Y'all I'm a crack addict and I need some words....

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#1 Jan 27 - 10PM
loveofmylife
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Y'all I'm a crack addict and I need some words....

My name is loveofmylife and I'm a crack addict. And i have been a crack addict for 24 years now....

I've been NC for 6 months now; since 7/5/10 or so when the final D&D happened ; which was the ugliest exchange of verbal communication (if you can call it that ) that I have had in my life, by far.

So many ugly things that the Narc said to me.... completely destroyed me....and all triggered because I turned him down on a work opportunity and injured his little narc ego.

Well, last week, I was invited to an event by my banker - an intimate little dinner at a beautiful winery in CA.... I wasn't sure if I could go as I had to take my son to the doctor. But the vp of the bank said "you just have to go - there will be people there you are close to!". Well, I kind of had a feeling of who he was talking about, since Narc and I were business partners with this bank - but wasn't quite sure - since Narc doesn't attend these kinds of things and he lives 1 1/2 hours from the winery.

So I went. And as soon as I pulled in - narc was standing there staring at me and waiting for me at the entrance. I get out and he is waiting for me at the entrance - for a long time. But then when I get closer - I'm pretty sure he pretends he gets a phone call and takes it out front. You all know the routine - the "i have something better to do than to talk to you routine" the "someone more importnat has called me on the phone routine - see how important i am?????" Anyway - I'm sure he pretending it, I made brief eye contact, he smiled at me and I walked inside. Got myself a wine and kept myself busy talking to other people (one of those events where there are 3 women and 40 men). After about 5 - 10 minutes, he comes in and walks through about 40 people to the back of the room right away and gives me a HUGE HUG AND SMILE and said "we really need to talk - can we go outside - it is a BEAUTIFUL NIGHT!? Please, let's go outside!" Turned to everyone else in my group and said "we really have alot to catch up on - please excuse us!" and then hurried me outside (narc and I have always spent alot of time outside in beautiful environments - we love it so much) And it WAS beautiful. A winery in CA, beautiful weather - in the hills - gorgeous architecture and gardens....totally romantic and all I wanted to do was to be with him. So we talked and talked...he was smiling, flirting, laughing...after 6 months of NC....like nothing ever happened. Like he hadn't said the most hateful things any human could say to any other human. As gorgeous as can be, unbelievable.... and I just wanted to be with him....with everything i've learned on this forum and although I know what he is.....the charm was just unreal. We talked for a very long time...just catching up on business, personal, everything that has happened to us in the last 6 months - like nothing has ever happened - like no horrible D&D had ever happened.

We went inside, and then when it came time to sit down - I sat down first - alone and he sat next to me.... and 1/2 way through dinner after lots of talking, laughing and flirting, he told me that he would "be my servant and get my wine or whatever else I wanted" - oh my god and could my mind think of things. He got me a wine - flirted some more...and then when it came time to leave - I was so hoping he would walk me to my car to have THE TALK about WHAT IN THE HELL HAPPENED IN THAT FINAL D&D AND WHAT DID OUR RELATIONSHIP REALLY MEAN? But of course, that didn't happen = we went our own ways - i know he is seeing someone who is sure to be "the one" (ha)

Dang - why do they seem so good - when we know that deep down they are so bad? How can they pull it off soooooo well? Why are they so convincing that they are the nicest, sweetest, most charming guy in the world when deep down we know how manipulative and messed up they are? how could he charm everyone at that dinner and be like the most popular person that everyone wanted to talk to and everyone wanted to spend time with? Why can't people see through this?

I guess I know the answers. They are master charmers and master abusers/manipulators. He wanted something from me tonight - he wanted it to look like we were still super close so that everyone at that dinner would look favorably on him and give him work in the future. He wanted me to be in love with him again, because it makes him feel good and important and happy - not that he would love me back. They have perfected the art of charming; and most people can't see it in a brief interaction...unfortunately, they only show their true self with those they are closest too - and I was one of the "lucky ones".

But damn...most of all...WHY WASN'T IT REAL????? UGHHH. My heart starting racing when I saw him...I could hardly breath - I am SO unbelievably attracted to him - it is pure crazyiness. after 24 years, he still does that to me every single time I see him. Even if I see him every hour, every day for two years. Yes, I am an addict.

As soon as I got in my car I texted "it was so nice to c u tonight!" and of course, I didn't get a response and probably never will. He won.....again...

Sorry this is so long.... just part of the healing process, I guess, and would love to hear from my sisters who have experienced the same heartbreak by a fictional man.

