I should be happy

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#1 Jun 30 - 6AM
sassyredhead
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I should be happy

Had an argument with NH last night, brought on because he was being way too rough with me sexually. I was afraid he was going to hurt me and I told him that. He said he had all this pent up passion for me, and he was sorry I didn’t like what he was doing. (I noticed that he said he was sorry that I DIDN’T LIKE WHAT HE WAS DOING and not that he was sorry he was so rough with me.) He also said it was my fault he was so rough with me. He then turned caring and asked me what I wanted sexually. Frankly, at that point, I was trying to regroup from the rough treatment; I wasn’t even in the mood to do anything at that point. This is coupled with the fact that it was nearly midnight and I am currently recovering from walking pneumonia. I had just started back to work on Monday, after being off due to the pneumonia too. Eventually, I asked him for what I wanted. He then proceeded to become “playful” with me and told me to just TAKE what I wanted. I told him that wasn’t my personality. I have respect and consideration for my partner and prefer to ASK for what I want instead of just doing something my partner may not like. He kept goading me, LITERALLY poking at me, so I tried to do what he asked. That wasn’t good enough though. He continued to goad me and tell me he was “being playful” with me. But as he was “being playful” he was saying things like, “Is this what I have to look forward to for the next 15 years?” and he was implying I was boring in the bedroom through other comments he made. Eventually, I just got ticked off and rolled on my side away from him. This is not the first time he has said things like that, which just wrecks my self-confidence. The things he says are especially hurtful because I have done everything he has EVER asked of me sexually, whether I agreed with it or not – I have bent my life inside out for him and went against my values for him. I have changed everything he has ever asked me to change. I have been coerced into doing things I was uncomfortable with too. Anyway, then he started going off about how I don’t meet his sexual needs and it escalated from there. He asked me whether I wanted him to leave, whether I wanted a divorce. When I started crying, he started with his usual BS and attempted to make every issue in our relationship my fault. He didn’t address any of the hurtful things he has said and done to me, and he changed the subject several times until I was almost dizzy.

Long story short, at the end of it all, he said I should make a decision about whether or not we get a divorce. He just foisted the decision on me. He refused to say what his thoughts were on the matter other than “I don’t know.” I SHOULD be happy. I have wanted a divorce for a while. Between the constant criticism, moodiness and mean comments he dishes out, as well as his porn addiction (for which he shows absolutely no remorse or willingness to change), I have felt trapped and hopeless. But since he has put this enormous decision on my shoulders, I am now having doubts about everything, wondering if I have been too hard on him – but at the same time, I can’t live like this. I can’t continue to cater to him sexually. It’s never enough, no matter what I do. I can’t continue to change for him. I am exhausted. I have lost myself; I am so focused on trying to make HIM happy.

I think I am going to move forward with the divorce. I don’t know how to pick up the pieces of myself though. I don’t know who I am – I have been with NH for over half my life (I6.5 years). I have never been on my own. I don’t even know where to start. Getting a lawyer and filing the paperwork, I don’t think will be difficult, since Barbara was kind enough to provide the Board with plenty of resources. It’s what happens next – dealing with the emotional fallout, struggling with self-doubts (is he an N, isn’t he an N – I mean, I feel like there’s proof he is with the lack of empathy, blame shifting, constant criticism, manipulation, erosion of my self-confidence, my inability to confront him about anything…), trying to explain things to my daughter and my family…

What do you ladies think? How did you pick up the pieces of your life and move forward? How do you discover who you are when you have been trying to be someone else for your N for so long? How do you explain things to your child(ren)? How do you deal with the doubts and remembrance of the good times with the N? How do you recover from the experience – how do you ever trust a man again?

Jul 1 - 9AM
sassyredhead
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This is Ridiculous!

Last evening, NH said, "I made the decision that I don't want to leave; I want to stick around for a while. I didn't want to leave anyway; I just wanted to see what your reaction would be." He also said, "Let's make an agreement that we don't argue after we have had a couple of drinks. Let's have sex instead and discuss things after we're sober." WTF!? First of all - he put the decision on me about the divorce! I have made my decision and it isn't to have him around! Second, how sick does someone have to be to test someone for their reaction? Third, how he can blame the entire argument on alcohol? I only had one drink; I don't know how many he had. But it's such a cop-out. It takes BALLS to say what he did!
Jul 1 - 4PM (Reply to #12)
quietude (not verified)
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sassyred

You should say...oh no, it was actually and EXCELLENT suggestion, and I'm glad you made it! Not really...better not engage him, but boy, I'd be tempted to say something like that. He's typical, predictable, now it's time to protect yourself, your assets, your future and just disengage from the dork.
Jul 1 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
better off
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I told you he was just

I told you he was just saying shit when he gave you that load of crap about it being your decision. Now he's saying more shit that is another load of crap in the opposite direction, in a total crazy-making Alice in Wonderland turn-around, saying HE'S made a decision. He's not doing anything but talking shit.
Jul 1 - 10AM (Reply to #10)
Barbara (not verified)
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sassyredhead

It's not Balls - its PATHOLOGY. how can he...? he's PATHOLOGICALLY DISORDERED. You can NOT judge these men by normal rules. GET OUT. That's what this is telling you. Get out now. I have put a number of links for divorce resources on the Message Board. Use them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
Jun 30 - 2PM
Lisa E. Scott
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SassyRedHead

Oh, please get out now. You can do it. This man treats you as nothing more than an object that he thinks he owns. I'm so sorry to hear what happened, but hopefully it will make you realize you deserve so much better in life. There is no reason you should have to live like this anymore. You are scared because it's all you know, but doesn't anything but this treatment from him sound better! It takes time, but you can do it. Like Barbara said, one day at a time. We are all here for you and will support you as you take steps to re-create your life. Believe me, you will be happy you did. We have one life to live. This is not a dress rehearsal. This is it! Carpe Diem! Cease the day and live your life now, not someday. Someday will never come unless you make it happen. Stay strong. Big Hugs, Lisa
Jun 30 - 1PM
sassyredhead
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Concert Now?

