Briseis it has happened.

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#1 Nov 16 - 8AM
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Briseis it has happened.

Just as I feared... after sharing with a friend here as you suggested. to keeps telling me he will see the light and come around. Fuck its so doubly annoying. To have broken the silence and not have people believe you.

So last week after his D & D he bought an enormous bouquest of Flowers and a sorry note, he arrived bearing these after an awful week. Since I had decided just to be fake to keep things on a manageable level till i could escape. I removed my emotions as much as I can
So then he started up again. So I took the flowers and threw them on the rubbish heap. It was a Sunday and he was around the house all day. they were on the dinning room table which you see 24/7. after about 8 hours he suddenly asked so what happened to the flowers( so unobservant) I said i threw them away... he cried. First time.
Ah crying over wasted money yes.
So I took pity and put them back.
On Monday my friend came around and of course the first and only thing she spied was those damn flowers. ( wish Id remebered to put them back on the rubbish heap=.
She said "you see he brought you flowers, he is a good man you are just exaggerating! dont be so negative, I have never had flowers from my husband"...
Oh God! I tried to say that flowers were no indicator of anything except guilt, but she went on and on about how I should just accept him and how lucky I was to get flowers.

Fuck.
In the end I said
"Do you know that right at this moment in time in this town there are woman in hospital and emergency having been battered by the men in their lives. And do you know what they all have in common? She looked at me through narrowed eyes.
What I bet they all have in common is that they have been given flowers by him and told by their friends you see its not so bad..

She didnt like that, but I said it.

OH man why didnt those flowers stay thrown away!

Nov 16 - 11AM
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yes I know :(

yes I know :(
Nov 16 - 10AM
Briseis
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Fooled

You need a serious friend transplant. A woman who narrows her eyes at you? That is called hostility. Who is willing to overlook the POSSIBILITY he is abusive because of a bouquet of flowers? If she is an example of "friendship" you have over there then I take it all back. Do NOT try and get support from people like this. They will only cause more damage than ever. And we on the Vain Forum aren't chopped liver :P . I know I have experienced the same kind of abuse that you have described in your posts. Probably many ladies here can relate as well. If this "friend" is any example of the community surrounding you where you live now, then you DOUBLY need to get the hell out of there.
Nov 16 - 8AM
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foolednolonger

keep the flowers as a reminder of how shallow FREINDS can be...a bunch of flowers says to this stupid NITWIT, that he is a good man....perhaps she should go to the cemetry and see all the flowers on the graves of the women who didnt make it.. on this forum there is a poem called gettings flowers.. maybe print it out and show her ,so she can "SEE", that all she has realy seen is top show.... i would also tell her to sod off.... but thats just me!!!
Nov 19 - 12PM (Reply to #2)
ShaynasMommy
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Yes

so would I, used. My supposed friend did a number on me too. I guess she couldn't believe what a shit he was until she moved in with him and he D&D'ed her too. She had the nerve to try to pretend nothing happened and that we could just pick up where we left off. So I get what everyone is saying about losing certain "friends" when the Narc relatinship is over. Absolutely EVERYTHING changes. Our relationships, our circle of friends, sometimes our jobs and the places we live, too. My whole existence changed, thanks to my newfound knowledge. This just goes to show that Narcs and the rest of us are from completely different worlds, and once we have been "educated" as to how people truly can be, for me it was like the veil lifted. I don't know how it feels for the ladies who grew up with abuse before they met their n/p, but I had never experienced abuse before then and the aftermath was like waking up from a rose-colored, tulip field dream to which I can never return. Its a better place to be in, but at the same time it sucks, as they say, ignorance is bliss.
Nov 20 - 7AM (Reply to #5)
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Amen

Amen
Nov 19 - 1PM (Reply to #3)
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Oh heck flowers mean nothing

Oh heck flowers mean nothing , its just like buying anything for a store like say chewing gum or washing powder . My narc got me flowers the second time he d&D me , he got off the train and walked into marks and spencers and came out with some roses gave them to me and expected a hug ... i wanted to not take them but what do you do ? i was brought up a nice girl and a nice girl dosent throw flowers on the ground and stamp on them dose she ?....LOL she would now ! I suspect youre friend is in a unhappy marrage herself so by saying youres isnt so bad keeps her in denile about her own life . Narrowing of eyes sujest there is more going on than meets the eye so to speak . xx
Nov 20 - 7AM (Reply to #4)
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Thanks for the perspective I

Thanks for the perspective I sent you a request to connect via mail or FB