Feb 18 - 12AM
gettinbetter
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and you can do it right back!

and you can do it right back! Only you have facts to back it up. He doesnt
Feb 17 - 11PM
loveofmylife
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How can they have absolutely no regard for the feelings of other

Just posted this under another post.... but I just found out why Narc arranged for us to both be at this dinner at the winery a few weeks ago and why he pulled me outside to enjoy the "beautiful night" with him and flirt all night long! Just after that night, after 6 months of not contacting me (other than to ask me to do something for him) or the owner of my company.... he contacted the owner of the company to ask him for a reference...ugh.. So I guess he sensed that he didn't quite win me over that night like he had hoped... so he called the owner to give him a reference. The owner who he trashed behind his back on a daily basis, and called "the stupidest, most incompetent business owner I've ever known". (and worse) They know no loyalty other than themselves. So, once again, he acts like he is interested in me and flirts with me in a major way (e.g I'll be your servant tonight and get you wine or whatever else you want. wink wink), just as a manipulation... BECAUSE HE NEEDED A JOB REFERENCE! The bastard. I still can't figure out if he is consciously planning to manipulate me and thus planned the whole night that way, or if he knew he needed something from me and wanted to see me.. I guess it doesn't matter. The end result is the same...he pretends like he truly cares for me, when all he wanted was what he wanted out of me. Our relationship is ALWAYS on his terms.
Jan 29 - 12AM
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it happens i feel many of us

it happens i feel many of us have gone back for round 2 or 3 or 4....but at somepoint you hit a brick wall bc you realize its the same thing....and you did REALIZE that at the end of the night when he didnt text you. so give yourself credit. Now at the same time, if you realize youre a addict, you just have to get help. Dont go to events where he is at. If youre there, make a friend stay by your side all night, write a note to self. I know its hard when you dont see them all the time being a ass, its easy to get swept up and think he is a reformed person...but that will never happen, you know that deep down. You just have to train yourself so you have that thought as soon as anything comes up with him. the fact that he completely dismissed what happened is so indicative he is out of touch with reality and thinks of you like his possession or extension. I think the sexual chemistry makes it hard on you and i know all about that. you have no idea how many times i ended up in bed without the conversation of what happened. I will always be attracted to him, and thats why its better to not be around drugs at all if youre a recovering addict!
Feb 18 - 12AM (Reply to #45)
gettinbetter
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The Next time he comes

The Next time he comes hoovering you stop him dead in his tracks and say "Narc I dont know if your implying that we had romantic relationship and I dont want to hurt you feelings but we didnt. Im sorry if you thought it was something other than friendship but it just wasnt for me" THAT WOULD COMPLETELY INVALIDATE HIM. TRUST ME THAT WOULD GET TO HIM! Then subtly insinuate to all of your mutual professional contacts that he not that great. You know say it without saying it. You are well respected and have alot of credibility and the fact of the matter is you are telling the truth. You have the power loveofmylife and he knows it. USE IT but make sure he cant trace it back to you. Just plant the seed amongst you professional contacts. They will water all by themselves the just walk away. Remember NLP programming. You can say it without saying it to your mutual professional contacts. That way you could always say N I dont know what you are talking about. I have never said any such thing and you would be telling the truth. You just have to plant the seed people will grow it and water it for you. :)))
Feb 18 - 12AM (Reply to #46)
loveofmylife
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NLP

Narc is an expert at that. He 1/2 way says something, people expect the best of him and assume things that aren't true, and he allows them to assume. Let me give you an example. Yesterday, for the third time, someone very important called me and said "yes, Narc speaks so highly of you, I wanted for us to meet. So he turned around your company and then brought you on?!". OK, well, I got the job and I hired him and we turned around the company together. But somehow he is an expert at planting seeds as you say and letting people assume.
Jan 28 - 4PM
agnesmurphy17
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As if nothing ever happened?

