BEWARE: The Narcissist and Patience

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#1 May 24 - 10AM
Free2bMe4582
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BEWARE: The Narcissist and Patience

Below is an excerpt from an article I came across:

Patience is greatest virtue a hunter has to possess in order to pounce upon and kill his prey. Any organism that has predatory skills has to cultivate the virtue of endurance and staying power until the right time is available. A clever, genuine Sociopath will wait years before he pounces on his victim in order to ensure that he does not make a mistake.

Do not underestimate the ability of the narcissist to be patient. He does not like to rush things. He wants to be entirely in control when the time comes. He does not want to be in a situation where he is vulnerable. He wants to know that all the cards will be on his side. He will play it cool until he knows that you are right where he wants you and then he will throw out his fishing line and reel you in for the feast that he has been planning for you.

Read more: http://healthmad.com/mental-health/the-narcissist-will-he-be-back-how-lo...

May 24 - 5PM
findingmeagain
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This is very true , it took

This is very true , it took my narc 2 years to swindle me back in (worst mistake of my life) i suspect i was the longest it ever took him to get supply. when my mind is set i usually don't bend he used alot of tactics with me. a bf i was with had died and this mf came flying down here i mean my bf probably was lukewarm in his grave and N shows up thinking i was vulnerable and easy to manipulate . his dumbazz just doesn't know how i am. ppl should never underestimate me when i'm a a weak point usually this is when i'm the strongest believe it or not. because i feel like i'm already hurting and i need to concentrate on my pain and this person needs to back up off me is my thoughts. N thought he was going to spend the night and sleep with me at my new apt. the one me and my bf had just been days later HELL NO! told N to get lost he said but i don't have any money for a hotel (he was living 500 miles away) i told him thats your problem noone told you to bring your azz down here. yes i told him just like that it pissed me off that he had no respect, i didn't care if he saw his daughter and spent time with her but there was no you and me in this at that time. N tried for two years to get me back he would call and check up on his daughter but really it was to check up on me. i remember the day he swindled me back in like it was yesterday. i was cooking dinner and he asked me what was i cooking i said t-bone steaks i guess that sounded way better than those microwave meals his current unknown gf cooked because after i told him that he was calling often and trying to get back with me . i called him corny and told i wasn't interested. he got pissed and hung up stopped calling for a few days and then he called with his gf on the phone lmaooo. told her all these lies about me told her that i was the one who wanted him to stay in my apt. i told her he never told me a thing about you i'm just finding out right now and he was the one who asked me to stay in my place. i even told her about when he came down here after my bf at that time had died. she said he told her about the death i said did he tell you how he wanted to stay in my place. she said no. smh oh yeah they are very patient. time is on their side so to speak.
May 24 - 6PM (Reply to #19)
mynewlife2011
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findingmeagain

LMAO I am actually chuckling out loud over this post.." i didn't care if he saw his daughter and spent time with her but there was no you and me in this at that time."...CLASSIC
May 24 - 1PM
Hunter
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Ladie

Slam that door shut and lock it with a dead bolt! Hunter
May 24 - 1PM (Reply to #17)
Ladydb123
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Hunter

I myself am a survivor from emotional/physical abuse in my life from many years ago. Now that I understand what a Narc is and my Ex-friend is one, believe me I will keep as far away as possible. I have no reason to contact him. I have blocked him on FB. He would have to come up with a humdinger to come to my home again or even call. I am truly forewarned......
May 24 - 11AM
Happy1
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OMG! This just scared the

OMG! This just scared the be-jesus out of me. I am always wondering about my narc returning months from now. I hate to think about it.
May 24 - 11AM (Reply to #15)
ewa
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"He wants to know that all

"He wants to know that all the cards will be on his side" , this is i think up to us :), so do not worry.
May 24 - 11AM
Ladydb123
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So True

I watched my Narc friend patiently pursue a lady he introduced me to for two whole years maybe longer until he put the final hook/noose around her neck. He dined her gave her gifts and money to help her with her grandkids that she is raising then proceeded to isolate her from her friends, family and a community organization she belonged to. It makes me sick and very angry that he has treated this woman this way and now she is fully under his power and control. I can imagine the hell he is putting her through.
May 24 - 1PM (Reply to #11)
SoaperGirl
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That's so Scary, it is what my narc was doing to me

