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You may or may not remember, I ride horses with my daughter, every weekend. When Trotters and I were together, we did this altogether, as a family. In fact, if it hadn't been for me, his 2 girls would not know one end of a horse to the other.
Since we split 6 months ago, he has continued to take his girls and now OW (ooh, did this 6 weeks after leaving me!), who eerily also rides and so I am told, looks like me...this creeps me out.
So, we have happily avoided each other up to this point, I go at different times, I don't go out of my way but ensure that I book on a different day. Part of his control has always been that he wanted to go first thing on a Sunday, so that he could then deliver the masterpiece of a Sunday lunch to his girls and now OW!!
This weekend, I have booked to go on Sunday morning, purely due to having a busy Saturday, other plans, parties with my kids. So what has he done? He has booked the slot directly after.....blatantly sticking 2 fingers up to me. Typical behaviour.
So, he will be arriving whilst I am still there, with OW and his girls. I am NOT changing my time, I am NOT allowing him to manipulate me or bully me into changing my plans or make me feel as if I have no rights anymore. But I can not help but feel that he is using this as an opportunity to rub my face in it, it is actually laughable. I have been NC for over 3 months, not a whisper. I clearly have not been the loopy stalker ex that he has told everyone I am, I have been NC and started rebuilding my own life, and loving doing so. And now this? Really? Why on earth would you want to expose OW and your kids to me if I am sooooooo unhinged????!!! LOL! I am actually finding this quite unbelievable. Why why why would he do this?
Well you know what, let him. Because I actually don't care anymore!! I will be there, on my own, looking fabulous and you know what.....I don't need another person with me to flaunt under his nose! I don't need another person to validate who I am. I could be on my own forever and a day but you know what, I think I am OK, I know I am OK. He thinks he is superior to me, I can see that smug little look on his face....well, shock coming to you Trotters....would he even register the difference in me I wonder?
So, I am going to hold my head up high, remember who I am and let him see that the person he left is not around anymore. The person he met in the first place is back and back to stay, but sincerely and permanently closed for business as far as he is concerened.....and she doesn't need to play or be involved in his stupid little mind games anymore. Take your ball elsewhere loser.
Person I feel sorry for? OW - she surely will feel worse about this than me? And his kids? WTF??? One word, twisted.
I have this same type of
June 29, 2012 - 1:41pm — mystwomanI have this same type of problem with xnh at work sometimes. Unfortunately, we still work for the same company, and I sometimes can't help passing him in the halls, etc. Like your xn, xnh sometimes tries to "narrate" this. If I go visit my best friend on the opposite end of the building, xnh will start pacing back and forth in the hallway using one lame excuse after another. My friend says he NEVER does this if I'm not visiting her. It's a childish show on xnh's part.
My normal behavior (and this is what I would advise for you) is to COMPLETELY ignore the narc. If I pass xnh in the hall, he gets NO responses from me. I do not make eye contact with xnh. I do not speak. I pretend completely that he does NOT exist. The ONLY response he ever gets is for me to step around him, if he blocks my path. I view xnh just like a would see a turd in my way. I step around, not out of respect for the turd (or xnh - the two are the same thing, in my book), but merely because *I* do not want to get any poo on my shoe. Xnh is N-O-T-H-I-N-G, and that is exactly the reaction he gets from me, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.
In your situation, this is exactly how I would advise that you react. Give the narc nothing. Ignore him (and OW) completely. Talk to your daughter (and anyone else around you). Laugh a lot. Be happy. Narcs thrive on attention. He is doing this to put on a "show" and get a reaction from you (ANY reaction will work for him). Don't give him the satisfaction. It's pretty hard to put on a performance when their is no audience. Don't be his. Hold your head up high, and just go about your business. The narc is nothing more than another stinking "road apple" in a horse barn. Step around the turd, and ignore it. At some point, someone will come along with a manure rake, and he will end up on the manure pile with all of the other pieces of crap. Meanwhile, you are off happily grooming your horse with your daughter, and doing what you normally do. YOU are happy and enjoying yourself. The narc is NOT part of it, and he has no power to take any of the enjoyment of your experience away either. That power comes from within YOU.
It can feel uncomfortable underneath to see the narc. Just ignore the feelings. They're your feelings, but the narc does NOT need to see them. You are strong enough to survive his abuse, and you can do this, too. Ignoring the narc, and giving him NO reaction will deprive him of ANY supply. He's wasting his effort, and getting no benefit. THIS is what will eventually cause him to stop this charade. He wants a reaction (supply) from you. YOU have the power to deprive him. It's really best for both you, and your NC, that he gets no reaction (supply). Whatever, he does/does not do, is no longer anything important. He is NOTHING, but another piece of manure that surfaced at a stable (and so is OW). After owning horses for years myself, I know personally that stables are FULL of crap. The narc is merely one more turd, and any horse in the barn can put out higher quality turds than the likes of a narc. rofl.
Huge hugs.
