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I've been thinking how we all, but women especially, are brain-washed by popular culture and groomed to be easy targets for the personality disordered predator. Many of us were raised in highly dysfunctional families that ignored our needs and feelings and catered only to the pathological needs of one or both NarcoPathic parent(s).
Add to that a culture that demeans females- much of it in the name of 'entertainment'. (I could go on a RANT about misogynistic Rap lyrics and video games, etc, but I'll keep it brief).
This is what I mean by cognitive dissonance and double messages in popular culture (and feel free to add your own experience):
~When a glossy ad for bras or cosmetics is selling you a 'natural look' or a 'maiden form'.
~We extoll the virtues of living a sober life when so many Hollywood starlets are getting press for their bad-girl stunts- in between their rehab stays. What message does that send to our kids?
~That a highly sexed culture (sex is used to sell almost everything & casual sex is shown on prime time TV) would mock teenaged girls for getting pregnant. (I'm thinking about of society's scorn of 'welfare mothers' as if the girls have impregnated themselves!)
~That our culture reveres the thin figure on women, yet everywhere are ads of fattening, dripping cheeseburgers, gooey pizzas and microwaveable junk disguised to look like real food.
~We tell our kids to eat healthy and exercise, yet most public schools offer only 'quasi-food' and no recesses or gym classes.
There are many such examples but you get the idea. I also believe that art and music can shape a culture's attitudes and so many times I'll hear a song and go, "HUH?"
The lyrics below are not the worst example but probably one of the more recent. And I'm not saying that Mr. Clare is a Narc- only that his message is so confusing. Well, you be the judge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYXjLbMZFmo
ALEX CLARE LYRICS
"Too Close"
"You know I'm not one to break promises
I don't want to hurt you but I need to breathe
At the end of it all, you're still my best friend
But there's something inside that I need to release
Which way is right, which way is wrong
How do I say that I need to move on
You know we're headed separate ways
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
There's nothing I can really say
I can't lie no more, I can't hide no more
Got to be true to myself
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
So I'll be on my way
You've given me more than I can return
Yet there's oh so much that you deserve
There's nothing to say, nothing to do,
I've nothing to give
I must live without you
You know we're headed separate ways
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
There's nothing I can really say
I can't lie no more, I can't hide no more
Got to be true to myself
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
So I'll be on my way
So I'll be on my way
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
There's nothing that I can really say
I can't lie no more, I can't hide no more
Got to be true to myself
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
So I'll be on my way
So I'll be on my way
So I'll be on my way."
HUH? So, he's dumping his lover but says: "at the end of it all, you're still my best friend"...WHAT?
And he's "just too close to love you"...WHAT the...What?
Well, double messages have always been my pet peeve. This song is on my sh*t list for now- next week it'll be other things.
Care to add your own?
pet peeve of the week:
July 24, 2012 - 4:28pm — no more an echoSo here's my (recurring) pet peeve of the week:
Since when has it been the woman's responsibility for the health and longevity of a relationship? Isn't a 'relationship' by default at least two people?
I hate this particular double standard because I suspect that it keeps decent women like us with destructive, useless men.
How many of us dragged ourselves to the brink with our Ex-NarcoPaths? Thinking if there was enough good in them to work with we would stay and gather his pathetic crumbs of affection.
Beating that dead horse when I KNEW better... How about you?
Good Will Hunting...
July 22, 2012 - 3:16am — petitoiseauwas like *the* "romantic" movie when I was a teenager. I watched it recently and was totally disgusted. This is supposed to be our ideal man -- a violent, incredibly manipulative, pathological liar. Oh, but he's a "troubled genius!" All he needs is an understanding woman to put up with all of his crap, even after he gets violent and abandons her. That's true love, ladies.
:P
Gross.
tortured geniuses (& aren't they ALL?)
July 22, 2012 - 12:48pm — no more an echo"C'est un petit oiseau qui a pris sa volée..."
Hi petitoiseau,
The troubled/tortured (male) genius is a character so very over-used in Hollywood. And aren't they ALL such misunderstood demigods?
His 'Good Woman' remains invisible but ever at the ready should he have a need.
Yeah. True love. Makes me want to puke on my shoes. Scratch that...HIS SHOES!
The mens magazines probably
July 20, 2012 - 3:58pm — beautifulmessThe mens magazines probably say
How to cheat and not get caught.
How to be FWB.
100 best pick up lies ( oops I mean LINES )
How to talk your woman into having threesome.
Get her to give you what you want in bed.
250 ways to please yourself while she works.
Top 50 best free porn sites.
