knowledge about psychopathy doesn’t fully sink in on an emotional level. Consequently, the victim moves constantly back and forth between the idealized fantasy and the pathetic reality of the psychopath. This is a very confusing process and an emotionally draining one as well. Initially, when you’re the one being idealized by him, the fantasy is that a psychopath can love you and that he is committed to you and respects you. Then, once you’ve been devalued and/or discarded, the fantasy remains that he is capable of loving others, just not you. That you in particular weren’t right for him, but others can be. This is the fantasy that the psychopath tries to convince every victim once they enter the devalue phase. Psychopaths truly believe this because they never see anything wrong with themselves or their behavior, so if they’re no longer excited by a person, they conclude it must be her (or his) fault; that she (or he) is deficient.

Because you put up with emotional abuse from the psychopath you were with and recently been through the devaluation phase–in fact, for you it was long and drawn-out–you have absorbed this particular fantasy despite everything you know about psychopaths’ incapacity to love or even care about others. But with time and no contact, the rational knowledge and the emotional will merge, and this last bit of illusion about the psychopath will be dissolved.

Cognitive dissonance is part and parcel of being the victim of a personality disordered individual. It doesn’t occur in healthy relationships for several reasons:

1) healthy individuals may have good and bad parts of their personalities, but they don’t have a Jekyll and Hyde personality; a mask of sanity that hides an essentially malicious and destructive self. In a healthy relationship, there’s a certain transparency: basically, what you see is what you get. People are what they seem to be, flaws and all.

2) healthy relationships aren’t based on emotional abuse, domination and a mountain of deliberate lies and manipulation

3) healthy relationships don’t end abruptly, as if they never even happened because normal people can’t detach so quickly from deeper relationships

4) conversely, however, once healthy relationships end, both parties accept that and move on. There is no stalking and cyberstalking, which are the signs of a disordered person’s inability to detach from a dominance bond: a pathetic attempt at reassertion of power and control over a relationship that’s over for good

Cognitive dissonance happens in those cases where there’s an unbridgeable contradiction between a dire reality and an increasingly implausible fantasy which, once fully revealed, would be so painful to accept, that you’d rather cling to parts of the fantasy than confront that sad reality and move on.

Relatedly, cognitive dissonance is also a sign that the psychopath still has a form of power over you: that his distorted standards still have a place in your brain. That even though you may reject him on some level, on another his opinions still matter to you. Needless to say, they shouldn’t. He is a fraud; his opinions are distorted; his ties to others, even those he claims to “love,” just empty dominance bonds. Rationally, you already know that his opinions and those of his followers should have no place in your own mental landscape.

But if emotionally you still care about what he thinks or feels, then you are giving a disordered person too much power over you: another form of cognitive dissonance, perhaps the most dangerous. Cut those imaginary ties and cut the power chords that still tie you to a pathological person, his disordered supporters and their abnormal frame of reference. Nothing good will ever come out of allowing a psychopath and his pathological defenders any place in your heart or mind. The schism between their disordered perspective and your healthy one creates the inner tension that is also called cognitive dissonance. To eliminate this inner tension means to free yourself– body, heart and mind–from the psychopath, his followers and their opinions or standards. What they do, say, think or believe –and the silly mind games they choose to play–simply does not matter."

Big love Scoop xx

Sep 13 - 8AM
Jeff
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Thanks

Scoop for writing this post so I could read it today just as I was about to break NC. CD tricks me into thinking that his actions were normal and my reactions weren't. But this is NOT normal: "3) healthy relationships don’t end abruptly, as if they never even happened because normal people can’t detach so quickly from deeper relationships" He didnt even break up with me after two years. He missed the whole middle part and went in two days from calling me his only love to showing me pictures of him and his new boyfriend, saying he wasnt afraid to admit that he still needed me then leaving me alone in the cafe twice while he gushed over the phone to his new Bf. This is not normal behaviour, right? As i was already sufferng a year ago I kept my own journal before I ever came to this site. I force myself to reread it to remind myself just how long he had me running on this wheel. Amazing how much I had deliberately forgotten and how similar the entries are. What I wrote a year ago could have been last week. But it hurts to think the whole thing was a fake, a plot. Was he really so cunning and sly or just really shallow? But no normal human being can switch on and off like that. Thanks again Scoop for the wake up call. Jeff
Sep 13 - 9AM (Reply to #9)
Scoop
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Jeff , the fact that your