I wonder why you act as if nothing ever happened? Because it is you who act as if nothing ever happened. All the slanderous things he said about you to others when you stopped working with him. I think you even lost a contract because he badmouthed you to somebody? Am I remembering this correctly? Because I think I wrote about a legal cause of action, the tort of interference of business with the loss of the contract as damages. So you are the one who forgets & acts thrilled to view sunsets & share dinners & drinks. Also, mind you, not make important business contacts with the other men there. And basically be seen by those men as a flirt with this dude whom they know to be involved with another woman & you are an ex-business partner. Sorry to be tough. But this is all about him & you allow it to be so. You should have said, "We have nothing to catch up on." And returned to the party. I would not have humiliated him in front of the others. I would have disengaged from him out of the earshot of others. For him it's all theater & drama. It's real to him when he says it. It's real to him when he's doing it. But, the minute you are not there . . . you are the genie in the bottle waiting there for him to snap his fingers again. This is how he views you. This is how Otto F. Kernberg, M.D., the definer of malignant narcissism described how the N feels about the person he is involved with. The minute he leaves it's as if the person never existed. He does not think about you or your relationship. If he thinks about you it is only how he can use you to his best advantage & what can he extract from you.
Jan 29 - 7PM (Reply to #43)
Amazed
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Love the hard close!!

We have nothing to catch up on,,love it!!!! You have to have tools to be that tough on them if you must still be in contact,,otherwise NC is the ONLY way to go
Jan 28 - 10PM (Reply to #39)
loveofmylife
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agnes

So many thoughts passed through my mind as to what I should do when I saw him waiting outside for me. I didn't think he would be there - so really didn't prepare. I guess he just disarmed me immediately with the charm that always "appears" to be sincere; which is why I just went with the flow. I do wish I had of asked him "how can you pretend like nothing happend? Did you really mean all those things you said to me last summer?" - maybe next time.. I like your analogy that its all real to him in the moment, and then when you are gone, you are gone and he never thinks about you again. That is very true. No, I'm not the one who lost a contract and you gave advise to. However, he did threaten me with emotional blackmail that if I didn't give him a contract he would tell this same bank that the reason I didn't do it, and the reason the company will fail because of him not being there, is because i was a "scorned woman"...nice.
Jan 29 - 6AM (Reply to #40)
agnesmurphy17
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Next Time

It's too late to ask him if he really meant all those things. And anyhow, what's in the past is in the past for a personality disordered person. They never look at it or think about it! Especially if it's something which they did & should answer to the piper for. There is only something wrong with the victim for constantly bringing up the past. The problem with understanding these men is that WE cannot comprehend what "a lack of empathy" or "a lack of conscience" means. & they prey on people who have an over-developed sense of empathy & conscience. When I finally grasped what a lack of empathy means, I nailed my N down & was no longer in his power. I saw it all -- the scales fell from my eyes. Believe me, I beg you. There is nothing in this man. He is a black hole. Everything you think he is -- it is your own projection onto him. He's about as real as a handsome, male protagonist on daytime television. A person can fall in love with the persona projected on the TV. Think about him obsessively. But he's a character on TV. I saw a daytime talk show about 20 years ago when I was young. "Monica Quartermain" of General Hospital fame said that once she was in an airport & a woman came up to her, said she had to meet the family, "Monica" went with her a few steps & was introduced to the whole family. The actress said she realized that for this woman "Monica Quartermain" was a very real person & played an active role in her life. And the actress was very sensitive to this & played the role in that moment so as not to hurt this stranger in the airport. I am sorry. Your N is about as real as a character in a soap opera. All he will deliver is a drama which has no validity except what you invest into the words. Anything he gives you will be to get something in return. Whether business, or simply YOUR ADORATION. My N has a woman, a 'platonic' friendship. This woman is married but still she is so in love with my N. Even when my N took up with her girlfriend of 25 year -- & then trashed/burned/& abused her girlfriend -- this woman still sided with my N & let the 25 year old friendship languish. This woman did not cut off the N. I know my N said bad things about this woman because I was married to him. But still, she hangs in there with him & she is so ADORING it is almost disgusting. Once we were at her son's engagement party. Somebody came up & asked where is the woman? I answered without thinking, "Find my husband & you will find woman." A person standing there said, "You know. I never thought of that. But, you're right. They are always together." I am not the jealous type. And I know he was NOT interested in her. All he wanted was that puppy-dog adoration. And she was a social mover & shaker, so in her orbit he was in the center of everything. That's what he was getting from her.
Jan 29 - 12PM (Reply to #41)
loveofmylife
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agnes

Great post. Yes, in thinking about it this morning, I think all he ever wanted was for me to be in love with him and give him the complete adoration I always gave him. Just like your story above, everyone who knows us knows that we are always together - for 24 years. If they see one, they will see the other. So he feeds and feeds and feeds me with all of this flirting, charm, asking me whether I'm available yet for a relationship, saying he would love to have kids together, talking about where he would like to go on vacation with me, and where we would like to live, acting like he is completely available and unattached and just waiting for me... and I used to think it was because he did want to move forward. But now I realize, he was just feeding me to keep me in love with him, because it made him feel good; not that he was ever going to act on anything. You are right, it is total lack of empathy and consciousness that someone could do this to someone else. Utter disregard for how it would damage me emotionally and make it impossible for me to bond with anyone else.
Jan 29 - 6PM (Reply to #42)
agnesmurphy17
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Yup!