100 best pick up lies
July 20, 2012 - 4:05pm — no more an echobeautifulmess,
it's ALL good, especially:
"100 best pick up lies ( oops I mean LINES )"
And haven't we heard them all? Hahahahahahaha!
p.s. Notice how their 'threesome fantasies' don't include a hot, young, virile, STRAIGHT man that's totally into YOU?
I'm not saying that I'd go for that- just pointing out that, once again, it's ALL ABOUT THEM!
ughhh beautifulmess
July 20, 2012 - 4:01pm — Jenna HWhat kind of world do we live in for the love of God. And I'm sure the narc read them all....
love does not transform the beast
July 20, 2012 - 3:40pm — no more an echoI don't know if this belongs here but I really hate some of the messages we give our little girls. There are so many stupid stories and movies but the one I'm hating this week is "Beauty and the Beast"...
You know, Girl meets horrible Beast and through her love, patience, 'beauty', (tolerance of his abuse), etc.- eventually TRANSFORMS him.
How can we end this? These subtle (and not so subtle) messages are everywhere!
Anyone?
Beauty and the Beast
July 20, 2012 - 4:04pm — Jenna HBeauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney princess movie, too!
But so true, subtle messages everywhere. Important to teach our girls after watching these movies that it is just that - A MOVIE. Fantasy.
Popular culture is very sick
July 13, 2012 - 2:34am — jackguyIt's all centred around creating the idea of being defective/less than. Most of the 'culture' is actually just companies selling things, not culture at all. I remember years ago when Christina aguilera did that genie in a bottle song-I said to a couple of people that's soft porn. I dont place myself above it but am just saying most of popular culture is directly related to sex now. Think how many celebrities have been on tv talking about their sex tapes.
Also there's loads of sentimentality- think of the stories on x factor etc. Psychopathic sentimentality
trying to live more authentically
July 13, 2012 - 2:53am — no more an echoHi jackguy,
I couldn't agree with you more, Popular culture IS VERY sick. Sadly, though, our culture creates what is considered 'normal' behavior- especially to the youth of a population. They are so vulnerable to these messages.
And you're right about our 'culture' simply being mega-companies selling things- and how unreal is that? We're being force-fed images that are false and detrimental to our mental health.
I say 'force-fed' but what I should ask if there are many among us that would give up our smart-phones, internet, televisions, etc.
I'm just trying to live life more authentically. And that contrast between reality and popular culture makes me feel even more like a stranger in a strange land.
I think there is a real
July 13, 2012 - 2:15am — tootsgeeI think there is a real epidemic of guys getting off the hook and it being social acceptable.
My friends are mostly in relationships where they are tolerating bad behaviour... not neccessarily N or P behaviour but inconsiderate, selfish and downright damaging in my opinion ... and the words I hear most often are .. "well he is a guy and that's what they are like"
It just enrages me...... its not right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why should anyone tolerate crappy behaviour just because of the sex of one of the couple!
I cant keep my mouth shut about it and I'm the one that looks unreasonable! xx
"I think there is a real
July 13, 2012 - 3:39am — owenjohnston"I think there is a real epidemic of guys getting off the hook and it being social acceptable."
Epidemic is the best word to describe this :(
I was watching (trying to watch) a show on BBC called Settled vs Single and it showed single people who had sex with more than 250 people and they were like 20 and said that it was impossible to have a monogamous relationship in this day and age. then it showed seemingly happy "settled" couples having group sex and having threesomes to "keep the spark alive"
It depressed me so much i couldn't finish it because i thought that was what everyone was like and that love and romance doesn't exist anymore
desensitized
July 13, 2012 - 10:08pm — Jenna HThat is more and more what the world is. Is nothing sacred anymore?
love is dead
July 13, 2012 - 4:08am — no more an echoHi owenjohnston,
Wow. Yeah. I'm depressed from even reading about your experience surrounding this BBC program.
Think also of all the possible diseases spread with over 250 sexual partners. It boggles the mind.
Thanks a lot, owen. Now I'm rooting around my house- going on a 'chocolate hunt'!
oh crikey that is
July 13, 2012 - 3:43am — tootsgeeoh crikey that is depressing..... I think the rise of the internet and internet porn has people really off base when it comes to what is acceptable...
I have been contacted on FB by a number of old school friends who are married and seemingly bored who are looking for an escape! Delete and block but I think its really frightening and disturbing...
I would really like it if my next partner was completely IT illiterate! :-)
xx
The Internet basically offers legalized prostitution
July 22, 2012 - 6:19pm — eyesopenedAny and all sugar baby websites are for selling and paying for sex..and it's legal. Everyone involved knows there is an agreement up front that money will be exchanged for sex. I saw a panel of men and women on a morning talk show discussing the most successful site (which my exN uses). The men saw nothing wrong with the concept. That is disturbing. My exN said once (before I knew anything) that it was "just hookers going about it a different way."
