Sex and the NP

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May 7 - 9PM (Reply to #44)
HopeAgain
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Thank you all for your kind words

He said so many friggin sick things to me after the final d&d. When he was drunk one night he even put me on the phone with his new "girlfriend" and proceeded to tell me how AMAZING she was & 100 x better than me. I had "hairy nipples" ...lol. I smelled in places I won't even mention. I was too skinny for him. Yet, in the beginning my body was something he showed off to his friends and family & would convey all the compliments people said about my figure. Even that his brother said he wishes his girlfriend had my body & she had a GREAT body. It was the typical idealize & devalue bullshit. Guess I better go shave my nipples!! LMAO. At least I can laugh at the absurdity of it all now. I wonder when the OW's nipples will start to bother him????LMAO!
May 7 - 9PM (Reply to #45)
Veronrose
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Hope, my God!! You are RIGHT!

Hope, my God!! You are RIGHT! That is TOTAL devalue bullshit! I think you know that all this was to put you down and try to rip you of your self-esteem. I am so happy that you can laugh at it and realize that he was putting you down in order to make himself feel better. Forget about shaving your nipples, LOL, go shave his nipples OFF!!!!!
May 7 - 10PM (Reply to #46)
HopeAgain
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At the time all his insults

At the time all his insults hurt like hell...but I have clarity now. I see what he was doing and why. It wasn't enough to leave me an empty shell...no, no...he had to crush me, leave me for dead with no hope of being revived again. Problem is...he didn't know how strong I was. Apparently either did I.
May 7 - 9AM (Reply to #41)
SoaperGirl
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No, not the only one - most frustrating sex I ever had

My narc had major ED problems, and for the brief times we were together physically, he seemed to want it all the time - except he couldn't "bring it". Very frustrating. All in all, he was the worst piece of ass I ever had. Like most men, he could talk a good game. But,... It ended up being no sex at all!
May 7 - 4PM (Reply to #42)
findingmeagain
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LMAOOOOO!!!!!

OMG its been awhile that i've laughed this hard at a comment. Mines wasn't that good either I mean damn I don't know the last time I had an orgasm. I don't think I ever did. He was such a bang, bang, bang kind of guy..
May 6 - 7PM (Reply to #40)
Deidre40
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Hopeagain

OMG. I'm so sorry you had to hear those words. I sit and read these stories...and I think...would I tolerate that? But, I did tolerate abuse...almost the same. Different forms. Same end result. It's just weird how I can read a story here and say...omg, that poor woman! And then, I read my own stories and I think...omg, that poor woman! It's just sad to me, how we have so much in common with our situations. {{hugs}} I hope you never have to hear those horrible words in a relationship from someone you love ever again!!
May 6 - 6PM (Reply to #39)
Steph
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HopeAgain

You aren't alone. "withholding" is common with them and is a form of abuse. Mine would be all over me and very sexual....as long as HE initiated it.....if I initiated anything....he just wasn't "feeling sexual". It's a form of control. This comment of yours... "After the final d&d he said he held out on "fucking me" because I disgusted him so much and he had to "get drunk to fuck me"." That is absolutely horrible that he would say that and I hope you know now that it is COMPLETE BS. He wouldn't have been with you in the first place if he really felt that. What an aweful thing to say.....but he's abusive, so I guess it sounds about right. Sorry though that he said that....hope you are doing well with recovery:) xoxo
May 6 - 6PM (Reply to #37)
ifinallygotit
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withholding sex

We had a great sexual relationship and he wanted it every single time we were together for 10 years BUT, he would NEVER sleep together two nights in a row!! So in a way he withheld it by limiting it to only 3 or 4 times/month. I always thought this was weird because he liked sex but he would be repulsed if we had it too often as that would take away the fun game and new factor out of it...crazy after 10 years but true. I think we only slept together two consecutive nights twice when one of us had to go to the airport really early in the morning. On night number 2, he would switch from lover boy to a room mate and want no intimacy at all. he needed at least 5 days to regain his N separateness in order to be happy about being intimate again - this drove me nuts - being closer than close and then distant for no reason. I do not think it was because he was cheating. At least not the last 5 of the 10 years.. So we were never a normal couple, despite a normal sex life when he would allow it.
May 7 - 9AM (Reply to #38)
dabussard
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Withholding Sex

