Becoming aware of your triggers and keeping NC!

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#1 Sep 21 - 8PM
Sunafterrain
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Becoming aware of your triggers and keeping NC!

So many posts today have me thinking about my NC. About the triggers I have had that send me reeling.

This isn't just about the disordered one. The triggers and the NC is about me.

I had to ask myself why I'm struggling with his phone calls within the last two/four weeks, that have abruptly stopped. My lack of response in answering the phone, as well as the abrupt stop of the calls is his SILENT TREATMENT, punishing my lack of response. When you think about how ridiculous it is, well, it's also really predictable. Never again will I say that he won't try to do something STOOOOOPID and unpredictable in playing these kinds of games. He played them during our entire relationshit, why would he stop NOW? I was a poison container investment for ten years and took all of his abusive shit. ALL OF IT. Well, no more of that....

So why did I feel so upset about it all? Well, not only is it intrusive to me, and anger provoking, it's also reminding me of loss. The loss of the fantasy. The dream. I took that to some depth today too. What is creating this crazy anxiety about wanting to hear from him, but not wanting too?

It's not about him. It's about feeling lonely. It's about being almost 48 years old and asking what I've done with my life except birth babies and sit in shitty relationshits with no career, no job skills. I've done NOTHING with my life, that furthered my personal growth, including employment. Yes, I've been going to school FOREVER and I'm almost done now. But I'm scared. Who the hell is going to hire a 48 year old woman whose just graduated from college and has no experience? I'm mourning, as well a bigger dream that has come and gone. I will never own a home. I will never have the happy family, husband, wife scenario, enjoying children and grandchildren. My dreams were pretty simple really, ones I never had as a child. I wanted what I never had, but was ill equipped with the tools of a healthy upbringing to make it happen. Instead what I've had is thirty years of abuse and PD's. No different from childhood.

I feel ugly, although I'm not. I feel frightened that I'm not intelligent enough to go out into the world and put into practice what I'm doing at school. I'm afraid of people now too. Not people I know, just fear authority figures in general, psychopaths. I don't know how I will handle that in the event, particularly if it involves my employment. My self esteem has really taken a nose dive after all of this.

I'm taking steps to move forward, but it's painfully slow. I'm seeing my vulnerabilities, and that's painful too. I'm owning how I got into these relationshits. I'm afraid to own the bad stuff of me. I'm not sure where the good stuff of me and the bad stuff of me begin and end, particularly with this last relationship.

I'm mourning the wasted years. Loving a man dearly only to realize that he wasn't at all what i believed him to be. He presented a fantasy to me of his home life, which only added to the confusion. One minute it was great and I couldn't figure out why he was with me, and the next it was an abusive hellhole where his wife was doing this or that and "hassling" him as he would say...

I wanted the fantasy he created when he said it was good. The evil was in the intent to let me know I would never have it. They truly do...know what you want, and they know it comes from a deep place. He reached into my spirit and my heart and pulled out my childhood dream and beat the shit out of it, nearly destroying me with it.

But I'm not destroyed. My dream has to change now. I'm not sure what it is going to be anymore. I have never felt so frightened with so much uncertainty. For the first time in my life, I'm alone. REALLY alone. No one can save me but me. I don't know how to do that, except just doing what I'm doing...moving slowly, making decisions..about new things and grieving the dream and now coming face to face with the darkness that is me too. It's the most painful, frightening part.

I wonder if all of this is part of the process....