Mine wasted 3-4 of the childbearing years in her mid- to late-30's of the woman who preceded me. He even agreed to have children with her. But when the time came, he decided for vatious reasons, no. When I first met him, I fell for his version. Me. He wasted 5 years of my 40's. The last of my youth. I just turned 50. He's fine. In the 18 months since I left him, he's had two relationships, one engagement. I'm still a wreck. I'm sorry. People do meet. Do fall in love. Sometimes one or the other is married. And they do bolt & hurt their spouses. This N could have been with you long ago & you could have gotten a divorce. & him? He's been married or in relationships. I'm sorry. When a man loves a woman, he will do everything he can to be with her. Your N doesn't love anybody but himself. They trash & burn other people's lives because it amuses them. It is a sense of control. And, my N, he's malignant. Truly human evil. I would give my eye-teeth to have a stable, dependable, perhaps a bit dull, man in my life. To love & be loved (not some grand passion) -- just a quiet life at home.
Jan 28 - 2PM
Briseis
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What I wonder is . . . Why

What I wonder is . . . Why you didn't react with fear or maybe even disgust when you saw him again, standing there? And why you went outside with him to enjoy a beautiful evening, then ate dinner with him and flirted and all that? After what you've been through for the last 24 years, why you did NOT react with loathing and fear? You fell under his "spell" as if you had no understanding of what he IS. I am SO not judging you honey! Please understand this. What I'm wondering is the same thing as me wondering why you'd reach down and pet a rabid raccoon? And then stand there wonderingly looking at your shredded hand and contemplating the rabies vaccination protocol lol? That is SOMETHING. Do you wonder to?
Jan 28 - 10PM (Reply to #32)
loveofmylife
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briseis

why didn't I react with fear or disgust? probably because he approached me with a very "sincere", warm, and disarming smile and hug...that all seemed so humble and real. He is a very good actor. He knew that the group was so small that it would not be good if they sensed the friction between us...could be very bad to his future business...and I honestly didn't want any tension either.
Jan 29 - 6PM (Reply to #36)
agnesmurphy17
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You're Foolin' Yourself

There were enough men there that you could have sat at another table to mingle & make contacts with new men. Nobody would have to know there was friction. As N pulled you aside to view the sunset, once out of the earshot of others, you could have said, "I have nothing to say to you. Now I'm off to chat business with some people I do not know. This is a business affair. Not a reunion." And then go back to the party with a lovely smile on your face for some banker with big bucks to loan.
Jan 29 - 7PM (Reply to #37)
Amazed
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I have been so lured in by that

Them pulling you aside to view the sunset, keeping you from what you need to do,,,exN in a nutshell!!
Jan 29 - 12AM (Reply to #33)
Briseis
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He royally screwed you over

He royally screwed you over not too long ago, if I remember right. Agnesmurphy hit on it. Something is "off" in that you can just be in the moment with him, as if you haven't spent 24 years having your heart broken by him. Not just your heart but other important things, too :( He is a very destructive man who brings you pain. A "normal" reaction is to avoid. Except you did not avoid, you walked right on into it. That isn't exactly "normal". We're talking some significant residual effects, here. I'm no where near perfect or exceptionally healthy myself, but if I ran into my Narc and he had the wings of an angel and all the BEAUTY of his original charm, I would feel fear and loathing and want to LEAVE THE PREMISES :D . He HURT me, he would have taken me down with him, he tried to do that. It's not about what I lost because of him materially? It's what his disorder did to my soul. Even the lowest form of life, a one celled paramecium, avoids painful stimuli. You are gravitating TOWARD a painful stimuli. How classic for trauma bonding :( !
Jan 29 - 7PM (Reply to #34)
loveofmylife
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Briseis

