Another Lucky Escape?

Another Lucky Escape?
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Hi all of you, I wanted to ask you all if I got this scenario right? Am I being cynical and too guarded?

I met a guy a couple of weeks ago and went out on a date. My first intrepid adventure since Trotters....I was feeling like I wanted to start and get out there again, start to see if I could trust my instincts and not be too guarded. I wanted to have some fun and a few laughs.

On the face of it, this man seemed to be fairly normal, didn't drink/smoke, had a 4 year old son who he clearly adores. We clicked and got on really well, alot of laughter. He told me alot about himself on that first date, although looking back, maybe he only really divulged what he wanted me to know. He told me he had left his wife last year due to her being abusive towards him and that his divorce was imminent. I probed him on this as here in the UK, unless you can prove unreasonable behaviour/adultery, you have to be separated for over 2 years before a court will grant a divorce. FIRST RED FLAG - he told me that I should google it and that each case is different = Bullshit.

During the week after our date, he started to text and message me constantly, asking what I was up to and if I didn't respond straight away, he would get upset - SECOND RED FLAG = controlling/trantrum like behaviour. He was love-bombing, totally targetting me with texts and words....

I was due to go out with some friends and people I work with one evening, he was working. The friends were due to stay over at mine so that they didn't have to drive - mix of guys and girls but all above board, we are all work colleagues - when this man heard this, he went silent on the phone. I asked him what was wrong and was he jealous? He said that it was good he was as it proved to me he was interested - THIRD RED FLAG - I mean really?? During the night out, he was constantly messaging me, asking me if I was being good and asking me to send him pics of where I was etc.....I couldn't be doing with this, I was out having fun with friends.

By this stage, I was talking to friends about this and whilst some were saying give him a chance, my gut was saying run for the hills and hide.....I felt so uncomfortable.

Now comes the deal breaker, I had told him that I had been through a very emotionally abusive relationship so wanted to be cautious. I wanted to see if he would respect that. He said he was not interested in my past, that my issues were "my issues", that I clearly have "trust" issues and he felt like i was interrogating him and making him feel as if he had done something wrong. Total projection and totally twisting it back on me.

So - I pulled my NC card out, blocked him on my messaging on my phone and deleted his number. Got a text saying "WOW you move fast, blocked me already LOL!". I didn't respond and sat there thinking, OH SHIT, is this really happening??!! Then another text this morning saying "last text, I will delete your number, good luck finding someone, let them show you who they are before you pull them to bits x". I have ignored both and hope that he will just disappear.

I saw who he was - what on earth is going on??? I am 90% sure I called this right...something just didn't stack up, he was defensive when I asked pretty normal questions and whilst I know I was on guard, it seems yet again, that I have attracted a potential abuser....I must have a target on my head!!!

Do you know what is brilliant? Before Trotters I would have fallen for all the love-bombing. But thanks to this forum I feel that I have dodged another bullet. I know I am right, I trust myself first and foremost and if that made HIM feel uncomfortable, then that is his SHIT to deal with.

Amazing, it's empowering but just need a little reassurance that I nailed it - within a couple of weeks too!! x

Lucky Escape's picture

Thanks ALL of you....I have

Thanks ALL of you....I have been searching for an app to block the number, although since the last text have heard nothing so hopefully he has crawled back under the rock he crept out of.

Key learnings for me on this one, divulge NOTHING until you really know someone, clearly he was a master at twisting all of this back and using it against me. I feel so in control though as I would have historically believed that he was just like me!! Open, honest and in it for the right reasons.

I don't regret the experience one little bit, it has just made me even more aware of how you can read the signs, and very early on, that you are with a potential abuser....god, who knew how many of them are out there?

The thing is with this guy, I think he may poss have been violent? You know when you just get that feeling? Something just didn't stack up.

So, yet again, thanks to this amazing site and all you ladies (and gents!) who are here to listen to this and give your great opinions. I am going to continue to try dating, but be very aware of what to look for and how to behave. What happened to me with Trotters will NOT RUIN MY LIFE!!! xx

spinning's picture

Way to go, LE! and way to

listen to and trust your gut!

Here's another gem you pulled out:

"Key learnings for me on this one, divulge NOTHING until you really know someone."

First dates (and many subsequent ones) should be fun, light, easy. No divulging personal things. If a person is a gentleman and is interested, he'll think of ways to engage your interest that doesn't involve dissection of your entire life and vice-versa. Being too probing to a guy about his past relationships is also an indicator to him of what your issues may be and that's divulging, too.

