The Contact and Resulting Pain

The Contact and Resulting Pain
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For those of you that didn't have children with your N, please be thankful. I do love my kids, at the moment he's using them to win me back. He was always a useless piece of crap daddy, and will continue once he figures out I am NOT coming back (it takes a while for Ns to process this)

My twins went camping this weekend with dear old dad. Dad has been doing all kinds of cool stuff now that I'm gone, the stuff he never did since the day they were born. I can take solice in knowing that the minute they hit the city, twinB called and wanted me to pick them up right away!

Just before they called I checked my email, I have a rule set up in the email that anything that comes from him goes into his folder not to be read, since I haven't received any in weeks, I thought it had worked. Wrong. I got a series of emails sent from his phone about the great weekend he was having with the boys, "me and our sons camping" The two last emails were subjected "the mom I never had" and "I wish we can be a family again". Like a fool, I opened to see which pic it was and it was me and ex step daughter at her grad. This pic was taken on HER phone and I was no where near him. She sent it to him. I was LIVID. I deleted all pics and emails, even the ones of my sons, double checked the failed rule to make sure it works next time.

Oh, and Sat, a series of texts came through, usually my boys play with dad's phone and they send me "hi mom", there were 5 that came through at the same time, probably because they were out of town they were delayed. In the middle of these texts was a "Dawnwins, I miss you". If it wasn't a work phone, it would have been smashed to a million pieces, instead I threw it hard to the cushions of the couch.

Then I go pick up my twins this afternoon. Loon asked if I had received mail, I said no. What's the matter....nothing. Drove off. In the car driving home I was near meltdown, twinA said to my daughter, we went camping and YOU didn't....I yelled STOP and starting bawling quietly. I don't want them to see mommy crying, I want to be strong. He is NOT going to win, never, ever. The reason I start crying is because they're too young to understand what their dad is doing. They're too young to understand their father is a psychopath.

abreva's picture

Sorry DawnWins - it will get better.

DawnWins --

You know I KNOW your situation.

This Will Pass.

You did the best you could in the situation.

You are going to institute new policies that keep you safe and free of him.

In the future, you will laugh about this pathetic and typical attempt he is making to mess with you. I will laugh with you.

goldie's picture

I know this is painful

However your response was perfect.

NO..........

That is often the best way to respond a simple, NO.

That shut him right up and left him with NO comeback.

You will get there, sorry to say, it sucks, I know. One day you will just not care what he has to say because it will HAVE NO WEIGHT at all. Took me several years with Narc DAD; yet when I did it was FREEDOM, he would be talking and I would barely be even listening and he would say:

Did you hear me?? I would say, yes, but I have to run. BYE BYE.........Thank God our children have US is all I can say :)

Enjoy your weekend,

Goldie

DawnWins's picture

Funny, I'm getting stronger

Funny, I'm getting stronger with N father as well, I now know I have the strength to walk away!

Janie53's picture

Dawn Wins

I can imagine how hard it is to co-parent with a psychopath. Kids learn from example and will benefit from the strength they see from you. As they grow older they will realize how transparent his games are and how he is using them. Stay true to you and they will learn to do the same.

Janie

indenial's picture

They are too young to understand their father is a psychopath

Sounds really eerie doesn't it ? I feel for you. I'm one of the lucky ones. I escaped having kids with him though sadly I desperately wanted more kids but the 3 years wasted with him have put payed to that one. I admire you for being able to cope under these circumstances. Must be so hard

Diamante87's picture

Heartbreak

I wish I could offer some solace for you because I know it must be hard. As a matter of fact, I just found this site and the book and this is my first posting. I haven't even shared my story yet because I feel so tired from all the info I've been reading, but your story spoke to me. Mainly because I'm 8 wks pregnant with my ex Narc and I've been struggling with what to do. Of course he doesn't want me to have it as he already has two children with his ex, who in reading this I realize is the one he always goes back to, and I'm terrified because I dont want to be like her. She's someone who never did the research, still plays the game, and still always wants to be with him. But I'll talk more about that when I share my story...I fear that if I have this child one day this could be my story, wanting to be a strong mom and breaking down because of his games. If you could go back, knowing what you know now, what choice would you make about having children with him? I'm sending you a huge hug your way because I know it has to be stressful, but keep pushing. You seem to really be doing a great job especially with setting boundaries and trying to keep them. It's been 3 wks since we've broken up and he's crashing at his ex's house, 13 days of NC, I deleted him off my FB today, I'm struggling emotionally even with all this info, and stressed about this baby situation. Any suggestions would really help...Thanks

gettinbetter's picture

Wow. What to say here. Either

Wow. What to say here. Either way once you become pregnant by these freaks or anyone for that matter, I believe you become connected to them. I say this because I was pregnant with Narcs baby many years ago in my early 20 s and both right out of college. Both somewhat terrified at how our families were going to react we terminated out of pure panic. Do I regret that decision in many many ways YES but in many ways no. Had I had to share custody with this man Im sure I would have died from emotional abuse. Seriously I think it would have killed me.

With all that said, Im still connected to this man not in physical sense but in a spiritual sense. The fact is we created another human soul. Just because you terminate doesnt mean that their soul didnt exist. It just means they have gone back to be with God. I believe that after we are both gone that we will know eachother again in the next life. I think once you conceive a child together you are on some level eternally connected however that doesnt mean you have to be suffer abuse in this life. In a way I am comforted that my child is safely tucked away with God where this man cant abuse them. Trust me he will emotionally abuse the child as he has abused you. You dont get to pick your parents. Its almost unfair to that baby to bring them here knowing that they will in fact be abused. Im not giving advice on way or another just simply giving facts and information

abreva's picture

A child with a psychopath links you FOREVER.

You will always be at their mercy.

I love my children more than anything, but I recommend that you Terminate.

It is an act of Bravery in this situation.

Get free of him.

You will NEVER be free, if you have their child.

DawnWins's picture

Definitely post your story,

Definitely post your story, if you are reading other's stories I am sure yours will start to sound familiar!
8 weeks pregnant? I'd say go run far, far away and make an awesome life for you and your little one without the N in your life. It does NOT get better, ever.

Sikntired's picture

Keep your gift and run with it.

Having had two children with my N...here's my thoughts:
Keep your child if you can afford to or think about adoption. Since he doesn't want it that may be an option. It's possible you could have him sign over parental rights (if you catch him at the right moment) which would ensure he won't keep popping back to bother you when you least expect it. (Which he will) It would mean he wouldn't have any financial responsibility, but believe me it's worth it to keep him away. I had the conventional divorce with visitation/child support and he would disappear for a few years here and there...not pay...show up...pay for a little while...spend lots of time with the kids and buy them stuff...make lots of empty promises to them...keep trying to get me back. EVERY time he came back into our lives, he acted like he wanted to be a part of theirs and EVERY time he figured out I actually wasn't coming back he disappeared with no word to the kids...no contact. Can you imagine what this does to a child? Not to mention that he convinced my son that I kept him away over money, which was entirely not true. When they were about 12-13, both of my sons decided they didn't ever want to talk to him again and that was entirely their choice. I didn't even tell them about all the stuff that he did until they were adults. Anyway, bottom line is - keep the child if you can and GET AWAY if you can. Believe me, I've been dirt poor and wondering how in the heck I'd feed my kids the next day and it still was better than having to deal with him.
Best of luck to you. Just that you found this site and are asking for help shows that you are strong enough to do the right thing.