Thank you, quietude, worndown and Barbara. I am so grateful for the support!!! :) I gotta tell ya this - NH is now asking me if I want to go to a concert with him in August! This comes literally 12 hours after asking me to make the decision to divorce him! I am REALLY confused. This makes no sense! What is this? Is this Hoovering already or what?
Jun 30 - 2PM (Reply to #7)
better off
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My guess is that he's just

My guess is that he's just saying shit. "Asking you to make the decision" to divorce is just a tactic to keep you off balance and put a load of anxiety on you. 50 bucks says he didn't mean that, if you filed for divorce he'd be friggin SHOCKED. My NH has even admitted that he says things like that to "make the conversation be over." Nothing he says means anything. So why not be talking about a concert? That big argument you had probably doesn't even enter his head while you're spinning in circles over it. They always act like "the past" didn't happen, even it was five minutes ago.
Jun 30 - 2PM (Reply to #5)
quietude (not verified)
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sassyred

My guess is yes...make up prizes given to us by our abusers, as if that's going to make up for the horrendous treatment.
Jun 30 - 4PM (Reply to #6)
Barbara (not verified)
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sassy

its a hoover it's part of the cycle of abuse - intermittent kindness along with cruelty and abuse. Therapy, meds, keep reading and RUN RUN RUN SCREAMIN' FROM THIS MAN! NO CONTACT!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
Jun 30 - 9AM
quietude (not verified)
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you should?

You should be happy? Why, you live with a controlling, manipulating BULLY! See how they manipulate the conversation...the blame, the guilt and shame they have no issue loading right onto you? It's all BS, I know it's hard, but you must start looking at everything he says has nothing to do with reality much less a healthy relationship. You said it yourself, he came at you so fast and furious with the talk, that it makes you dizzy...bingo! He did his job, made himself look like the victim, and made you question yourself. That's all it is with them. If they win, all is well. No thought about your feelings whatsoever. Intimidating you...'do you want me to leave?'...threatening 'security'...hon, mine did this almost every time we had a big fight! Wow, what a jerk! re: some of your questions ~ When you're with them, it's hard to see it's possible to 'move forward', but it is. For me, it's been babysteps. Yes, it hurts. It was very tough the first month. It was an out of body experience...but I kept distracting myself and did whatever I could to not dwell on him enough to actually answer him. Rediscovering who you are comes with time, practice, and lots of self-care. You have to release the blame and guilt they put on you. A therapist can help with that. You need a lot of validation, and I think it's also important to surround yourself with people who understand what you've been through...unfortunately, friends and family..even well-meaning may say things that make you feel worse...'i.e. why did you stay with him, just move on'..bad stuff. As far as kids, I didn't have kids with mine, but there are lots of women here who did who can help you with that One way to deal with doubts is to JOURNAL, keep a fresh reminder around of the pain he put you through. Hard to read, I know, but it's important for you to REMEMBER why you're not with him. Recovery - you're exactly right, that's what it is. Time, practice, support, self-care...as much as you need to start feeling better. Pretty soon self-care and knowing what red-flags to spot in people will be habit. Trust, I am working on trusting myself, my gut, my instincts, and listening to them. Then maybe one day I can trust someone else again. It's good that you're thinking in these terms, you are not denying there is a big problem here and you want it to change...good for you!
Jun 30 - 8AM
Worndown (not verified)
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He is an N

Sassy, I just keep saying to myself "I AM WAY BETTER THAN THIS, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS ABOUT TO LOSE, HOW DARE HE TREAT ME LIKE THIS!!!! LOOK HOW MUCH TIME I'VE WASTED WITH THIS PERSON, I AM OUTTTTTA HERE!!!!! And then do the snap, snap, snap in the air with your fingers. That is the frame of mind I try to stay in when I start getting doubtful. Truly he has wasted alot of my time, or "our time" when we could have progressed as a loving couple with encouragement and support for each other, instead you've got an n dragging us down and belittling us as though we were the enemy. I have heard things come out my n's mouth that I would never say to another human being. NEVER!! WE DON'T DESERVE THIS KIND OF TREATMENT! So join me, snap, snap, snap!!!! I'm OUTTA HERE!!!! :)
Jun 30 - 10AM (Reply to #2)
Barbara (not verified)
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sassyredhead

keep reading. Many many of us have picked up the pieces and moved forward. ONE DAY, ONE MINUTE AT A TIME. And over time it does get easier. Please file for divorce and get rid of this vampire before he really harms you. You are just an object to him - something to masturbate with and to serve him. Blech! It's time for him or you to move out. Talk to a couple lawyers THIS WEEK and start getting your ducks in a row. You deserve better and its out there waiting for you. It will take time to get over him but your sanity with thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/