Forming a relationship takes time, time, time. This is the HUGEST THING I learned from the disordered experience, too. All that sudden "love" and "attachment" and "neediness" and constant communication is NOT NORMAL. It's not how healthy people get to know each other.

You made a great call with this one. Feel good about that! Your radar is working just fine and this will serve you very well.

You will attract the kind of person you are becoming with these kinds of boundaries...trust me on this. You will be amazed.

I am glad and proud of you for testing the waters and learning from this. It's all good!

Love,
(not) spinning. AND IT FEELS GREAT

fern's picture

You've done really well, pat

You've done really well, pat yourself on the back. You picked up the red flags, and acted quickly on it before getting suckered into his BS - this should give you more confidence in yourself, your own judgement.

There are a number of paths and just plain weirdos out there sadly but have faith there are lots of good people too and just need to push past all the frogs.

Most important is to have your path radar on, trust your own experiences/gut and get out quick if you see the signs. There are good and decent men out there - just a case of finding them!

I dated a bit after my break up. One guy seemed decent and all on paper, but then he sent me over 22 emails on the day we were to meet for our first date, I was really busy at work which I explained... when I didn't respond within 15 minutes he started getting really shitty. Plus he started to get onto the whole sex thing. I met him very briefly that night and said it was a no-go. That was it... just be aware of the signs and save your heart and head.

For the phone, I've been looking too... it seems the best thing is to jailbreak your iphone and then load iblacklist from the web (google iblacklist and cydia), not from itunes which is no good and not the same thing. I'm going to try and do it tonight.

Take care, go and have some fun and enjoy getting your life back! x

Deidre99's picture

You made the right decision

You made the right decision absolutely! omg...he sounds totally out there.

The divorce thing isn't so much a red flag. In many states here in the U.S. for example, you can get a divorce within 30 days, no separation needed. So, every state is different.

The red flags for me here were asking for pics of where you were, getting jealous (and making it sound like it's a positive thing), and just overall fighting with you, right from the get go.

Bad signs.

I swear, if a man asks for me to email/text him pics of myself ever again, I'm deleting him out of my life. I had a LDR with my last ex N and he would ask for pics, and he would use them to toy with me. Never again.

No reason to send pics. (if the person knows what you look like anyways lol)

Good for you for pushing this one out!

DawnWins's picture

YES!!! Good for you

YES!!! Good for you recognizing the flags, there are more here than a freakin' parade!

Excessive texts/calls in first week...not good. Texting you while you were out....control freak.

On the deal breaker part, when you are starting new, or any relationship for that matter...DO NOT mention that you have suffered abuse....never...never....never. The Ns tuck that away in their arsenal for use at a later convenient time for THEM. They use it against you.

I often wonder how I'd do on a first date again, you are not supposed to talk about your past LOL!!

fern's picture

same thing

same thing has crossed my mind...you don't want to sound like damaged goods or give an alert to any other N/P because hopefully by that point you're pretty much recovered anyway...

what do you say, he wasn't great at communicating (!!), a little selfish (hmmm)... maybe we wanted different things out of life??!

fern's picture

Good gut instincts!

Well done for trusting your gut instincts.. definitely did the right thing.

Know what you mean about target on our heads... they are very good at detecting and reading people... an element of mistrust would give them an idea you've been hurt before.

The mistrust is good and healthy.. you gave him a chance, kept your boundaries and finished it, well done! And better luck next time with someone who will treat you well and the way you deserve.

I'm not sure but I'm guessing you might have an iphone like me...I've been trying to find some application to block calls and SMS messages like verizon but not sure it works. There's iblacklist but that has terrible reviews.

In the meantime, I have had him down as a number of satisfying swear words and names,a photo of an ugly demon attached to put me off plus the ring tone is a baby crying and Darth Vada breathing for SMS texts. Like someone else said here on the site, it's like that scene from Harry Potter where you imagine them into being something ridiculous...as they truly are.

As soon as I find the right app, I'll get back to you. If I can't find anything I may then have to change my number which I'm loathed to do as I've had this number for over ten years but we'll see. So much hassle for a little prick (literally too).

Emma's picture

Iblacklist works. I use it.

Iblacklist works. I use it.

fern's picture

great, I'll try that

great, thanks - I'll give that a go now!

On the reviews it had one star and everyone said it doesn't work but maybe they weren't doing it properly

thanks again!

Wallace's picture

Lucky Escape

You called it right! This guy is raising so many red flags and you identified them all. NC NC NC! Well done!

Used's picture

How are his messages getting

How are his messages getting thru?, If he is blocked?

Emma's picture

You blocked him but his

You blocked him but his massages were coming thru still?!?