I moved everything out today...NC Day #1

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#1 Dec 1 - 12AM
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I moved everything out today...NC Day #1

Last night, he was clearly agitated that I really did have a place lined up and I was REALLY moving. It always amazes me that he is so "shaken up" over this...I've done it 4 different times in the 7 yrs together - with full blown conversations telling him weeks in advance. However, he tells me that he is moving every month around the week the rent is due. EVERY month - I ask him specifics and, well, you know you can't ask an N to explain his lies as truthes.

I went to get last coouple things this afternoon and leave the keys (while he was at work, of course, I even drove by to make sure his car was there), I walked into the room I just vacated (I left HIS bed, even though he hasn't slept on it in a year..he's had it 18 months) and it was completely taken down and leaning on the wall of the empty room.

I thought this an odd scene, since he has been sleeping on the floor in the other room for the past year and my replacement, Jenny, has had to sleep on the couch for the past month. It was eerie, it was almost as if the room screamed "if she isn't here, no one can sleep in here!"

And, if history repeats itself, in about a week, Jenny will be getting a healthy dose of N...he will blame her for my leaving, even though this was all his doing and my smart decision.

He has no idea where I moved to, I changed all of my numbers, converted all of my email addresses to my maiden name (so he can't easily email me right away) and discontinued internet/phone service (that I, of course, was paying for) to disarm him as much as possible.

Day 1 of NC. Success! I can't lie, I went from rage to uncontrollable tears all day today trying to cope with the inhuman way he just dumped me on the side of the road after 4 years of marriage. I was ALWAYS there for him, but now that I lost my job 30 days ago, I am TRASH, literally, GARBAGE that was discarded. I get it now. Thanks to this site. But I will never "get it" again. I have made the decision in my soul that I will not let these horrible experiences of the past 7 years hinder me from eventually loving and thriving again sometime in the near future! He tried, almost damn near succeeded - if I were to fall for his next predatory attack (coming within 2 weeks or less no doubt), I think that would be my last train out and I would never come back.

Bring it on! NC is for me. I knew that the first time, but I am living it this time.

Thank you for listening!

Dec 13 - 3AM
mmacali (not verified)
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It's late and I'm tired

But, xN sent a text to my sister (my phone is off). Apparently he received the default filing for our divorce (which means he can no longer contest, stop, or ask for spousal support). Since the words "court ordered" and "restraining orders" were on the docs, he thought he was now free and clear of any violation of previous criminal restraining orders. OK, whatever. Then, after hearing this, I turned on my cell phone (shouldn't have, but did, I am the one who is calling the shots now). He had called. He left a VM stating that he "just wanted to see if I wanted to hang out" and "you used to be cool, I don't understand why you are not being cool now". This means, in the past I caved relatively quickly and it didn't take much for me to get naked with him. I like not being cool. Phone number should be switched tomorrow. I told my sister to honor my huge stance and practice NC along with me, good lord, he's charming but he is crazy. I'm a little on edge. My cat is sitting at the front door as if she knows he is coming...but he does NOT have my address and I live with an attorney who is completely abreast of the gory details (thank goodness for normal people, I tend to forget they exist). I feel safe. I appreciate each and every one of the good souls on this site. Without you all, I'd be in "heavenly bliss" with my N tonight forcing back the hate, anger, and resentment that boils under my skin hoping he really does mean all the things he says tonight. Fighting tears, choking on a bottle of vodka while he's not looking, and ignoring the reality that faces me in 12 hours. Nothing he does will ever take away the power of knowledge. A narcissist is pure evil. Thank you thank you thank you
Dec 12 - 1PM
mmacali (not verified)
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NC #12 and here it begins...