In the honeymoon stage, we had sex everyday, several times a day. But, towards the end he too withheld sex. It had to be on this terms. Like ifinallygotit, mine would not give it to me everyday. Usually every other day... But, it would be all nighters though... So, I figure he was just tired the next day and needed some sleep.lol... Mine always used to comeplain that he was sore after sex.. Yeah, he couldn't climax, so it went on for hours. I was sore too, i just complain about it all the time.
May 6 - 1PM
janine
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Narc in the mirror

I'm convinced that the sex they like best is the one they have with themselves. It's just nice to have a female body to get off on for stimulation. My ex loved doing it infront of a huge mirror and would glance at his beloved body adoringly. Just HIS body though mine is far prettier, LOL. It amused me so that in order not to spoil the mood I'd glance downwards. There'd be his big toe sticking out of the old chequered grandfather slippers. Isn't that sexy?
May 6 - 2PM (Reply to #35)
terri
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Janine

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe in yourself!
Terri

May 6 - 1PM
terri
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The exN was ALWAYS commenting

The exN was ALWAYS commenting on anal sex - always bringing it into the conversation as a joke and not something he seriously wanted. It was not an option for me at all. I have heard too many stories about how painful it is and had NO desire to experiment with that. Generally our sex life was really great. He would always comment afterward about how intense it was and that he had never had that level of intensity with any other woman. Now, after knowing what I know about narcs, I'm sure that was all a lie. I was married for twelve years before the narc relationship and my exH never requested anal. Is this something that most men want or is it weirdly common with narcs?

Believe in yourself!
Terri

May 5 - 9PM
TNR1
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Absolutely....

These guys don't care about what you want...it's all about fulfilling their kinky sexual desires. BTW...if you show interest in what they want, it doesn't make it nearly as fun for them. They want to feel as though they are pushing your boundaries.
May 5 - 5PM
Monica
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Mine wanted to do anal on me and wanted anal on HIM

First let me say, I am not a "prude." I am experimental in the bedroom....as long as there is respect, love and balance between "intimate" love making and the "kinky" stuff. One of the MANY things that killed my "relationship" with my xN is that there was no BALANCE. He wanted kinky but did not (would not/could not?) truly "make love" to me. I don't think he was able to keep an erection during "normal" love making. Anyway, he tried anal on my first. CLAIMED he had done it in the past and with his ex-wife. He was brutal. Had no idea how to "prepare" a woman for something like that. The first couple of times hurt. I did some research and told him we have to take our time and try different positions and go SLOW. He no longer wanted to even do it under those circumstances. (I believe now that he WANTED to hurt me in some way.) Then he asked for anal. We went out and bought him a strap on. (Okay, ladies, I know...TMI...but we are about honesty here, right?) He loved it, and loved being dominated. I thought that if I gave him what he wanted in this area he would eventually want to make love to me, be truly intimate. That never came to be. It stayed at the kinky stuff. I started making noise about intimacy and wanting to be made love to. I know realize, looking back, that he couldn't keep an erection with "normal" sex...only with the porn/kinky stuff and when he was pleasing himself. Then the D&D started. I left him and blocked him as soon as I realized what he was doing. I didn't even stick around for the final D&D. He has major Madonna-Whore Complex. I refused to be his whore. He begged me to remain his "most trusted friend." He said he had to talk with me about everything and run everything by me in his lie. I told him no way....UNLESS he were gay. If he were gay, I told him, we could be BFF. He denied this. But...I am not sure I believe him. He used to say to me, "You know what I am and still accept me." I started to think "gay." But he denies it. Bottom line (no pun intended)...if it is done right and in a loving environment, I had no problem with anal. But when the guy intentionally allows he girl to be hurt and in pain....that is just plain SICK.
May 7 - 9AM (Reply to #29)
wacaet
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Mine is a sex addict

When I discovered the extent of his problem, it was shocking. I knew, by the end, that he masturbated constantly, in fact I think it's the only way he can get off at this point. He was a member of a ton of porn sites and had at least 6 adult friend finder memberships. He talked me into skype sex, sending him revealing pics, etc. Things I wouldn't normally do. I became almost hyper sexual with him and thought I might be "manic". Now I realize it was a desire to please him and his manipulation. I'm back to "normal" now that he's out of my life. He also brought up anal and acted like it was MY idea. He said "you make me want to do things with you that I've never done with anyone before" which now I realize is a total load of crap.
May 7 - 5PM (Reply to #30)
Monica
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Wacaet....jerking off so much...it becomes the ONLY way

