Do Narcissists Attract Supernatural Evil?

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#1 September 26, 2009 - 11:59pm
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Do Narcissists Attract Supernatural Evil?

by Anna Valerious

While holding my breath, I'm going to venture into the uncharted territory of narcissists and evil in the supernatural realm. I have never read anything in material about narcissism that even touches on I'm going to bring up now, so I don't know if I'm going to be describing a complete anomaly or if others will be able to relate. Because my entire approach with this blog is under-girded by my conviction that my experiences are not unique I will venture forth on that presumption now. This is a big deviation for me because I have made an effort to make sure I stay away from the purely speculative and buttress my comments and observations with logic. It will seem like quite a deviation for me from your perspective. Keep in mind, though, that I am describing experience. Mine. I have no way to prove it. I can only describe it. If you have had similar experiences you're going to recognize that I am describing a reality. It is very real to those who've gone through it even if you can't grab onto it, put it in a box and quantify it.

Halloween is around the corner -- as you've been forced to notice due to the movies coming out and candy and decor spread around the stores as you shop. This subject seems somewhat in the "spirit" of the season. So if I'm hitting wide of the mark of the subject of narcissism...at least I'm being seasonal. *big grin*

My narcissistic mother is a magnet for supernatural evil. There... I'll just throw that out there and try to explain what I'm talking about.

I have felt and experienced this evil personally so this is not a figment of her imagination. Unless you want to believe that I have an overactive imagination myself. Believe whatever you want. I have no vested interest in making this shit up. Being a very rational human being I sincerely doubt I would believe in a personal supernatural evil if I hadn't experienced it so frequently and persistently through my childhood. Even somewhat into adulthood. So, I understand if you don't believe in this unseen realm. For some of us it is not unseen or unfelt. In the meantime, I hope you'll be merciful in your judgment of me after this post. I think there is ample evidence that I live on terra firma. I'll just take one foot off the ground, but I promise to keep the other one planted on earth. I'm not brave enough to describe too much of the weirdness because I'm very unsure how it'll be perceived.

Let me go back to one of my Nmother's admissions made to me once or twice over the years. She doesn't believe that the attraction of evil to her is any reflection on her...so she has confessed some things that I don't think she realized how it really sounds to someone outside her self. The reason I believe what I'm about to relate to you is that there is supporting evidence outside of her to confirm it. I think my mother takes a certain amount of pride in the attraction she seems to present to the supernatural world. This explains her willingness to share what she has about the very early beginnings of her contact with it.

My mother admits that as a very young child she started having strange things happen to her including "visits" from something real yet intangible. Some of it frightened her, but one aspect of it she welcomed and embraced. Maybe what she is actually describing is the fact that at a very young age she started to embrace her own evil. I'll never know for sure.

She had a certain precocity as a child as well as being a very pretty little girl. She tended to be very reserved and quiet with adults. Watching, listening. She had experienced a certain amount of power with the adults due to her very pretty little face and well built little body. Her family worships beauty (to this day). There are many very pretty people on her side of the family. Members of the family were often ranked by their level of beauty. My mother has been admired for hers since birth. Perhaps this early and frequent admiration helped spawn the somatic narcissist in her.

What she started to experience was, not so much a voice, but an alternate intelligence as early as four years old. This intelligence did not present itself as coming from her own thought processes. She describes it as a old intelligence... one with knowledge that far exceeded what a child could possibly know. Though she was a little afraid of this sense of having company in her head, she started listening to it because it was giving her extremely important intell. The voice instructed her on how to manipulate adults. She proceeded to implement the information despite her little quiver of fear as to what this power might really be. She experienced great success. Unfortunately for her, this intelligence was not always benevolent. I know it will be tempting for some to attribute this phenomena to some organic brain disorder. If that makes you feel better, go right ahead. I am convinced there is a frequency out there in the supernatural realm that some people are easily tuned to. If you set your dial this frequency the signal comes in stronger. Stay set on this frequency and risk the loss of your soul.

My mother married a man who didn't believe in Deity and, most certainly, did not believe in a personal devil. Living with my mother for a few years changed his outlook...mostly on the existence of supernatural and evil beings. And I'm not talking about my mother herself. No, like the rest of us condemned to live in close proximity to my mother, he felt things. Things that can not be explained rationally. And if there was ever a man who liked to stick to rational...it was my father...especially way back then. I was only an infant when my father willingly conceded that there must be evil beings in the supernatural world. He had only been married to my mother for a couple of years at this point.