So, I posted that the other day my xN was trying to accuse me of "tampering" with his car, but since I didn't react in any fashion, he quickly dropped that rant and rage. This morning I wake up to find a text on my cell phone (I knew it wouldn't take long for him to get ahold of my number...I may have to change it again). It read (in all caps, of course - I love the irony): "Want to go to Vegas for New Years or u not ever talking to me ever??" So, the great things is, I am choosing option #2 of his ultimatium and by choosing that option, I am not required to respond. No contact. Zero. If he continues with the texts (and I know he will) or starts to call, I will have to change my number. I just don't want to hear the "I love you and can't live without out" crap this time around. I am stronger today than I thought I'd be. Any thoughts?
Dec 12 - 6PM (Reply to #36)
quietude (not verified)
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mmacali

Oh brother, what a D-bag. I get so sick of how they minimize everything. Good for you to keep up the NC - he is going crrraaazzyyy! (crazier, actually) hehe
Dec 12 - 6PM (Reply to #37)
mmacali (not verified)
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Hey People

It should only get more interesting from here. The problem that makes it so very important that I go NC is the fact that I have been the breadwinner, he can't financially make it without someone else...and I made a lot of money, so not just "any" OW will do. I often mention he now lives with Jenny, but she will not nearly come close to the supply he requires. This is why I am not concerned about OW...I can only pray that he finds an OW. Couple that with the fact that I am pretty, I have lots of friends, am loyal, honest, trustworthy, and stable (well, I was til he came along), my xN is losing everything and it will take more than 1 person for him to find supply from to equal what he had with me. He has nothing to lose. That's the really scary part. He will be desperate shortly and that is dangerous.
Dec 12 - 5PM (Reply to #34)
Amazed
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Are you KIDDING ME MMACALI!!

I can't believe,,,,after all you have been through,,he is thinking Vegas. Acting like nothing,,,nothing happened. What a screwed up tactic. Keep taking the other path,,your future will be much brighter, much happier, and you will see what evil he inflicted on you,,it will become very clear,,,and he will be TOTALLY UNDESIREABLE,, in time. They are truly evil,,and seek to destroy people. Stay away!!! Run for your life fast the other direction!!!
Dec 12 - 6PM (Reply to #35)
mmacali (not verified)
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NOT KIDDING

My xN is pretty much a textbook N. When I said that listening to Lisa's radio blog spoke directly to me, I meant it. He lives in a fantasy world. If it weren't for this website, I would still be his rat running around his wheel. My girlfriends want to puke. I, however, am not surprised. I have called my cell company. It will take 24 hours for the number change. It's turned off as of now. ; )
Dec 12 - 1PM (Reply to #31)
Barbara (not verified)
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mmacali

call your cell company and have him blocked. they are unbelievable aren't they? ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Dec 12 - 7PM (Reply to #32)
mmacali (not verified)
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You know what, Barbara

I now have the tools to see an N coming from a mile away. Simple things that I dismissed as "unusual" when I first met this loser are distinctly obvious warning signs. Anyone who types in all caps, forget it. Anyone who sends you flowers because they are worried you want to end the relationship, forget it. Anyone who has a stack of traffic tickets, forget it!
Dec 12 - 9PM (Reply to #33)
destiny (not verified)
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all caps

thank You! you just helped me add one to my list. My Narc..would type in all caps too and big bold font. I ignored so many flags like the nite two weeks into seeing eachother I wasnt picking up my phone...so he kept calling, texting, emailing, myspacing...even went into the chat we frequented asking if anyone saw me!! I thought it showed he cared...now I see he was worried I ran off. He actually emailed me that nite saying that it is not how you end something with someone to ignore them (hmm guess blocking is ok though) He did the all caps thing and bold font , large type with the OW too. “It's not hard to find the truth. What is hard is not to run away from it once you have found it.”
Dec 10 - 7PM
mmacali (not verified)
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NC Day #11

So, today I got wind of what my N is up to. In the past, it took about 10ish days of me not contacting him before he started getting worried. I would typically get a call or a visit from him screaming and yelling some type of accusations or blame. Just on schedule, to the day, he called my girlfriend (the only one he is fairly certain will relay a message) and was in a rage. He rambled off to her that his car had been "tampered" with while he was at work (he works 10am - 6pm, so in broad daylight) and that he knows it's me and that he called the police, they were "on their way", and he plans to press charges. My girlfriend, knowing him even longer that I have, asked what exactly does "tampered" mean and told him that he needs to understand that I am gone and I have no reason, means, nor need to be angry anymore. She suggested he look elsewhere for the culprit (if there even was anything that happened to his car) and directed him towards the boyfriend of Jenny (the girl who moved in to replace me). So, the storm is brewing and if it weren't for my careful planning to make certain he cannot find me, I feel quite safe and very thankful that I have decided to go NC. I am sure in a few days, when he realizes that I am not phased and am not responding to this ridiculous accusation, things will turn to him being depressed and trying even harder to find me to express his undying love. He will not receive any kind contact or word from me. Any thoughts?
Dec 10 - 11PM (Reply to #28)
Barbara (not verified)
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mmacali