You're right...something is off about this. I can't believe I let him use me, again.... As I have had time to reflect on it - and the fact that I haven't heard from him since (not that I expected or wanted him to)... he used me so badly, again. Taking me outside to talk intimately was his technique to "neutralize me" or "hypnotize me" - so that he could very quickly get me under his spell and make sure I wasn't going to trash him to anyone in the meeting, or do anything less than totally adore him at the dinner in front of all of those very important people who could give him work! That's all it was...he didn't give a sh*t about what was going on in my life...and to think I let him take me for a walk at the winery and ask all of those personal questions about my kids and other things - once again digging real deep with me and extracting all kinds of innermost thoughts about things. I guess I was hoping he was going to address the DD and apologize for it! (i should know better) And it was just to have me temporarily bond with him so that he could look his very, very best at the dinner - and what a great and charming guy! It is so tempting to drop him a "what was that all about the other night? stop f*cking with my mind" note - but I know I can't.
Jan 29 - 8PM (Reply to #35)
Briseis
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Nahhh . . . what's done is

Nahhh . . . what's done is done. The important issue for you is to explore yourSELF here. Explore your immediate response to him, which is frankly abnormal. And of course I mean abnormal in that this man has VICTIMIZED you, hurt you and humiliated you, but yet you scurry up to him instead of running away. It's like you don't see him as dangerous or bad for you. It's like your instinctual response to him is the opposite of what it should be.
Jan 28 - 9AM
Fawn
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Crack Kills

I hear ya--I was with the N for 25 years, and still felt butterflies in my stomach when I saw him. When I got some distance and went TOTALLY NC those butterflies turned to nausea, anxiety, and disgust. I would suggest NEVER being around him, never hearing his voice, and not contacting him. This is the only way to get over them and to see them for the reptiles that they truly are. It is extremely difficult to maintain NC with three kids together. I have sole custody, so it isn't like I have to interact with him that much, but it is more difficult with kids for sure. Some of my friends think I am extreme in my NC efforts. They don't get it at all. The N will go through periods where he will totally bait me and pretend like he is superdad and Mr. well-adjusted post-divorce guy. Right now he has a girlfriend that actually has a normal job and he is putting on the freaking performance of his life. My older kids are even buying it on some level. Makes me wanna hurl, but I just ignore all hoovering attempts and invitations to appear to be the happily divorced couple. It ain't gonna happen. Stay Away from the creep. Don't let him succeed in trying to convince others that he is normal.
Jan 28 - 4PM (Reply to #28)
betty2020
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It is not butterflies hon.

It is not butterflies hon. It is symptoms of PTSD, Hypervidgelance, fear and extreme anxiety. This is caused by extensive exposure to an abusive situation. This takes time to go away. Even after years of no contact, it can rear its ugly head. We can be triggered, especially if we have exposure to them. It will always be this way if you have contact. It is so difficult for those with children and my heart goes out to you. In this situation the best you can do is to seek therapy and have a self plan of care for when you are triggered. xoxo Betty only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Jan 28 - 4PM (Reply to #29)
agnesmurphy17
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Yup!

I got a piece of paper from him related to the divorce a few months ago. Nothing personal, just a form. I was a wreck. I was so upset to see his handwriting on the envelope.
Jan 28 - 5PM (Reply to #30)
Alive
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!!! yes

i agree even thier handwriting... I looked at it and it was written as if he was 'angry' lol. It looked as if the pen was held and gorged into the paper so hard. It was like he was saying 'i mean this, you'd better do as your told, this better get to you'. Am i going bonkers or what? lol. True to form, one of the comments he made was 'did you get the...?'. Yes i did. I totally got it.:)
Jan 28 - 10AM (Reply to #27)
victimnomore
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Fawn I know what you mean

I know exactly what you mean fawn. NH and i were together for 25 years and we share a teenage son together, I have sole custody so I don't have contact with NH at all. It may seem extreme to some of my friends but i know that he is very abusive and dangerous and I haven't said one peep to him in 5 months and I plan on staying NC forever!

victimnomore

Jan 28 - 8AM
betty2020
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It is the illusion of the