Sep 22 - 2AM
dulcinea441
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God, your story strikes such

God, your story strikes such a chord in me. All of us are here because we were used and abused by Narcs. All of us are trying to figure out who we are, at our core. All of us are trying to understand how we could have allowed this to happen to us. On some level, we're ALL a little bit personality disordered, you know? No one gets through this life unscathed and we, the sensitive ones, suffer most of all. Myself, I know why I was such an easy victim of my narc: I fear abandonment more than anything. My own father was incredibly mentally abusive and kept me under his thumb while I was growing up. Then, when I was 13, he died of a heart attack. It was the ultimate "no closure" scenario. Instead of forgiving him, recognizing his pathetic flaws and the fact that he shouldn't have any influence over my self-worth, and instead of moving on, I held onto his fear-based brainwashing and let it affect all of my relationships with men -- whether younger or older -- through the course of my adult life. All of my lovers have been father figures to me in one way or another, and almost all of my relationships have ended in disaster because I am constantly reliving a deeply disordered paradigm. My Narc did a real number on me because he put me right back into the position of that little girl chasing after an elusive love. I think I remained in the relationship with him as long as I did because I wanted to prove to myself that I could make it work by sheer force of will. I never wanted to let another heart-based connection end in failure because that would confirm to me my own worthlessness. I thought that if I only held on just a little bit more, I could "win" at last. In the meantime, I overlooked all the areas of my life wherein I actually COULD win, by my own terms and not dependent on anyone else, in favor of chasing the impossible. At the end of the day, I know that, like my XN, I was deeply traumatized early in my life. Unlike him, though, my ability to love and feel compassion remain intact. We have to love and empathize with that hurt little girl inside of us. We have to honor ourselves enough to cherish our own human frailties and use our self-awareness of those failings and flaws as a catalyst for personal evolution and growth, because we CAN and WILL grow -- something our NX's can never sadly do. That's why we pity them, and that's why we instinctively know that we can have better than what they offered us. I think we have to forgive them and move on -- but first we have to forgive ourselves.
Sep 21 - 11PM
lillymarch
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I have thought the same exact

I have thought the same exact thing!! I love being pregnant, love giving birth, love little babies and love children. But what the heck is that good for!? I know it's an amazing life and experience and I wouldn't give up any of these children but I did all this within the confounds of a promise. He promised to never leave me. He promised that several times a year for almost 20 years. He lied. And now I'm left with years lost, stretch marks, and the new title of the dreaded: Single Mom. He talked me out of going back to school for years!! And now I'm looking at going to school as a single mom, 4 kids and a baby. WTF! At least we have each other Sunafterrain! And lets keep each other lifted up! We are beautiful! How could someone not love us? And really, I'm enjoying NOT having a man around. I do miss that certain male body part every once in awhile...but, I'll manage! : )
Sep 21 - 11PM (Reply to #9)
Sunafterrain
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Lily

Tweedle DEE and Tweedle DUM! I was married to my ex P hubby for 20 years, separated and then another ten years in disordered land. GOOD LORD we have so much in common! I wouldn't take mine back either, Lily, but there is so much I tossed out the window doing it! UGH! Yep, me too, male body part, but I can live without though. This is the first time since I was eighteen that I've been ALONE. Yep, we can be one another's wonder bras! LOL! I lift you up, you lift me up! And after six babies, um......well, I could use a lift! LOL!
Sep 21 - 10PM
rosedewittbukater
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Nothing?

nothing but birth babies? Being a mother is the hardest job in the world!! My entire life I only wanted two things...to be a wife and a mother (so far I'm 0 for 2)LOL Of all the things a woman can be called, I believe "Mom" is the greatest! Going back to school takes courage and determination! You obviously have both! You don't know that you will never have any of those things...a home, a healthy relationship, grandchildren! In my field I see people in their fifties and sixties starting second careers all the time! You CAN do it! You have survived, and you have to believe you can thrive! Keep hope! xx, Rose
Sep 21 - 11PM (Reply to #7)
Sunafterrain
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Rose

Thank you for your post! Funny....as I read it, I realized that my post is PROJECTION in a way....... I come from a pretty wealthy background. On my p father's side. It was drummed into my head that financial and social success is where it's at. At the time, I didn't feel this was right....there was never love from my P family. Ever. But I still feel the sting of being the "fam failure" because of that emphasis on status and wealth and having "things". And my recent ex just married a woman with lots of money so he can buy more "things". UGH! And really, I'm pretty "rich" already, because I raised great kids, have 2 beautiful grandchildren and one on the way. You really helped me shift my focus back to what is right with my life, rather than what's wrong. Damn it all with pathology. It's so frustrating. Thanks again, Rose.
Sep 21 - 9PM
Dema
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You are young