I got saved ironically enough by cancer - and couldn't move in with him to complete his operation - I did end up being the one who got away. He's busy pulling the same shit on his new "perfect mate". More and more I am starting to be afraid that one day he may come back to finish the job. Great article at: http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/narcissist-victims-syndrome-survivors/discussions/messages/12110023 from: Relationship Time Cycle From Women Who Love Psychopaths, by Sandra Brown The Post Stage: A time period extending after the formal end of the relationship with her or with others. Those that the psychopath has broken up with are never off the speed dial and never out of the Relationship Circle even if he has not contacted them in years! Women in current relationships who find out about his affairs often feel that if he says he has stopped fooling around than he has stopped contact with others. While he may take a hiatus to try to win back one of the womens loyalty, no one ever really leaves a psychopaths life. Women have said they have heard from him out of the blue 6 months, 10 years LATER after the break up. He calls as if nothing has happened, says she popped into his mind and he wanted to check on her to tell her how much he always cared for her. Given both his boredom and excitement seeking, women must know that they, nor any other lover, ever really flies off his radar for long. Conclusion The relationships circle exemplifies the strategic targeting that psychopaths use of multiple relationships at one time. While woman #1 is basking in the hyper focus of his attention, he is trolling, in the middle of, and ending, multiple other relationships with men and women. His multiple relationships that are beginning, enduring, and ending no doubt play into her relationship dynamics with the psychopath. Of course, woman #1 is high on oxytocin and believes she just met her soulmate.
May 24 - 1PM (Reply to #12)
Used
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TIME

IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MUCH TIME ELAPSES WITH THESE NUTJOBS, THE POINT IS IF YOU DONT WANT TO GO BACK THEN NOTHING THE SAY OR DO SHOULD WORK.....I AM BEGINNING TO THINK TO MUCH CREDIT IS BEIGN GIVEN TO THEM ,I ALSO READ WOMEN WHO LOVE PYSCOPATHS AND I DIDNT AGREE WITH QUITE A BIT OF THAT EITHER.ITS ALSO BEEN SUGGEST ONCE OUT OF YOUR LIFE THEY NEVER THINK OF YOU AGAIN, WELL HOW CAN YOU WANT OR GET SOMEONE BACK YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE FORGOTTON, IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
May 24 - 6PM (Reply to #13)
mynewlife2011
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used Re:" HOW CAN YOU WANT OR GET SOMEONE BACK "

In my case, the formula for my ExNH is very simple. Like most Narcs, He uses people for whatever it is he needs at that time. It's not always about sex, or admiration. It has been about control, power, the almighty dollar, etc. During one of his sexcapades where he left me and the children for a Ho, I had filed court action against him. In the court action he was required to undergo alcohol abuse testing. I sincerely believe that he came back that time because he wanted to drop the court action, because he had and still has an alcohol abuse issue, and if the testing came back unfavorably for him it would have cost him in his military career. This is just one example of many. If I have control over an element of his life he cares about or needs, he will hoover and want back in just to regain control of the situation. On my end, I would take him back for one reason only - the children. I have always thought I had more control over the children staying married considering what he would expose the children to single(alcohol abuse, ho's rotating in and out etc.) It wasn't until i completely lost myself andwas losing my mind over his behavior, that I came to the conclusion that we are better off apart, because I am going to be no good to anyone if I continue down this road with Narc. Hopefully this makes sense.
May 24 - 1PM
Used
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understandin

if there are women on this board who,s predator never comes back , then this surely contradicts it self, he can wait years? for what?,some members have never been contacted again, and as for them coming back 2mnths 2years 20 years, everyone in my life who i have lost contact with ie, i moved ectect has eventually had contact with me again, they cant all be predators and i am definatly not, a few times i have read things that appear to contradict and its getting confusing
May 24 - 3PM (Reply to #4)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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25+ Years