It is the illusion of the delusion that we are addicted to. We let our fantasies run a muck in our brains. Years of being trained that the master is the the all mighty, powerful, mr perfect. We "think" he is the best we will ever get. We "think" he is perfect in all ways. We "think" he is the secrete to our happiness. We "think" we need him in our lives and cant survive without him. We "THINK" he is something that he is actually NOT. Its our convoluted thinking that gets us in trouble. Just because you "Think" something is real and correct does not make it so unfortunately. When you look at a person to determine their character you must look at both the good and bad deeds. One good deed does not trump a bad. This is not how it works. Yes a person has faults. We all have faults. But you have to look at the degree and severity of what these faults are. You must look at their ability and desire to change or fix those faults that harm others. Just because he gets you a glass of wine does not mean it trumps the vial words he spewed to hurt you. You can not take their isolated actions of kindness and allow this to negate all of the destruction and damage he caused to you in the past. Its not healthy. You can forgive to allow yourself to move on, but you must never forget. And with this knowledge you must take action that will protect yourself. Do you really believe that what he did in the past to you was isolated? Do you really believe that what he did to you in the past was not the real him? Do you NOT believe that our actions and behaviors show the true measure of our moral character and personality? You know this man. You spent enough time with him to see the bare truth in all of its ugliness. Is a person that can inflict pain and misery on another human with absolutely no regard for their feelings the kind of man you would say is of high moral standards and exhibits a stable personality? Im so sorry honey but no matter how hard you try, you cant sugar coat shit. In the end when you get to the center you still have a pile of dung that is not safe for human consumption. I think you need to go back to the list of wrongs he has done to harm you. You may have forgotten how extensive this list is. You may have forgotten how much damage he created. How much hurt and pain he caused. Its time to re visit this again. If after, you still feel he is the fantasy man then maybe you have not seen enough. I hope this is not the case but I understand as it happened to me. I had to see more, allow more damage to be done to myself. Eventually you get wise. These people are not the delusional fantasy we believe them to be. Dont let your thoughts run away with you honey. Get real with yourself before you put yourself back in harms way again. Think this out very carefully. xoxo Betty only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Jan 28 - 10PM (Reply to #25)
loveofmylife
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betty

I really am good. I didn't dwell over it after I left. When I left, it was over. Where in the past, I would think about it for days - think that eh wanted to work it out. And in the past, I would take all of his actions as really MEANING something (like they do to me). This time was different - I have healed alot - because i realized that even though those interactions were special to me - it meant nothing to him and it was all an act. I wasn't fooled by it this time and I wasn't under his spell - and I could walk away from it and not think about it anymore....hmmmm..just what a narc does! ugh.. I do have a very long list of the wrongs! thanks for the words, you always have so much wisdom and are spot on. Love this forum!!!! I love this part: "When you look at a person to determine their character you must look at both the good and bad deeds. One good deed does not trump a bad. This is not how it works. You have to look at the degree and severity of what these faults are. You must look at their ability and desire to change or fix those faults that harm others. Just because he gets you a glass of wine does not mean it trumps the vial words he spewed to hurt you. You can not take their isolated actions of kindness and allow this to negate all of the destruction and damage he caused to you in the past. " You know - I think most of this was because he NEEDS me to feel like he is a GOOD GUY again and he needs to feel like he made amends somehow. So maybe he feels like all amends are made now and all is equal. yeah. Just like when I found out he had betrayed me badly and confronted him with it, he offered to pay for lunch to make amends. yeah right. xoxoxo
Jan 28 - 9AM (Reply to #24)
Hunter
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Excellent, Betty, love the

Excellent, Betty, love the sugar coated shit part!! Have an Ideal Day!
Jan 28 - 9AM (Reply to #23)
michele115 (not verified)
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Great Post Betty....

And I hope you are listening to Betty...
Jan 28 - 8AM
Happy1
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What a jagoff! I hope you

What a jagoff! I hope you don't ever see or contact him again!!! JERK!!!
Jan 28 - 7AM
Hunter
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What a complete Asshole and

What a complete Asshole and nut case. How Cruel. I hope you dont go back for more. Thank You for sharing, There is a lesson here, Their behavior truly is crazy. Its sad in a way to think that that have no feelings no love and will die alone. Please stay away from this guy. Hugs Idealk
Jan 28 - 4AM
Scotchy71
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Wow

They're good aren't they? They know just what to do and how to do it because IT'S THEIR LIFE...their survival depends on excellent acting and deception. Because they are a moral free zone, they will stop at nothing to appear like the best combination of James Bond and Prince Charming all rolled into one. And let's face it, it's much harder to be angry with someone in public when they're turning on the charm....notice that...."turning on the charm"...turned it off just as quickly when no one was around at the end too - cowards. What's so great though is you saw it first hand again, how capable he is of pretending nothing happened - just shows their feelings are so shallow, like a little kid playing a game in an adult world - we're all toys to them though, not real, with real feelings that hurt. You should have no doubts in your mind what a loser he is - the ow will surely see the mask fall too, it's inevitable....x