My childhood is replete with memories of fear. Where ever my mother made a home it was haunted. Enter a room and feel like you're being watched. See shadowy figures sitting in the living room in the dead of night. Even certain pictures gave off scary vibes.

My mother had a set of pictures that terrorized me for years. I even told my mother that the pictures scared me when I was around six years old...she just laughed. The creepiest one of all was hung for years over the toilet in the bathroom I had to use. So I had to turn my back on that freaking thing every time I had to use the toilet. It was torture. Especially at night. That picture moved from house to house and found itself hung over a toilet I and my sister had to use every time. It was always over the toilet that her children and the children she baby sat had to use. The last home of my parents that I lived in as a youth had three bathrooms. The picture was finally relegated to a half bath downstairs so I could avoid it most of the time. I was 16 years old by this time and I still hated that picture. The picture is gone now. Yeah, mom finally took it down after her daughters both left the nest and she no longer watched other people's children. What is with that? It is like she knew that picture unsettled children. She hung that thing for at least 30 years. I also wasn't the only one disturbed by this picture. Some of the children my mother baby sat dared to voice to me their unsettled feelings about the pictures.

I can understand my mother buying those pictures because she liked them, but there is something cruel and mean about keeping those pictures in the bathroom I was forced to use after I expressed my deep fear of them. My sister told me later that she, too, hated those pictures. These pictures featured children with inhuman eyes. The eyes enter the realm of the "uncanny valley". Very close to human, but not quite human giving you a feeling of revulsion. That I was as disturbed by them as I was I believe is because of the general atmosphere of my childhood home. In addition to the non-innocent child faces of these pictures they also depicted abandonment, sadness, poverty which reflected some of my deep childhood fears and feelings. I have found the actual picture on Google that hung above my childhood toilet. I can objectively look at it and see why some people may like the pictures. But I also see what is disturbing about the picture. I recognize that the picture was interpreted very negatively by me because of the atmosphere of my home and my life. So, as you can see, I'm not ascribing some supernatural power in the picture itself. But it was a representation of the creepy, inhuman and lonely, and sad undertones and overtones of my mother's home.

The pictures are a small thing, but it is representative of the general feeling of unease that both my sister and myself felt at various times. I am not a person who is afraid of the dark. At all. Even as I was growing up I tended to not be fearful of the dark. But sometimes I was. Overwhelmingly. There were times that I could feel that I was not alone. It was not a feeling that was ever-present all through the house, either. I would walk into a particular room and be instantly cold and aware that someone was there. Watching. Darkly malevolent. It would sometimes move to another room.

Maybe we had bad luck and always moved into "haunted" houses, you may say. Uh, no. I don't think so. The last home that I lived in with my parents was built by them. Brand-spanking new. No, it wasn't built on top of some ancient grave site. My parents still live there some 30 years later. That house is filled with the same creepy vibes all my mother's homes had. The common denominator is my mother. What is interesting is that this house my parents built and still live in has creeped out other adults. People who had no idea what my childhood was like. No mention by me of the scary feelings in my mother's home. They have commented on how they felt the very same things I have described here...like the place was haunted. No one sees ghosts. It isn't like that. It is a sense of a cold, malevolent spirit. One that watches and follows you. One that wishes you ill.

Even though I have been visited by this evil presence, I do not experience any of these things outside of my mother's home or presence. It is obvious, therefore, that I am not the magnet for this malevolent spirit. She is. She is the doorway that opens the crypt from which these evil supernatural presences walk freely. Think of it what you will. There is ample evidence that there is a supernatural realm and some supernatural beings are evil. I also think there is some kind of familial connection with evil spirits. I think when a parent invites evil presences into their life by their conscious decisions that these evil things attempt to lay claim to the children.

I have commented in another post that when dealing with malignant narcissism you are dealing with spiritual realities. Pardon me for quoting myself, but here goes:

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You are going to need a sense of moral and psychological strength in order to oppose the destructive spiritual and emotional force of the malignant narcissist. Whether or not you are a religious person, you need to realize that the malignant narcissist carries with them a malignant spirit. The second meaning of the word spiritual is what I'm describing:

concerned with or affecting the spirit or soul.