Jeff , the fact that your narc was on the phone to his new boyfriend while with you is not normal .. just to clarify NOT NORMAL , That the trouble with being with a disordered person the absurd becomes the norm . Keep up the NC and it will get clearer and clearer .. xx
Sep 13 - 7AM
Anabelle
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scoop

Thank you for this great post. It helps to understand that abrupt and brutal break up and his behavior.
Sep 13 - 7AM
Sea
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Brilliant post

I was in so much CD! My N has so much control over my mind! I am co dependent that makes my CD v v bad n torturing! I did that final show down with him 2 days back n i am in complete calm. For the first time since my first NC i get outa CD n have peace.
Sep 13 - 6AM
newbegginings
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***Crying***

OMG....I have cried quietly whilst reading this. All of what i have been feeling, enduring these last 10 months, has been explained just now. How can this be? Have I really gone through mental trauma, has this man, really done this to me? Does he even know what he is doing? Can he be that smart? How he hunted me and did all that idealising stuff and made my sad world at the time, seem so unbelievable.. How could this amzingly gorgeous man, be so interested in me...why is he paying sooo much attention...why is he always around? My god I gave him my number..now he is coming over...lots of talking...making me feel that we connected on some level...then we get to the NEXT level....and POOF...its all gone...instantly...he changes and I hear from him less....and less................and less...............................and less...and then he pops up again...and I take him however I can, cause I have been obsessing about him and why...what going on...he tells me this ...so thats why...he cant risk anything...we have sooo much time...many years ahead...and I believe...and then nothing again...but this time longer and longer bf contact. I am shattered that I have just read this post and totally seen myself sad, miserable self in it...ALL OF IT...I must do no contact, because he is using me...I am a something with a benefit..How can I have let this happen? I have a family who adores me, and I have let someone ruin it.....I wonder if N's girlfriend feels this too. Scoop thankyou so much for this read. I will continue on this forum, as it is helping me every day. I will need help, when he decides that he wants me again. xx timtam
Sep 13 - 7AM (Reply to #5)
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Timtam

Timtam, you have just said everything that I though while reading her post!!! Fabulous post Scoop!!!!!! Thank you!!
Sep 13 - 6AM
Marta
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I'm ready to go

I could go right now, but I have nowhere to go. I've learnt how to stop myself from feeling guilty and responsible for him and his life. I need to go, otherwise I'll go mad. I'm so ready, but I have to wait gather money etc. I've got a 9mo son and he is my main motivation. I want him to have a happy childhood full of huggs, kisses and smiles. How can I cope until I'm ready to go? I think he is suspecting something. I can't have sex with him and he is so insistent. He really makes me feel sick. Even my body is rejecting him, migraines, stomach pain and overall fatigue. Please tell me how to cope? PS. I can't go women's shelter I want be able to go to work if i did and i can't prove any domestic violence. Even if i could i wouldn't, bcos he'll loose his job and I woudn't get any maintenance for a very long time (and i need money for my little boy)
Sep 13 - 4AM
freaked
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Scoop, once again a brilliant

Scoop, once again a brilliant Post by you. I agree, CD is among the chief obstacles to our healing. Often I too find myself innundated with CD.. and those times I am back at this forum reading reading reading...and understanding and realising that I am dealing with a raving personality disordered narc. I know it will take some time to become cement strong in our psyche. Reading all the posts here truly is a great help. Hugs freaked:)
Sep 13 - 4AM
Jelickuk
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This is brilliant. I need to

This is brilliant. I need to remember it because without reminders I find it all too easy to sink back into denial. ty