The King of Addictions

The King of Addictions
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In dealing with my Ex-Narc (before I knew he was a Narc) and his weird entourage, I kept on saying to myself: "They're acting like a bunch of addicts!"

I thought that on so many occasions- their behavior was just that 'off'. Later, when Robo-Boy's mask cracked and I learned more about PD's, my good friend shed light on what I was experiencing. She calls narcissism: The King of Addictions.

Isn't THAT the truth? Narcs are so consumed with keeping up their image, so addicted to their mind games and role of puppet master to everyone in their lives. So stuck on themselves- on their beauty and perceived perfection. And then, of course, is their insatiable lust for ATTENTION- for SUPPLY- their drug of choice.

Many NarcoPaths are also poly-addicted. They often supplement their Supply needs with a sexual addiction and/or a substance abuse problem- sometimes they are gamblers and over-spenders.

Anyway, thanks for all you've said, d.talks- especially that you have battled your own demons and emerged a better, more spiritual person. You wrote:

"it's no wonder the narcopaths (love that term!) all lack (true) spirituality (although, as NMAE seems to have experienced, some of them really put on a good show). i mean, look at what it entails:

"humbling yourself to the reality of a much greater, higher power than yourself. (humility--'nuff said!)
-relinquishing control (for a narc, terrifying!!)
-accepting our own flaws and others'. (requires insight & compassion)
-honesty and vigilance
-service to others"

Yes, as we've been saying, NarcoPaths don't change because they see no flaws in themselves- only in others. Everything you mentioned is crucial to personal growth and change. The NarcoPath lacks true self awareness- though I believe he has moments of clarity- then it's back to drowning himself in Supply and other mood altering behaviors.

The Disordered One needs to first get off his throne, relinquish his delusions of grandeur/control and find some humility. And honesty? Nearly impossible!

I KNOW in my heart that personality disorders are not simply a mental and emotional problem- but also a deep spiritual lack, as well. And I keep saying that I'll start a new thread with that topic. And I will, but first I have to really gel some of the ideas I've been mulling over for a very long time.

I also became aware that when I danced with the devil, he didn't have a gun to my head. Examining the part that I played in all this craziness has been really enlightening- and also scarey!

More on that later- for sure. And thanks so much for everyone's insights!

Rising Dawn's picture

Obsessed much over his image

This reminded me of something about my exN...

"In dealing with my Ex-Narc (before I knew he was a Narc) and his weird entourage, I kept on saying to myself: "They're acting like a bunch of addicts!"

He totally had a bunch of young men that worked for him that were "in love" with him. They looked up to him and talked about him with such adoration that it was creepy. He always came up as a topic of conversation b/c he was just "so interesting". He also "mentored" the most attractive women at work (by paying them special attention or giving them perks) under the guise they were talented and hard-working. To be fair, they were, but he only did this with the attractive women, since he would then be associated with the image of them.

It all makes sense - he surrounds himself with people that "love" him and make him look good, so he can be constantly supplied (addicted).

Sooooo transparent and pathetic now that I understand.

And he has a total lack of spirituality, which he actually is aware (or so he said). Before we parted, his big thing was to be more "in the now", being more "mindful", and breaking down his Ego so he can find his true Self... He talked all about going back to Buddhism and meditation, etc., but like another member posted below, whether he did become more spiritual or not, I don't know for sure, since I am in NC. However, I recently heard something about him by accident, and from that piece of information, it would appear he is still more fixated on his image than his inner self.

Sooooo predictable - he is a Narc and he probably will never change. All words and no action.

Canada's picture

Fab topic NMAE

The one thing, the most important thing I've learned and absorbed in the last three months of full time study (where's my diploma?) is the concept that they have an addiction, and by proxy, so do we - the co-dependent aspect of the relationship. Which is why when people ask me "How can he treat you like that?" I answer with the heroin in three rooms analogy. (there's heroin in each of three rooms, N walks into a room, shoots the heroin and moves on to the next)

They cannot choose how they act anymore than they can choose their parents or hair colour. I even see it as being kind of like a paraplegic - they're trapped inside themselves and don't have the freedom to make the choice to get better, or to alter their behaviour. It's all compulsive because they are operating at the basest level, their very SURVIVAL depends on it. And lack of available N supply equals severe withdrawal and never personal growth.

no more an echo's picture

our life in dog years & swishy little butterflies

Thanks, Canada! I always look forward to your input, BTW.

I like your heroin analogy. I pretty much saw that compulsion when Robo-Boy would flit from congregant to congregant SUCKING our nectar. They don't call it 'SOCIAL BUTTERFLY' for nothin'! (And before I forget, that little 'mariposa' was also more than a bit swishy!)

And about that diploma of yours...

I think we all deserve our freakin' DOCTORATES! Our lives with our Ex-NarcoPaths felt like DOG years! We ALL get honorary Ph. D.'s!!!!!!!

Canada's picture

You're always welcome, and I

You're always welcome, and I always enjoy your thoughtful posts!

Ah yes, you are doing the bee-vampire analogy (how about BEE-VAMPIRES on HEROIN? Yes, they're just that evil...) Ha! Mariposa!!

I'll design a diploma for anyone who wants one, that would be hilairs! You can make up the title, I'm bad at titles. So to summarize, good at analogies, bad at titles, hate BEE-VAMPIRES.

Peeks's picture

Oh yes....

please get going on the 'spiritual lack' aspect of the PD's. Think it would be a really worthwhile subject to explore.
I know for myself, that I was lacking in that are of my 'self' when I cam together with mine - in fact that is one thing that drew us together more than anything.
Both having huge interest and supposed knowledge of all things spiritual and yet the irony, for me at least, is that the whole experience triggered a genuine spiritual awakening in me - one I had been tip - toeing fearfully around the edges of the whole of my life.
I was very drawn to spirituality - and the pain of relationship - it's nature, its ending etc took me on a trip I would have run a mile from if someone had been able to tell me where I was about to go !
I would love to know his experiences on a spiritual level in the aftermath (if there were any - he was already on the path) but of course, with NC this will forever be an impossibilty.
Who knows - maybe this is one of the main reasons we have these relationships - to show where there is deep spiritual lack and to get us into shape.
I know for sure all the aspects are linked - now in our society that has broken down old constructs of security ie : one family of origin that you stay with by hook or by crook until leaving age etc - we are trying to find new ways to be and live that do not depend on these crumbling constructs - our spiritual lives can be sorely lacking too.
I am getting a little lost but I know what I am trying to say - and going deeper into this debate I think would be enormously helpful and no doubt eye - opening.
Bring it on !!!

no more an echo's picture

the light and the darkness

Hi Peeks,

I love that you wrote:

"... is that the whole experience triggered a genuine spiritual awakening in me - one I had been tip - toeing fearfully around the edges of the whole of my life...Who knows - maybe this is one of the main reasons we have these relationships - to show where there is deep spiritual lack and to get us into shape."

Wow. Yeah. There's nothing like a run-in with the narcissist or psychopath to get us back on track. God had me thrown into that deep pit to get a glimpse of hell (how else would we truly appreciate light if not for the contrast of the darkness?)

I always said to 'Preacher-Man' that his lessons for me were not going to come from his pulpit. Who knew how true those words would prove to be? He unintentionally put me on the path to even a deeper relationship with God.

But please, don't wait for my take on the spiritual lack of the NarcoPath (it IS coming, though!) and his deal with the devil! Feel free to post right here and right now!