This is the realm that the narcissist almost entirely operates in. This also explains one reason it is so hard to nail down the evil these people engage in. They move primarily in the spiritual realm. Which means much of what they do seems nearly intangible. Nailing them down resembles trying to nail Jello to the wall. What they do profoundly affects your spirit. When you've tried to explain the effects on your own spirit and the evidence of the spirit of the narcissist, you've often been met with outright skepticism and criticism of you and your motives. This is because people often can not relate to a spirit they've never encountered personally. It is easy enough for them to disbelieve something as ephemeral and intangible as spirit. Who can blame them for being unwilling to believe in the hatefully evil spirit of your mother?
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My post here today is a further exploration of the spiritual effects of the malignant narcissist. It may or may not be part of your experience. Nevertheless, this is one way that my mother's spirit has affected me (and many others in her life) over the years. I describe it in the expectation that I'm not alone in this experience. If you went through something similar you will probably appreciate knowing that someone is willing to try to describe what you too have felt despite the risk of the disbelief of others.

Depending on how this post is received, I may describe some of my mother's night time visits from something frighteningly evil. She has had this night time visitor come for years. Since her childhood it has been a love/hate relationship between her and this visitor.

If you can't relate to this post it really doesn't matter. It is not necessary to have experienced anything like this or to believe other's experiences like this in order to understand and deal with narcissists. This is just a sort of side street excursion. It will be relevant to some and just curiously weird to others. To those for who just find this wacky and weird... thanks for your indulgence.

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March 25, 2010 - 2:39am
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as i read this......

i got a picture in mind...not of my own mother..but of the psychonarc's mother..i always called his parents' house 'the addams family mansion'..because it had that vibe...it was always dark in there on the sunniest day...i couldn't bear to get within more than six feet of his mother...she reeked of cheap wine and expensive stale perfume...and something else..yeah...EVIL...i'll say it..i always thought it...but i'll say it here, now....even at the risk of sounding 'crazy'....she reeked of EVIL...
and eventually the psycho himself came to reek of it too....
rosemary's baby.......

March 24, 2010 - 10:03pm

Anna Valerious Is Brave To Write About This

I am greatful that Ms. Valerious was brave enough to share this information with others.

Topics such as these are very hard to talk about. Maybe someday.

March 24, 2010 - 3:15pm
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evil.....

mine IS supernatural evil.....

March 24, 2010 - 2:15pm
Barbara (not verified)
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Do Narcissists Attract Supernatural Evil?

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The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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September 27, 2009 - 1:32pm

I truly think that most of

I truly think that most of the people in the world have had unexplained events happen to them but are too afraid to tell as for fear of looking mad .
I believe in good energy and bad but weather or not i put a religious slant on it or not the jury is still out .
I do remember my narc said i must of put a spell on him . He also related storys of visits of "beings" in dreams and he told me a story of being able to link rings together as a child .
I also believe we shared a telepathic link to one another .When we tuned in to each other i could finish his sentance of for him and in the early days i knew what he was thinking when he was thinking it and use to freak him out by saying random words that corresponded to what he was thinking . This came about by his expert mirrioring of me and it did feel like a super natural force at work .We seemed to share an interest in the mind and telepathy .
I had to train myself not to tune into him when we split , i think this was one of the reasons it was so hard as i had trained myself to tune into him as that is what he expected (if that makes sense) i had to break a bond .
I know telepathy exsists and i have had countless experiences with it but that i believe is the mind at work and not out side "spirits". I light candles and pray the same as everyone but im still not convinced there is someone listerning .
I do know that with my narc there was something not quite right about him , there are still so many questions to be answered and i thank Barbara for being brave enough to touch on this subject .
Peru x

September 27, 2009 - 1:02pm
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Wow and thank you

Just wanna say how very thankful I am to have found your site, I can relate to this post like crazy. I'm 32 and just a month ago found the name for my mother's insanity, and on top of that the reality that I am not the crazy, bad, sick one. She is. Because I just found the label of her evil (the N word) I am going thru a flood of horrid memories (some hit in the middle of the night waking me up)topped with effed up anger and sadness. It's painful but it's the beginning of finding myself and recovery.
With that, this post about N and evil or supernatural are all too real. I am a very logical thinker, not superstitious, not religiously rigid, and I like facts. I want to know as much as possible before claiming it as something I can label "fact" or "knowledge" or "logical". But when one encounters something like the supernatural (or whatever name one wants to give it in order not to feel uncomfortable or silly about it) it is undeniable, but unfortunatly virtually unexplainable. But that's how IT works. Secretly. My mom, I believe, carries a demon somewhat either within her or around her. I once (as an adult) had to spend the night in that house, that I was also raised in and always felt spooked there. I had experienced some sort of paranormal and very real situation. I think this damn thing is angry that I am not carrying this N gene on down the family line (as my grandmother and her mother were N's too, and my sisters are both N's).
I am so thankful to read about how others are coming together and talking about this disorder. It's so scary, and so lonely, it's painful and it has stolen my life. I always found it weird when people say they love their mothers, or that their mother is their best friend. Really? What's that like? The hardest part is trying to convice myself that the "fantasy bond" I created to deal with her as a child must be broken.
This is all so hard.
So thank you for your help