stick with No Contact tell your friend to blow him off... if he calls the police - big deal. If the police come to see you just say CALMLY (and no matter what even the police say REMAIN CALM) that you broke up with him because of his abuse and he's using drama (like calling them) to try to get back in touch with you. Give them any information they need but stay calm and friendly. They'll go back to him as if he just 'cried wolf.' He will step it up... dying of cancer... in the hospital... dead parent... you name it - ANYTHING TO GET A REACTION AND CAUSE CONTACT. No matter how much you might want to - NO CONTACT!!!! ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Dec 11 - 7PM (Reply to #29)
mmacali (not verified)
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Crying Wolf - Barbara

The police never came and my friend, after insisting he give details about the "tampering", said he averted the question and acted as if it was a non-issue. HOWEVER, that was round number one...I am aware of this. Next it will be the sympathy card. Shortly. No contact is the best advice I can give to anyone else just joining. Especially if you've been there, done that before. I liked the show last night. I think it was important that labeling Tiger a sex addict is a "cop-out" and makes him seem like the victim. He's a N, he was raised by an N, I would imagine. Poor him - bull. Poor children more like it.
Dec 8 - 6AM
James (not verified)
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Between a rock and a hard place..

NC is never an easy choice but many times it's the only choice. Good luck mmacali. Personally being in NC for 3 years, I can say it only gets better and easier as the days months and years passes. http://james-personalitydisorder.blogspot.com/
Dec 8 - 1AM
Klarity Belle
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Another NC resource

http://gettingpastyourpast.wordpress.com/ This blog is built around the NC philosophy and there are some great articles as well as NC cyber chips to claim every month! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

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"The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran

"That which we do not confront in ourselves we meet as fate" ~ Carl Jung

http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

Dec 8 - 10AM (Reply to #21)
Barbara (not verified)
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yes but...

I have linked to a lot of Susan Elliot's stuff. My ONLY issue with her is her belief in Codependency. I believe codependency is a MYTH, particularly with a pathological; as does Sandra Brown, MA. ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Dec 8 - 6PM (Reply to #23)
Klarity Belle
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Does codependency exist?

I think this is interesting to think about. From my own experiences, I do believe that there is something in me that has attracted partners with strong PD tendencies, there have been too many of them to put it down to bad luck. As I worked on myself over the years I moved away from the narcissistic or bpd types who displayed mean or hateful characteristics towards the more introvert or avoidant types who beneath their behaviours were pretty kind and caring people. The common denominator amongst them all was that they were not capable of sharing an intimate loving relationship, they were all emotionally unavailable. I do see something in me that has unconciously 'chosen' these types even though conciously I was looking for an intimate loving relationship. Not saying I have any answers here but I do see patterns in myself that I am working on and as I unravel/heal my own past hurts and adaptive behaviours, the pull to these 'types' is lessening. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran

"That which we do not confront in ourselves we meet as fate" ~ Carl Jung

http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

Dec 8 - 10PM (Reply to #25)
mmacali (not verified)
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KLARITY & PD Magnet Thoughts

No way am I responsible in any way for anything in my N relationship. I had normal, loving bf's before that. Sure, I was a little neurotic and demanding and I could be jealous at times with some of them, but NONE of them lured me into abuse/caring/abuse/love/abuse/blame/abuse, etc. Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hide was a term coined here on this website and I've only dated ONE of those...that's my xN. We all have areas we can improve upon within ourselves to make us a better partner to our loved one, that's normal and I am not saying I am perfect, but the N situation is simply not normal. My N was not human. It's just as simple and as complex as that. It's not me. It's not you either, KLARITY.
Dec 12 - 7PM (Reply to #24)
Barbara (not verified)
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codependency? NOT....

