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I know we all deal or have dealt with remembering "the good times" with our former azzwipe N's. For me, they were " real" and very much enjoyed, because I am "real". It was those times which kept hope alive that this r/s had a future and that WB would finally stop the push-pull shit.
Now that the fog is lifting, I am comprehending that these moments of bliss were ALWAYS followed or sometimes preceded by unpleasantries. These incidents were either him being extra grumpy, canceling plans, avoiding intimacy,"forgetting" something important, or, breaking up just before an important event or exciting time for me. Always the ultimate "FU".
How many times did we return home after a wonderful day, dinner, etc., feeling very close and looking forward to a romantic evening...and then he would get a case of the shits and spend the night running in and out of the bathroom, asking me too many times if my stomach was ok from the food we ate??? Too many times.
How often did we return late from a great weekend getaway, with me looking forward to spending one more night with him and have him say "would you mind not staying tonight? I really need to get some rest before work tomorrow." Too many times.
How many times was I getting ready to visit friends or relatives to celebrate birthdays, anniversaries, weddings, etc., and have him pull the plug and leave me spinning and unable to really enjoy the occasion? Too many.
The list could go on and on...but I know you get the idea...now the good times don't always seem to have been so good. Now I cannot imagine doing anything in my life that is good or fun, if I knew something
hurtful would be my punishment. Clarity is such a blessing!
Reason
They truly ruin everything
June 13, 2012 - 5:41pm — MarlinmomMine would always do something weird in advance of something he knew I was looking forward to. Like clockwork. He would suddenly have to change the oil in the car, or run some errand, just enough busyness and clean-up that he would make us late, or I would be scrambling to get ready for people coming over.
Or if all that failed, he'd decide to tell me about some trip that I hadn't been expecting that was going to cause me stress and to have to reorganize my work to take care of the kids for a week by myself. Even when he set up some fun evening or a birthday dinner or got me a really nice gift, he would do something weird to screw it up and then act like here he'd done such a nice thing and as usual I was such an ungrateful bitch. He was 100% incapable of committing a selfless act; if there was no emotional pay-off for him (either kudos or sympathy) he'd invent some convoluted path to get it. Sam V has an interesting video about narcs as compulsive gift-givers and it sent chills through me. Mine would buy me and our girls really nice presents, but never because he really wanted us to be happy, always so that we would thank him and praise him and be grateful. Unless it is a stepping stone to supply, they cannot/will not let themselves enjoy any aspect of a relationship that involves sharing or being happy for someone else.
when we had guests over and were having a great time, he'd often jump up and start washing dishing or cleaning up . . . he knew some woman would invariably say, 'oh you're so lucky to have a helpful husband!'
When I look back I really did have good times and fun with our kids and with our friends; but I also look back and realize that in terms of our relationship he was a saboteur.
Marlin mom
June 13, 2012 - 9:28pm — Reason2BelieveThey are exhausting...despicable and frickin exhausting. Sometimes I actually have a wave of total exhaustion wash over with me when I think about some of the shit. I just want to pound his fat little head into the ground.....ugh.
Hugs,
Reason
Reason...were we with the same
June 13, 2012 - 11:05am — spinningfreak?? (teeheehee). Actually, they're all the same. There is nothing unique about a one of them...they truly are not special in the least.
This post is excellent and I hope it inspires others here. This is what happens with no contact. The fog lifts and clarity ensues. Then you are able to see the TRUTH without trying to sift through the haze. It becomes clearer and clearer.
I no longer look at any of the entire six years of hell with Freak Boy as "good" at all. I actually remember no "good times" because it never was that "good." None of it. I have nothing but disdain for the crumbs I mistook for wonderful experiences. I now know it was designed that way...tossing a "crumb" of a "good time" let him off the hook for the rest of the completely unacceptable, inconsistent, chaotic, hot/cold, push/pull, silent treatment, etc. etc. behavior.
I am so glad you are reaching this tipping point. This is huge and will propel you on your path forward. Great things are in store. The more you sweep out the debris from the disordered one, the more room it makes for amazing things to enter your life.
Love,
(not) spinning. AND IT FEELS GREAT
Wow!
June 16, 2012 - 10:38am — shatttered75'I have nothing but disdain for the crumbs I mistook for wonderful experiences. I now know it was designed that way...tossing a "crumb" of a "good time" let him off the hook for the rest of the completely unacceptable, inconsistent, chaotic, hot/cold, push/pull, silent treatment, etc. etc. behavior..'
Wow! YOU NAILED IT! My God! It makes me want to vomit!
I could not agree more
June 16, 2012 - 11:07am — Jenna HThat sums it up - I have to keep working on my disdain!! :)
Not spinning
June 13, 2012 - 2:04pm — Reason2BelieveI just was thinking a few minutes ago, about all of plans and things I want to do this summer and so relieved to know that I do not have to put up with any mind games or consequences! I can do what I want without wondering what price I will have to pay.
Sigh..of relief!
Reason
Oh yes.....
June 13, 2012 - 10:22pm — LindsayMIf I had to count the amount of times he would expect me to drop everything for him i'd be dizzy right now.... I would be out with my brother, friends,etc,etc and he would expect me to drop everything for him and he would fly of the handle saying darnit ( being PG friendly lol) Lindsay I need you right now and of course you are never there for me ever! ever! Next day he would be all calm and collected like nothing happened..... Other times I would be out and about and he would be Mr. Nice guy and say oh it's okay honey we can hang after you come home ( which I did) once again expecting me to be at home all the time 24/7 like I never ever had a life besides him.... So,so peaceful now..... Oh yes I can add in friend functions too I would be enjoying myself and he would say Lindsay can we umm please go umm I want to go umm you know....I am so horny right now..... I would say I am having a good time and he would but I am so horny and this party is freaking boring come on.... I cannot exactly make-out here....... Why did I ever put up with that? Craziness......
selfishness
June 16, 2012 - 10:04am — redadmiralThese Narcissists really are from outer space just like an alien i have come to the conclusion! I never thought i was being controlled but since the break up which happened overnight after a fantastic day out together and with no arguments, i looked back over the years together and discovered just how controlling they can be. It started off when i first met this guy and said i could not see him on Friday nights because i went out with my girlfriends. Shortly after that statement of mine he arranged engagements for us to go to as a couple and always on a Friday night. Eventually my girlfriends got fed up of me saying i could not go with them to this and that and eventually they fell by the wayside.
He talked a lot about his avchievements and how well thought of at work he was, how he amused everyone there and the women in his department thought he was fantastic. He flattered me, bought me expensive gifts, took me on holidays and life was generally a rollercoaster. But then came the day when he stood in front of me and said he did not want me anymore, his words being 'i am a changed man'! In other words i was surplus to requirements - just like that with no explanation as to why. Of course eventually i discovered there was another women waiting in the wings, someone to flatter him, wait on his every command etc etc which i believe is normal with these cheats and liars, but unfortunately the 'mask' does not slip until you are well into them and have fallen hard.
Thank god i am no longer with the scumbag, i have found a better life without him. And it does get better the longer you are apart. Yes, of course, you look back sometimes on the better parts of the relationship, but life is so peaceful and less stressful when they have found some other poor soul who will eventually be treated just the way you were. Love to everyone suffering from these 'strange people'.