Mine was the same. He could only get off if he did it himself. Porn. Phone sex. Jerking off right in front of me. I think because they do it so often "normal" sex can no longer do it for them. Even bj's stopped working for him. Only his own hand would do it. I wonder if he will ever find a woman with whom he can have "normal" sex. He is the most disordered, sick person I have ever known personally. Maybe it is good that it took me 45 years to meet one!
May 8 - 12AM (Reply to #31)
wacaet
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seriously could be the same

seriously could be the same guy they are all so scarily alike
May 5 - 6PM (Reply to #27)
Caligirl
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Monica, our ExN's have much in common

OMG, at first I was thinking they could be the same guy lol. I'm like you, experimental, open to most things, but prefer a balance, respect, intimacy, love. My ExN liked giving and receiving anal. Fortunately, he was careful when giving, so not too many problems there. I did "reciprocate" a couple times, but due to our relationship issues, the sex also suffered (We never got around to buying an actual strap on). At first there was a little balance, but like your exN, I think he leaned more toward the kink stuff. I also think if I had done anal on him more, I would have had more power. He might have "post-poned" the d&d. I would not not have minded, but again balance is important to me, and he was really excited about being dominated (which did appeal to me and was probably one reason I stayed). I thought that was a sign that I would get the balance of respect and intimacy I craved. However, the fact that he seemed to want a dominatrix in bed all the time bothered me. I think he may have had a madonna-whore complex too, and I think he had been with this "style" woman a lot. Although I missed the intimacy, we never talked about any of this. No surprise, he liked to control the communication, and I didn't get the chance. The d&d started before that. I saw how cruel and hurtful he was and left.
May 7 - 11PM (Reply to #28)
TNR1
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My situation was similiar...

We never went with me giving anal to him, but he absolutely loved performing anal on me. Sigh. It's one of the many things that I miss.
May 5 - 5PM (Reply to #25)
Veronrose
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Monica, I 100% agree with

Monica, I 100% agree with you. If two consenting adults want to try kinky stuff, then absolutely, go for it. In a loving, trusting, mutually respectful and monogamous relationship, all that can be fun and can make them closer. However, once lines are crossed, and one of the participants is not comfortable, it should stop. Immediately.
May 5 - 7PM (Reply to #26)
Susan32
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1000% AGREE!!!!

I know the ex-Psych prof WANTED to have sex with me because I'm tomboyish... and believe me, I would've been kinky with him, or vanilla, if it was CONSENSUAL, LOVING, TRUSTING and RESPECTFUL. If the ex-P had treated me respectfully, I would've given him a one night stand... but he wasn't even worthy of THAT. The lack of respect drove me away. As I've told friends, I don't regret NOT having had sex with him. Sex would've made a bad situation worse. Like throwing gasoline on a fire.
May 5 - 1PM
Caligirl
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Daisyd

My exN had a kinky side too, and he would talk about his "fantasies/desires." I too had this need to please him that I never had before so strongly. Looking back I did feel vulnerable, not completely comfortable. I didn't trust him completely. Our sex life initially was very good, playful mixed with sweet/romantic. As time went on, I felt that he did not want to please me as much. I know I did not feel comfortable, because when I looked back, I held back in a way I never had with other relationships where I felt equal and respected. This was in my giving oral sex to him. I did, but not often and not very long. When he d&d'd me he attacked me by comparing me to his past encounters and criticized me on this. Ouch, that hurt. Though, he was talking aloud, and saying he could tell I knew "how" because of what I did do. He was right because like I said I did in the past and had many compliments. My exN was critical and the way he talked, I just didn't feel comfortable. That makes me sad for some reason. In the end, it was mechanical and more that he used me. He had started his d&d, and would break up with me repeatedly. He began to say degrading sexual remarks and with hold sexually. It still haunts me. I'm sorry you had this happen. It sounds like your h is supportive and that is good. I sometimes wonder if I will ever be able to have sex again after being so violated.
May 5 - 11AM
fooled no longer
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gracious me Dabussard thats

gracious me Dabussard thats horrendous! I call that rape and physical abuse. i would open a case especially dince you have bowel problems that can be proved.
May 5 - 11AM (Reply to #22)
dabussard
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Fooled no longer