NOT in abusive relationships it doesn't and NOT with Narcs, Sociopaths or Psychopaths. NOPE. http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/03/23/my-little-rant-co-dependence-and-co-narcissism-0 You need to read the blog posts about being UNDER HIS SPELL. YOU DID NOT CHOOSE, VOLUNTEER or BRING THE ABUSER INTO YOUR LIFE. NO WAY... and get far away from ANYONE who even SUGGESTS that bullsh*t to you! YOU WERE A TARGET! PERIOD ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Dec 8 - 4PM (Reply to #22)
mmacali (not verified)
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I tend to agree, Barbara

Co-dependency almost disqulaifies a "mutual" relationship as blaming someone and making it "someone's" fault. In my situation, I am not dependent on my N for anything, I just wanted his love and approval, as everyone should be entitled to. The mere fact that he is an N, explains why I never received that. I needed answers. It's like banging your head against a wall being with an N. The knowledge that an N is an N has clarified all of that. It's just that simple. There is nothing more to it. It's not my fault, there's nothing wrong with me, I have no control over his disorder...all I can do is practice NC long enough to find a non-N and I am pretty sure I will need a little more therapy in the future when I realize "what was I thinking?", but I doubt it. Lisa's explanation of what Narcissism spoke to me word-for-word...I mean, I can't tell you the light bulb's and ah-ha's that de-brainwashed me the day I listened to her blog talk radio casts! It was literally like a huge wave rippled through my brain and re-washed it back to normal!
Dec 7 - 10PM
NanC (not verified)
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Mmacali

You only left him 4 times in 7 years? I left mine tons of times in seven yrs but then again, i was never married to him. Now that i look back, i wish i had left him & never looked back after the first few months of knowing him. I knew there was something dysfunctional about him. I guess i just thought i could fix him! You are sooo lucky that you can just up & leave with no real reason to look back. Its going to hurt really bad sometimes but take it from someone that went back sooo many times (i really can't tell you how many times i tried) & it never ever changed. It always went back to how it was. Be very glad u didn't have children with him like some of us. You don't have to put up with the reminder of a screwed up relationship & see your exN with someone else. I think we all truly loved these men with all of our hearts & souls. I would do without so he could have before me. In the long run, we will all be better off.
Dec 7 - 11PM (Reply to #19)
mmacali (not verified)
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Hi NanC

I physically picked up and moved all of my things, my cat, signed leases, got help from family/friends 4 times, yes. This does not include the 12+ court-ordered restraining orders imposed by the DA's in our county requiring that he stay away from me. He, unlike other N's, NEVER left me. I made over 6 figs, so he couldn't leave me (even though I offered to help him move out by paying for it). This website filled in all of the gaps for me because, when I lost my job at the end of October with no severance or savings, I was devastated that he had a "friend" move in to help out with the rent (the two of them together still can't afford it). I felt like I was only as good as the paper the rent check was written on. Not to mention, I am pretty, smart, intelligent, and well-loved by everyone who meets me. My N was an intellectual-type, in fact, I thought he was perhaps gay. It may seem that I am washing my hands clean and that this is so easy for me, but it's taking every ounce of my being to stay positive and not look back. If it were not for Lisa's publication on Narcissicism, I'd be back, no doubt. I couldn't bear not knowing "why" in the past. I felt like a failure and wondered what I did wrong. I sought out help via information on the net when I decided to move out this (4th) time because I knew I had to move out emotionally - physically has never worked. I'm only as strong as everyone else's strength on this site. It's only been 8 days...that's a big deal to me. But it hasn't sunk in for my N yet and, trust me, I would love nothing more for him to ride up on his white horse and rescue me and my kitty from this tiny room and make this scary reality of life without him all go away. But it's just an act and only a dream. It's not real. I think that everyone on this website that doesn't understand this should know that I am here, personally, because I believe whole-heartedly that Narcissists DO exist, they are evil, and the only way to be free is to never induldge them in their sick fantasies again. Good luck, NanC. Thank you for your post. I learned more in the past week from this website than I have in all of my life.
Dec 5 - 1PM
Carolyn
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There is a book called "Five

There is a book called "Five Simple Steps to Emotional Healing" by gloria Arensen it might be helpful. you are really going through a tough time losing your job and then being emotionally abused. these things coming at the same time are eally challenging. I hope you find a great new job and a great new guy. sometimes fate or life just clears the decks for the next experiences coming towards you. Make sure you know that there is life after this loser and whoever the next woman is she is on board for abuse be glad that you are gone from all of that.
Dec 5 - 8PM (Reply to #14)
mmacali (not verified)
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NC Day #6 Thanks Carolyn !