August 7, 2017 - 2:25pm (Reply to #13)

Presence

I lived with a malignant narcissist for 5 years. I experienced many supernatural events. Even after we split up, I still experienced these events for a while. Extreme events that caused me bodily harm, unexplained by doctors, labs, and various x-rays. Sometimes at night it would feel as though someone or something was getting into my bed next to me. I thought maybe it was my cat, but it wasn't. I am a devote believer so I prayed for God to release theses entities. They are gone. During those years, my cat sensed them and maybe saw them. He would cry and growl in various places in the house and sometimes he would become very frightened. Once on my outside security camera's video, displayed several orbs, one of which appeared to be entering my front door. No more however. Suffice it to say, that I believe these malignant narcissists do attract evil spirits. I lived it.

Evil entities

September 27, 2009 - 2:47am

Ha!

Sorry had to laugh at this though definitely not a funny subject, never anything funny about evil.

My laugh was remembering one of the first calls my N made to me after we split. Seems he had a downward spiral in his life. His mom had a stroke, his dog became ill, his wife went into a coma, he began getting all these collection agencies after him, they almost took away is disability insurance... Do you know he blamed me! That I must be wishing bad, evil things on him. Yes, I sat in front of my cauldron every night, lol. Of course he had to blame someone and that wouldn't be himself. The person that's been lying about his disability for the last 8 yrs because he's too lazy to work. He'd rather play house mom so he can flirt with all the mommies up at school then go home and look at porn for the day. I don't know about the supernatural part. I do believe that in creating or living negatively will ultimately bring a lot of bad things into one's life and those connected with them. They are an evil lot, nothing good will ever come from associating with them.

September 27, 2009 - 12:47am

interesting!

I think that for all that is good in this world, we must understand there is also opposition. Good verses Evil. I think that there are people born in this world that attract good or luck. So it stands to reason that there would be those that attract 'opposing' forces-especially I would say narcisissts-because of the lack of morals or their selfish natures. Souless qualities-easier to influence, especially when tempted with something that they personally will benifit from. It would be like entering a shell of a person-with little or no resistence as opposed to someone who has a strong faith and high morals.

I do think that some people are predisposed to the supernatural. I come from a culture where the our spirituality(still quite pagan) is still alive and well and christianity never quite purged all our beliefs. Some people are like becons to evil just because of who they are.

September 27, 2009 - 12:52am (Reply to #10)
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Is it Halloween yet?

I like scary stories. I could see how a narcissist could attract evil spirits. They have no remorse, and I don't know if all N's, but mine had very little faith in anyone but himself.

September 27, 2009 - 12:09am
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My mother, a very religious

My mother, a very religious person always told us, negative people attract negative energy. We were a large family, (7 sisters and 6 brothers), she would scare the heck out of us by saying, if you all keep fighting, ya'll are going to attract the evil spirit. I half took her joking but in reality, it makes sense. The devil wants to see us bickering. He wants us to be ugly people and do evil to others. I hate to sound ugly, but you're mother could have very easily attracted the evil spirit with her twisted way of thinking and manipulating people. My exN had an experience with his gf before me. He said they were arguing and the rocking chair started rocking all by its self. My exN is so angry and negative about everything. Nothing in his life is ever right. It's like a black cloud over his head. My mom would also say, as long as you are doing "bad things", the evil spirit knows he has you exactly where he wants you. Creepy!

September 27, 2009 - 8:38am (Reply to #8)
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My father was a Narc just

My father was a Narc just like my exNarc. They were so similar in behavior.

Growing up, every house we moved to had ghosts in them. I could see them and watch things move about. My brother saw them as well. I grew up so afraid of the dark and night time. Even during the day, scary stuff happened and I was afraid to be alone there.

When my father abandoned the family and left us in poverty while he lived high on the hog, that spirit of evil stayed in that house.
When we moved because I told my mother I couldnt take it anymore, the spirit left. All homes since then were clean of evil.