The internet, where you can get more than just shoes and books with a quick click.
"I would like my next partner to be completely IT illiterate!"
July 14, 2012 - 1:19am — no more an echotootsgee,
I'm going to find you a nice Amish man!
Be careful what you ask for!
then i'm 'unreasonable', too!
July 13, 2012 - 3:00am — no more an echoHi tootsgee,
Unfortunately, our culture is increasing in it's narcissistic attitudes/self entitlement.
We live in an age of instant gratification and casual 'hook-ups'. A culture that encourages mass spending and little emotional attachment to anybody.
I don't see this selfish trend changing anytime soon...
Personally,
July 12, 2012 - 8:30pm — ruby01I loathe Cosmopolitan Magazine.
ME TOO. Junk. Pure junk.
July 20, 2012 - 3:44pm — NarcbaitME TOO.
Junk. Pure junk. And to think, I grew up reading that garbage!
"Keep your man!"
"2000 ways to keep your sex life hot!"
"What men love in bed!"
"What men hate in bed!"
"Why men stray"
It's always jam-packed full of articles on the next thing you need to do to keep your man, or keep him happy. What about us?!
So agree Narbait
July 20, 2012 - 4:03pm — fern... I've got to admit I don't buy magazines or bother with it all. It's like conditioning and all about him.
Mens' magazines have women on the front, and guess what so do ours.
It's all about how we have to be super career women, super friends, super party animals, super domestic goddesses, super mothers, super in bed, super at understanding him, sure he can flirt with other women blah, blah.... plus it almost seems that the media are encouraging affairs, saying it's so normal blah, blah.
Where's the pressure for men???? And we are supposed to have got our liberty? We have a lot more than we did but all this being thrust in our face the whole time sometimes makes you wonder....
Wow, sorry I think I am ranting a lot tonight...I'll go and grab a drink ;-)
Why isn't there more advertising about how to please WOMEN!
July 20, 2012 - 3:51pm — Jenna HThat's what I want to know! And I don't mean sexually... there's plenty of that.
jenna & Narcbait,
July 20, 2012 - 4:00pm — no more an echojenna & Narcbait,
I SO agree with all you said here...Also:
Could men (young and old) STOP taking 'lessons' on sex and 'what women want in bed' from their FREAKY, men (Read:package) centered-porn!?!?!?!
Yes, agree Echo, again!!!
July 20, 2012 - 4:06pm — fernYes, agree Echo, again!!!
They haven't an effing clue!!
grrh, must get that drink now....
x
A-MEN!! 'Cause trust me...
July 20, 2012 - 3:52pm — NarcbaitA-MEN!!
'Cause trust me... most men need it. :D
Yeah Ruby! The "how to please
July 12, 2012 - 9:31pm — beautifulmessYeah Ruby! The "how to please HIM" magazine. 5000 ways to make him never want to stray.. 101 ways to make him crave you.. Blah blah blah.. I used to read it all the time..
hating cosmo
July 13, 2012 - 4:31am — no more an echoMe too, ruby & beautifulmess!
I HATE that Cosmo Mag is shamelessly ALL ABOUT HIM.
It just reinforces the notion that women need to try harder, be sexier, jump higher, attain 'glamor', perform the 'right moves', find the perfect lip shade- all to attract and 'keep their man'.
The magazine should be re-named: How to Be a Shallow Narc-Magnet
It's just like the movies!
July 13, 2012 - 12:11am — LindsayMMovies like FWB and No Strings Attached seem cute and funny but actually in reality they are disgusting and not funny at all.... It shows people hey let me use you for sex and it's okay ha,ha,ha Ashton and Justin did it and it had a happy ending it must be okay! Actually it isn't okay.... FWB, Booty calls,etc usually wind up making you feel like trash and the guy winds up tossing you aside hurting your feelings and you wind up feeling hurt and confused it isn't like the Ashton and Justin movies at all. Movies tend to glorify things making the younger audience think everything has a happy ending and everything you see on the screen is true what you do not see is people getting hurt, feeling used....
insipid 'romantic' comedies
July 13, 2012 - 4:14am — no more an echoLindsayM,
Good point. There are so many insipid 'romantic' comedies that reinforce the equation:
STUPID CHOICES + 'CUTE GUY/GIRL' = HAPPILY EVER AFTER
"Movies like FWB and No
July 13, 2012 - 3:40am — owenjohnston"Movies like FWB and No Strings Attached seem cute and funny but actually in reality they are disgusting and not funny at all."
I can watch films like this and laugh because i just tell myself it isn't real and it's just make believe and don't take it too seriously, but when it happens in real life yea that does depress me