I will check this book out for sure. Ironically, I was looking for a way to emotionally detach from my ex prior to moving out (again) because I knew that history would repeat itself if I didn't have some type of help/therapy. That's how I found this website and learned I was dealing with an N! Good god, so many questions were answered and, desipte divorcing, losing my job, moving, etc. all in 30 days, I am in a better position than I have been in 7 years! I appreciate the suggestion...I see the book on Amazon for $7.98. It's Day 6 and still NC!!! I know he will be pounding the pavement for me shortly, but I have gone to great lengths to make it extremely difficult for him to find me. In the past, I was my own worst enemy, caving in after succeeding in leaving him. There is a small part of me that would just love to tell him, "I figured it out, you are a narc and I want nothing to do with you". However, after extensive researching, I know this is a pointless effort and waste of words. I'd much rather say it to you all! This just may be the best time of my life...he is the reason I am unemployed and renting a tiny room afterall, really. TY!
Dec 6 - 6AM (Reply to #15)
agnesmurphy17
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maccali

Do not believe that he has changed no matter what he says or does! You have changed. He will sense that. He may become very fragmented & disordered when he realizes that he's not in control. Really . . . NC. Do not engage him. I left mine on May 2. He & I own a house together. But, like you, I now live in a rented room. I still have my job, thank heaven. The price of getting away is very high--emotionally & financially. But it's so worth it. Do not get sucked back in. He will totally, totally destroy you if you do. If your prize dog runs away, and then you find him again, you build a higher fence to keep him from running away again. If you go back, the abuse will escalate. Do not "unmask" him. Do not tell him what you think he is. First, that is "engaging" him because of a hope that he may have a realization & change. That won't happen. Second, he will become even more dangerous. A cornered animal always lashes out. He will seek to destroy you even more. Starve the vampire. No contact. Keep us posted.
Dec 6 - 4PM (Reply to #16)
mmacali (not verified)
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Yep, agnesmurphy

You are right on about the "cornered animal" behavior. Everyday of NC makes me feel stronger, smarter, and more beautiful. He can wallow in his misery (well, the misery he creates for all the future victims), I can't take that ride anymore! I think the best decision I made was to make this move while unemployed. He literally can't find me anywhere right now and I feel SAFE. Not to sound like an N, but I am very proud of myself right now! I love having all of you to be accountable to regarding my NC, it makes me excited to get on here an post...Day #7 of NC! Thank you!
Dec 6 - 4PM (Reply to #17)
Ellen
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keep going

Hi mmacali, Keep going. I am now NC about 14 weeks ish possibly 12. He left around 8 months ago and time has flown by. I am functioning better every day. I don't feel too bad about xmas either. I feel more hope for myself for the future life i am working on every day. I also feel safe even though ex knows where i am. I feel safe cos i don't think this will ever happen to me again. I am far too careful and cautious now plus not interested. I am happy with my children and no emotional rubbish from elsewhere. You are doing really well.
Dec 4 - 10PM
mmacali (not verified)
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NC Day #5

I am feeling pretty damn good. NC is the only way to go. Thank you all for supporting me through this tough time. Without this site, I would have kept going back to him trying to "figure out" how to fix him. F that. He's irrepairable...but I am repairable! He threw me out like garbage. I repeat this over and over and it works. It's the truth. And one man's trash is another man's treasure. I won't go back. I will continue to post to keep you all updated. Thank you, my friends.
Dec 5 - 8AM (Reply to #12)
quietude (not verified)
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congrats!

YOU KEEP IT UP, GIRL! YAY!!!!!! :)
Dec 5 - 7AM (Reply to #11)
agnesmurphy17
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mmacali

Totally excellent! Keep us posted with updates. Remember, he may start "hoovering." Stay strong.
Dec 3 - 3PM
agnesmurphy17
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How's the NC going?

Let us know how it's going for you. NC is the only way. My N threatened to divorce me every month starting shortly after I married him. We were married 2 1/2 years when I left. He was "stunned" that I abandoned him. Didn't mean he wanted a divorce. These guys are just so abusive & inconsistent & just plain NUTS! Never go back. No contact! You have already paid too high a price. Be strong.