Are Some Narcissists Worse than Others?

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Are Some Narcissists Worse than Others?

by Kathy Krajco

I can see how the lay person falls for the notion that your garden variety narcissist or psychopath - who never commits a violent crime - is somehow not as sick as the one who does. But I am peeved at professionals for being so simplistic. It's their job to think a little better than that.

An example will show how flawed this notion is.

Let's take two narcissists. One happens to be the son of Saddam Hussein back in his heyday. The other happens to be the younger brother of an FBI agent.

These two predators live in very different environments. They have very different situations.

Saddam's son cannot be punished or retaliated against for anything he does. No one dares even look at him crosswise. When he says, "I want a woman in my torture chamber within the hour," a whole herd of people scramble to do his bidding. He is so powerful in his world that he doesn't even have to hide what he is. People see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil about him. Out of fear they bow and scrape to him. They glorify him for every detestable thing he does. He not only has no inhibitions, he actually is tempted to do violent crime for the sucking praise he'll be rewarded with for it.

Now compare him to the school teacher whose brother is an FBI agent. This teacher knows that if he starts hunting human prey and bringing victims to a torture chamber in his basement that his brother will notice things that make him suspicious. The neighbors might notice something. His colleagues at school might notice his inappropriate relationship with students. He is very vulnerable. No one would praise him for doing such things. Anyone would turn him into the police if they suspected him of doing such things. He'd be shamed for life in his world if anyone discovered that he was about such horrible things.

Now compare these two men. Which is sicker? We can't tell. One has inhibitions and the other doesn't. One can get away with murder and the other can't.

What if they switched places? Do you think that the FBI agent's brother, filling the shoes of Saddam's son, would be any different than Saddam's real son? Or vice versa?

Therefore, a narcissist's acting out could very well be a measure only of their FREEDOM TO ACT OUT, not a measure of how warped they are.

This part is just my own observation, but seeing is believing for me. More than once I have seen a narcissist's life circumstances change almost overnight, so that they suddenly could get away with much worse abuse. And guess what happened?

Bingo, it was like pushing a button on them. Overnight they began doing things that I'd have sworn the day before they were incapable of, shocking, odious things.

Which is why I am convinced that the only rein on a narcissist's behavior is what they think they can get away with. I'm not stating this as an authoritative opinion: it's my personal opinion. But my observations and thoughts have proven dead on so often that I now trust my instincts and will bet the farm that I'm right.

And I think it's time the professionals started investigating. I bet they will find that the only thing that one makes on N worse than another is his ability to get away with worse.

Because if you have no conscience, you have no conscience. And, just being afraid to have people think badly of you is not the same thing as having a real conscience.

What does this mean if it's true? It means that the N you live or work with now may become monster overnight someday when the situation changes.

A death in the family is an example of the type of thing that can can precipitate the event. It always results in a shake up of existing relationships and the balance of power. For example, many have observed that the death of a non-narcissistic parent often precipitates a coming-out of a narcissist. Though an adult, the narcissist still is that parent's child, so the non-narcissistic parent still had the old parental rein on the N child's conduct. But as soon as that parent is gone, the other children in the family had better look out.

This is why you shouldn't tempt fate. If someone is a malignant narcissist, he or she may be little threat to you today, but that can change. With a promotion, a death in the family, or any number of other everyday events.

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Nov 2 - 11PM
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are some Ns worse than others?

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Sep 4 - 2PM
Scoop
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This is so true and i have

This is so true and i have experience of it first hand , The first thing to happen was i lost my job and as if over night he changed with showing such lack of respect to me in his tone and his manor . I kind of let it slip under the radar until 2 weeks later my mum had some terrible news about her health and then the change was was something to be seen . I still pinch myself if that really happened . He kicked me out of his house that night telling me he didnt want a relationship and that he didnt love me .I went for him for comfort and i got dumped instead . He has rewriten history for our friends on this fact and in his mind this simply didnt happen. He knows it was a terrible thing to do not because it hurt me but because he would look bad infrount of people . Its so sad Peru x
Nov 3 - 4AM (Reply to #6)
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Peru

Peru, That was a terrible thing to happen, but especially typical of an N. I think if anyone is wondering if they have a "proper" N on their hands, then just wait for some sympathy or empathy from them when something horrible happens in your life. If he looks mystified as to why you would be expecting anything from him, or worse still does a runner, then you need not have any doubt. This is N'ism at its "finest". Rosy
Sep 4 - 4PM (Reply to #5)
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for perutoo

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Sep 3 - 10PM
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All vile

I believe they are all vile and capable of anything. Both N relationships I have been in got worse especially after their evilness was exposed to them. The first broke down quickly to extreme physical violence and I believe had I lived with the second it wouldn't have been long before that one reached the same plateau. I believe it has a lot to do with how much control they have over you and how vulnerable you are. This is why I believe they like to isolate their victims so there is no one to turn to. Most put up such a good front if you wanted to speak out against them not many would believe. There was a girl I knew in college married a really gorgeous guy. He seemed like the greatest guy, had a great job seemed like she had it made. When they broke up everyone was in shock. No one knew that every night she'd wait and watch out the window to see what shape he was in. Unknown to many he had a drinking problem and violent temper. She later admitted to hiding in the closet every night. I believe as soon as you realize what a person is even if they haven't been violent you should get out as quickly as possible. Once they are exposed for the vile creatures they are it quickly deteriorates and you need to be out of their line of fire.
Nov 3 - 4AM (Reply to #2)
Ellen
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I'm glad to have found this

Hi all, I like this post cos i always wondered how a man who was so sweet for 27 years became something very different. I believed in open expression to grow and non supression or control. My ex complained that his ex wife was so controlling he felt trapped......he could not even go out for a jog.........except that he was an overeater and didn't look like he wanted to go jogging but still he blamed her. Well it turned out that the freer and more understanding i was the worse his behaviour got. He has treated me worse in the two years i was with him than he took 20 years to do to his wife........but then i won't know that as i wasn't in his marriage. I did read a piece from a chapter that said a shy narcissist may act out in middle age,
Nov 3 - 5AM (Reply to #3)
Barbara (not verified)
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Ellen

I did read a piece from a chapter that said a shy narcissist may act out in middle age who said THAT tripe???? Narcs act out at ANY AGE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Abuse Information Site Online Coaching & Help