And you can experience everything. You have children and God willing you will have grandchildren. You need to find yourself and learn to love yourself. You have been an adult for 30 years. And in 30 years you should still be a living, breathing, productive adult. You have 30 years until you are likely to need to put up your feet and leave it to the younguns. 30 years. You need to find you before you find love again - but you can find love again. You need to learn that you do have skills and you can be productive. And yes, you most certainly can own your own home. There are special programs right now for single heads of family or something. My daughter just bought a wonderful, wonderful home all by herself with an $11/hr job and a very small amount of child support. And 3% down. And the seller paid closing costs. Rent would have been $800 a month and her house payment is $500 a month. And it is nicer in every way. And a better tax deduction. Yes, yes, your dreams are still attainable. You can, you can, you can. But first, you need to get well. And you need to know if you are codependent - and you need to learn how not to be. You need to be independent for a while. But, then, once you have found you - and learned to wear purple and angel's wings - you can do anything you like.
Sep 21 - 8PM
Winter
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Sunny, dear I feel your pain

What happen to you is the aftermath of the r/ship with a narc. I was astonished to what extent what you feel resonates with me. Well, maybe me a month ago. Yes it is a part of the process and here is why I think so: We have been D&D, brainwashed, each of us in her own way. Some overtly and aggressively, some more subtly. So, especially if it lasted for a long time, we lost our perception of ourselves as being worthy. So we keep this negative self talk inflicted by the narc. What I read in your post is a lot of self-judgement and self-devaluation. Giving birth and raising kids is not “nothing”. Being a loving a supportive person is not “nothing” either. No matter how successful you are in your professional, personal and social life, no matter how much property you possess, your inner negative after-narc self talk after is still the same. And it hit me when I was reading your post. Believe it or not, but me,41 y o, having a supporting and loving husband (on whom I cheated with the narc), being a professional and having my own house, I went through exactly the same devaluation of myself. I felt totally unworthy. I exclude from this the guilt I experience (that’s another story). Just to help you realize that having what you do not have does not change much... The relief is somewhere else... I don’t know where yet. I will keep you posted. Love Winter
Sep 21 - 11PM (Reply to #4)
Sunafterrain
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Winter

I really appreciate your perspective. Particularly you're last few sentences. There is a hangup for me with regards to monetary success and social status. I hate to admit that, but in the pathological environment I grew up in, this was VERY, VERY much emphasized as where it's at to be a success in life. According to my P family, I was not successful and none of them took interest in my life nor my children's lives. I really believe my father hated me for my sensitivities, as well as my N mother. He couldn't do it, but saw it in me and exploited it with rage and projections. I was a daddy's girl, and remember this as quite young. Then when he realized I was damanged goods (having been molested by my step P father for four years and living with my mother at the time), he literally threw me to the wolves. He could hardly stand to look at me and oddly, his evil gaze at me, reminds me much of my ex's too.... My P father and my ex are like twins. It's uncanny...
Sep 21 - 8PM
Pride and Shame
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Sun

This is profoundly self-aware. What a journey you are on. I am excited for you. Seriously. You are learning how to honor yourself. How to listen to yourself and make decisions that are right and good and honest for you, alone. No one's agenda but your own. No one but yourself to answer to. In my humble opinion, you are saying all the right things. You are mourning all the right things. Some things are no longer an option, but the grass is not always greener. You have the opportunity to create the life you want for yourself. Your spirit is so apparent!! There is darkness in all of us. It takes courage to explore that. I'm working on not being afraid to do that, too. Thanks for letting us be part of your process. XOXOX
Sep 21 - 11PM (Reply to #2)
Sunafterrain
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Pride

thank you. It is scary looking on the darker side. Kinda makes me responsible for my choices, and I guess, with all the abuse, I'm too angry to do that just yet, but I think it's coming soon and is probably the only way to get to the other side where there is light. HUGS