You are so right!! I laughed
June 29, 2012 - 3:50pm — Lucky EscapeYou are so right!! I laughed my way through your reply as I do really see him as some kind of inconvenient crap stuck to my shoe now!!
Thankyou for your post, it has given me even more strength to do this.
I promise all on this forum that he will get no reaction, no eye contact, no nothing from me. To me, he will not exist. Nor will she. Meanwhile I will be doing my thing, with my daughter and being true to me.
I can not help but feel so sorry for her, as I can see the triangulation starting...I had this with his ex-w. And now it's me. Full on sympathy to this poor lady as if she is as much on the hook as I was after 4 months then all the crazy shit is about to start.
However, for me it is truly over, and when I am raking the horse shit up on Sunday, I will look at it and think "you know what, even that is preferable to you Trotters"!!
Thankyou so much mystwoman, your response has really given me that final bit of girl power!! xx
This is like my ex .. joining
June 29, 2012 - 9:38am — tootsgeeThis is like my ex .. joining and attending the same walking group i am in when there are at least 4 others in our city! ... loser! its all about them.... you go girl ! Walk talk and show that sad pathetic piece of crap it doesnt matter to you! You have come so far and now he is just a distant memory who matters very little to you...
Hope you get on ok! xx
I feel most sorry for his
June 29, 2012 - 9:07am — Deidre99I feel most sorry for his kids. They will be screwed up for sure, with bringing new women into their worlds, on a constant basis. But, he doesn't care. He uses his kids as lures, no doubt.
You sound strong! I definitely think it's all a game. It's so sad, they can and never will 'evolve.' They'll always be looking to play the next game, con the next woman/man, rack up a new victim, etc etc etc...
It's sad.
You sound mah-velous though, so good luck and enjoy the time with your daughter! :)
I agree Deidre...his two
June 29, 2012 - 10:53am — Lucky EscapeI agree Deidre...his two girls are growing up thinking that this is "normal" behaviour in a relationship, from start to finish - they will believe life IS a disney fairytale...tragic. Meanwhile, I am showing my daughter that he means nothing and we will still do what WE want to do regardless, she is growing up learning to put herself first hopefully and believe that no person should ever make you feel so bad you can't even be in the same place as them. She saw me 6 months ago, walking around in life like a zombie and not able to get out of bed...what is better for her to see?!
I am definitely still going...I totally refuse to allow him any control anymore. Power, sex and and control, the 3 main motivations for him. In not going he will see that he still has that power over me. He doesn't!!
I can do this, I am ready for it and I am afraid the stubborn and strong girl is back with a vengeance!! LOL!! xx
as an aside
June 29, 2012 - 9:21am — Deidre99that's just plain creepy that he continued riding horses and found a woman who rides them, and looks like you. lol
you know, when we're able to view them objectively, they're an embarrassment. lol seriously, they are.
i now know why i didn't allow my ex to meet my kids, who are teens. they would have laughed themselves silly...and probably sent me away to the looney bin.
anyways...too funny.
I get the whole "I'm not
June 29, 2012 - 8:51am — missymillerI get the whole "I'm not changing for him"....to a degree.
But, he has already engaged you and you are very disturbed by the whole thing...rightly so.
However...I would simply change my time to another time or date. I WOULD not LET him see me, be around me, have that satisfaction of triangulating or humiliating me....whatever BS he might be thinking. You can say all you want that you will not change your life for him. But in the end, this is a hollow engagement and in reality...hurtful for you. Hurtful that you have to get all worked up over it (which you have already done), hurtful that your emphasis will not be on your daughter but on steeling yourself for this and seeing them painfully together...all of it. NOT WORTH IT. Just change it. Voila...he gets no satisfaction, and you are in control of your life and your experience with your daughter.
Absence///Genuine NC///as in NO COMMENT...is the most frustrating thing in the end for them. Putting down the rope and not partaking is the higher road.
You are not avoiding him by doing this. You are simply not allowing him to manipulate you.
Wonderful!
June 29, 2012 - 8:19am — CanadaLucky, yes that is so very lame and pathetic of him to do that. He still has to get attention from you somehow, if not directly then passively. "Look at MEEEE, I'm still HEEEEERE!" So sad how they are still playing the game ALL BY THEMSELVES! But you've got the right attitude, show him how he has NO EFFECT on you, and you WILL look awesome and confident!
XOXO Jules
Lucky Escape
June 29, 2012 - 7:22am — Janie53That a girl, one solution to this problem and it sounds as though you know what it is...
Stay True to You!
xoxoxox
Janie
He's bored with OW .. They
June 29, 2012 - 6:49am — HunterHe's bored with OW .. They cycle every three to six months..
Do not engage..
Hunter
6 months of bliss... gotta laugh
June 29, 2012 - 9:21am — midwestdivaHunter.. thank you!!! As I look back on things you are right six months here, six months there and poof.. gone with the wind... How miserable they must be... lol
Hunter
June 29, 2012 - 8:18am — Lucky EscapeThankyou..The only thing he will get from me is a diva hair flick and the back of me.....I am going to ignore him. Even contempt is a waste of my energy and positivity.