So, I believe this evil was attracted to my father for all the evil in his heart and actions against his own family.

I dont know if he opened the door to evil by doing very bad and abusive things, or if he inherited the bad spirit from his own family.

Yesterday I went to a healing seminar that got a little strange for me and I had to leave. The speaker was saying that physical illness and financial ruin, anything that occurs over and over through the family tree...is a curse. There are curses and blessings and curses can be inherited.

It freaked me out a little. She said you would have to ask God to forgive whatever it was that the original offender did.

Creepy subject for halloween, Barbara. I must admit. But interesting as well.

The important thing is that we stay true to doing whats right and good and defending ourselves from this evil that Narcs carry around with them.

~Free to Be~

September 27, 2009 - 12:38am (Reply to #2)
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the converse is true

GOOD people attract negative energy too.
Because Darkness ALWAYS wants to PUT OUT Light.

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"Pathologicals only discard the best, most precious of gems of people... not the worst. They despise the strong, principled, decent & honest. Their discarding of you is then their highest commendation of your worth!" - A.V.

September 27, 2009 - 12:47am (Reply to #3)
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Yes, as my mother would say,

Yes, as my mother would say, the devil will not mess with you as long as he knows he has you, but the minute he knows he's losing you, you will start messing with you. It's true. It seems like when I start going to church regularly, or pray really hard, I get scary thoughts and dreams and I'm scared to be alone. (I hope I didn't offend you for what I said about your mother). I know how it is, sometimes you can say whatever you want about your family but no one else can! (Didn't mean to hurt your feelings, if I did).

September 27, 2009 - 11:50am (Reply to #4)

People of the Lie

I'd recommend this book on narcissism to anyone interested in the tie between narcissism and evil. It's by M. Scott Peck and he was a psychologist who encountered and named evil as part of what his patients "suffered" from. Very intriguing...

September 27, 2009 - 4:29pm (Reply to #7)
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book

the book is PEOPLE OF THE LIE by M.Scott Peck

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"Pathologicals only discard the best, most precious of gems of people... not the worst. They despise the strong, principled, decent & honest. Their discarding of you is then their highest commendation of your worth!" - A.V.

September 27, 2009 - 3:37pm (Reply to #6)

haunted

I'm glad this came up. Thanks for sharing and I'm definately checking into that book.

This is along those lines...

Last year, things were bad. I thought about suicide and didn't even know why. Couldn't imagine what was wrong with me. So I turned to God. I prayed that my eyes would be opened. Then I found the N out and most of his lies. Then I started getting visions. (Please don't think I'm crazy!)
The vision that most concerned me was rats coming into our garage and eating off of our floor. There were hundreds of them. I told N and he said it meant someone was trying to steal our blessing.
I never said a word about it to my counselor and one day she said you know I feel like I should tell you that rats feed on garbage and your husband is going to continue to bring more garbage into the home. She wasn't surprised when I told her about my vision.

God works in mysterious ways!

~Give a Narc an inch and they become the ruler~

nolongercontrolled

September 27, 2009 - 1:51pm (Reply to #5)

Haunted House

I just typed a whole thing about the house I shared with my 2nd husband. It was haunted and I wrote out all the things that happened there. But, as I typed, my whole comment disappeared. This has happened before and I'm not sure why but it's frustrating as all get out.

Maybe my keyboard is haunted....ha ha ha.

Anyway, there were several scary, creepy things that happened in that house. Some where just weird and some were really frightening. Seeing shadows in mirrors, hearing noises and feeling like the house itself was "watching" you were some of the things.

It was an old house and my ex had lived there with his second wife. When I called and asked her about him....she told me to get my daughter and get out. Their marriage was a nightmare too.

Right after we moved in, I was putting my daughters bed together and after putting the brand new mattress down, I went to put on the fitted sheet. There was a push pin sticking straight up and I almost didn't see it. It would have torn my daughter's skin up!

Another time, there were five bullets arranged in a circle behind the bedroom door. My ex swore that he didn't do it but now I have my doubts. He was always saying that the house was haunted. I think it was party true but partly him doing the "gaslighting" technique to make my daughter and I think we were crazy.

He was an evil man and I think he invited evil into the house. The house itself was so old, it was creepy just because it was so dark. I called it "The Dark House" and it's still there. My ex used to say that no marriage that lived in that house survived. Our didn't. But that was because he was such an evil man.

neveragain

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