My exN's new OW that he's going to marry before the year is out, is a recycled GF from over 25 years ago! Of course she has no idea what a nut-job he is or what she's dealing with, just as we didn't. She was only around 19 at the time and he was 24 and supposedly on one of his separations from his wife of 25 years at the time. I question that now just like everything. Maybe he was separated or maybe he was just cheating. They had grown up as kids, so the story goes, because their parents were good friends. And they were good friends until the relationship developed into something more when they got older. He broke it off with her to return to his wife and baby and do the "right" thing, but says he never wanted to end it with her, it was just the circumstances. Yeah, sure.
May 24 - 4PM (Reply to #9)
Ladydb123
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40+ Years

This is very interesting. I knew my narc friend from High School had no idea back then that he was disordered. We reconnected at our 40 yr Class Reunion (08). I have survived an emotionally abusive marriage so I have been very cautious about going that route again. He has never been married. This new #1OW probably knew him at sometime back in the day :-. She had just moved back to our home town fr NY when he introduced me to her a one of our classmates parties in (09). What struck me is how much she looked like me and she is only a few years younger than me. It's not my job to keep up with him, but has still hoovered with me. He has told me on a number of occassions that he wants to get married. As I have mentioned before he has groomed her to be under his power and control and may marry her after his son goes off to college in the fall. I will watch this maddness from far away. I do feel sorry for her because I know that he has dated two other women in the last three months. All I know is that her future doesn't look promising.........
May 24 - 3PM (Reply to #5)
Goldie
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WOW, great point

I never thought of it that way before. There are many on here who reconnected with their first loves and got the shaft. I can see now what you are saying about how the old supply has no clue how f/ed up they are now. They knew them when they were young newbies barely out of the gate with their true manipulative potential and then they go back years ago to find old supply who has no clue. Interesting perspective. They have burnt out all the current supply and the only ones who are not wise to them are the ones they knew when they were young. Hmmmm.... they leave no stone unturned, PATHETIC! They have no shame. God bless, Goldie
May 24 - 4PM (Reply to #6)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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And he was HER first love!

He told me that growing up together as kids she always had a crush on him and he was her "first." He said he broke her heart when he ended things to return to his wife and baby and that she ended up marrying the rebound guy after him. When she came back into his life in December, he described her at the time as an old friend of the family who had gotten in contact with his mom and his mom gave her his cell number. Who knows if that's how it really went down, everything he says is a lie and the story of their former relationship kept evolving to suit what he wanted and needed to believe: "I had forgotten that she is one of the women I had sex with (when he was trying to recall his number of past lovers). She wasn't even on the list, I wonder why I didn't remember her?" "I think I forgot about her because I cared about her and wanted to forget." "I don't think I ever really loved her, but I cared about her." "Actually, the more I think about it, I think I loved her." "No, I realize I DID love her, but pushed her from my mind so I could forget because it was too painful." "I was in love with her and didn't want things to end, but they had to because of circumstances." This is how the story evolved over several conversations. And now that I know how demented he is, reading this gives me some insight into how his crazy mind works and what he tells himself to rationalize things to fit his agenda.
May 24 - 7PM (Reply to #7)
mynewlife2011
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smitten kitten

OMG he is soooo royally F*cked up, those direct quotes over the same OW question really knocks it out of the field
May 24 - 8PM (Reply to #8)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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Right?

I've been having a rough time for the past week and feel like I've gone backwards in my recovery. I realized today that I think I'm still in shock or back in shock about what he really is. Like I'm still finding it hard to believe he's a f**kin' Psychopath! That this "nice, sweet" guy I knew in school is this monster! Never in my life did I think I would fall in love with someone like him and lose myself the way I did. I think I'm still coming to grips with that fact on different days and go all the way back to denial.
May 24 - 10AM
Kiwi2005
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Agree 100% I watched as narc

Agree 100% I watched as narc would not respond to a text from a girl of his past for days, even weeks and eventually he'd start up that conversation again... I pray for him that he's smart enough to never try that here with this girl =) They are very patient- Thankfully I'm the opposite, have been since I was little!
May 24 - 10AM
Goldie
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Free

Absolutely true. They never forget their supply, new or old. They bide their time. Creepy little buggers huh? God bless, Goldie