He will pay someday! What goes around comes around. I hope some guy trys anal with him and lets him feel the pain that I felt and still feel..I must admit that I have flash backs, whenever I try to be initimate with my husband. I mean like totally freeze and totally stop making love to him and cry... (Happened just this week) My husband just holds me while I cry and tells me that we are gonna get thru it...My husband and I were separated at the time that I meet my Narc,but husband remained my friend and we are working on rebuilding a life together.
May 4 - 11AM
ifinallygotit
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No weirdness in bed

Sweet great manly yet gentle lover and never man handled me - always attracted to me, never ever impotent. I felt very loved and respected during sex - and no where else. He was cold and distant otherwise, except on dates (I guess public image kicked in). Often, when we hung out at his house I felt like a nuissance because he would be irritable with me like a big brother with his little sis hanging around pestering him - not a good feeling. Sorry for the weird sex stuff you suffered through. I did feel safe in this realm. This sounds weird but he was too uncommitted to ever ask anything weird of me, too passive - that would make him responsible for something! We made love more like sweet teenagers do, lots of kissing even after 10 years - he really did not have any mean or violent tendencies...just screwed up N. One time, early on many years ago, he hurt me by mistake - he felt really terrible about it and could not even talk about it. it was a clue to who he was that I missed. he could NOT handle doing anything that would appear to make him a bad guy...so I guess this is why he cannot face me today...sorry we all have to go through this stuff. I am really thankful that I did not have a bad sexual experience but I am so traumatized emotionally that I cannot think about having sex for a long time
May 6 - 7PM (Reply to #20)
Deidre40
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We only had sex a handful of

We only had sex a handful of times. I can relate more to what you're saying ifinallygotit. I would say however, he 'warned' me that our next get together (we had a LDR) he was going to 'time me.' Yes, you read that right. He was going to time me to see how many times I would climax. lol (that could be fun, just sayin) lol But, it was HOW he said it. It was very matter of fact...like he was going to time me running or something. lol He said...''you'll see, Dee.''
May 4 - 12PM
onwithmylife
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Daisyd

My Ex narc was the most normal man when it came to sex, very loving and kind, never hurt me at all,mine did not have that problem in terns of having to be in control to get an erection, but he is older and due to medication finally wound up with ED problems so we pleased each other in other ways. Near the end of the relationship, he kept mentioning anal sex and he put his fingers in my ass,sorry for being too graphic, which did not hurt, but I did not tell him I did not want anal sex.Since he had ED problems, he could not do it anyway, so we never got to that point, and he ran away after that anyway.
May 4 - 7AM
dabussard
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Yes

My N had a hard time reaching climix. Sex would go on for hours... We would both be exhausted. He would always complain of being sore the next day and we needed to try something else... The something else was anal sex.. I tried it with him twice... I could not take the pain, it hurt so bad... The first time we tried it... He just keep going and I was screaming in pain... Finally, he did stop.. He crawled off the bed and went into the bathroom... Then he went into the living room and sat in his chair. I was in so much pain that it took me like 15 minutes to get my clothes on and get off the bed. I went and tried to talk to him, he was in a fit of rage and would not talk. He just kept saying you need to leave, get out of my house!!! I bled for the rest of the day and I was in so much pain I could hardly sit down for about a week... My bowels have never been normal since... Talk about twisted!!! Wow...
May 6 - 7PM (Reply to #17)
Deidre40
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dabussard

OMG...why was he acting like that? I am so sorry you went through such abuse. These people are very disturbed, and sick. I don't imagine they would treat a pet the way they have treated us. It's mind boggling. {{hugs}} Praying none of us endure this again.
May 4 - 7AM (Reply to #2)
Daisyd
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OMG!!

Sweetheart I am so sorry for what you went through! That is so aweful I just want to give you a big hug and cry with you! I have an extreme reaction to physical pain and that is I get angry (much like the HULK). I'm afraid if that had been me I'd have found the strength to beat his face in!! I'm glad you didn't do that though. You would have been in jail getting all the blame because you would have been painted like you 'asked' for it. I hope you are well and never allow any man to do that to you again!! You have the power and the right! HUGS