Why do I hate myself??

Why do I hate myself??
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It has been a while since I've been on here. I thought I had it all solved, and then I didn't and then I was in the midst of it all again.

I don't even know how long I've been re engaged with him. But it of course has been hell. I mean, there weren't any moments where things were good. It was all bad. He kept getting so mad that I ended it. He would beg me to try again, so that he could fix what he did wrong. At this point, I knew I would never leave my husband to be with him. I told him that. But he was in pure denial. It was so strange. It became clearer and clearer to me that he was not living in reality. But I went along with it, thinking I could somehow show him that it wasn't going to work and that it was over. I guess that makes me crazier than he is.

So it got bad. I wouldn't contact him. He started making vague threats. I told him I was going to call the police. He went ballistic. Then he went to a rehearsal he knew I would be attending and tried to get me to quit the play (why??) and he insisted I talk to him and work this out. I was terrified of him. I said I would meet him after just to get him to leave, then I texted him to say I wouldn't. I had people walk me to my car, but they would have anyway. Everyone was wondering who this scary man who was not my husband was.

I know I am supposed to block him, but I have done that, and he always gets through. I am also afraid to block him now, because I am afraid of what he might do. On top of this all I happened to randomly find out last night (really, it was a fluke) that there was a time when he was with me when he was heavily pursuing another woman. Someone was talking about texts she'd seen someone get, saying all the kinds of things that he had said to me. This woman was married too.

It was good that I heard that. I feel stung, and stupid, but I needed to hear that.

But really, I can't figure out why I hate myself so much that I would do this to myself, and keep prolonging it. I just want my old life back. I made a stupid, horrible mistake, and feel like maybe I don't deserve a good life. I don't know. Now I'm just rambling and feeling sorry for myself...

Deidre99's picture

Guilt is a very heavy cross

Guilt is a very heavy cross to carry. I know this to be true.

I think you might feel guilty because you were married, while you dated the narc. As you say, you made a mistake with this guy, and now, you just need to trudge forward to work on your marriage, if in fact you wish to keep it.

I think that's what a lot of this is about. Ending a volatile relationship with a narc is hard enough, but compounding it with the fact that you are married, (I think) is what's causing you to 'hate yourself.'

Don't hate yourself. This will not be painful forever. You learned and you will grow. If you want your marriage, I hope it works out, and brings you happiness.

Walkingonsunshine's picture

Reading your post makes me so

Reading your post makes me so thankful that when I got to that unbeatable point of ultimate pain, I just accepted it and allowed it to occur. It makes me sad that you aren't able to do the same. Everyone here will tell you that the acute unmanageable pain does finally fade, you just have to trust ppl here that your experience will be the same if you ride it through the pain. It fades...will all know it. Trust the process, aim for the ending, feel the pain, you have no choice, he's an n , he screwed u over, he will never love you. Let it go.

LindsayM's picture

I hated myself too.....

Thanks to healing everyday and growing as a person I am getting stronger everyday and this wonderful site helps too. Remember he will never change and I hate to remember that and he is with the OW now and guess what? She is not lucky no,no,no! She didn't get the prize oh yes I got Lindsay's man look at me ha,ha! No! She is not lucky at all...... If anything she didn't win a prize at all....... She has to deal with all of the BS I had to put up with everyday and now guess what she is the lucky one who gets to deal with it and do you think he has changed and do you think for one split second your ex has changed? No......... They never ever change! Never ever hate yourself ever and never ever,ever blame yourself for the way things happened that is him he is the jerk and always will be the jerk.

Needshelp's picture

Thank you all. I think a big

Thank you all. I think a big problem with me too is that I just don't seem able to sit with the pain. I can'y stop crying and I start to feel like I will never feel better, so on some level too that makes me re engage. I am at a very low point right now. I just have to suck it up though and feel it.

Goldie, what time is the group, and what is the cost?

Hunter's picture

You know this is why you are

You know this is why you are having a problem..

Goldie provided the info.. Did you read the link she provided.. The cost .. The date.. It's all out there..

We can't fix this for you.. You have to do the work.. And if you don't you will be very sorry..

You make excuses not to block him.. " he gets thru" you can Change your number .... Find different hobbie.or get a job.. The fist step is to stay away from him..

I've said this before you like the drama... When you make the decision to get real for good you will.. It make take rolling the gutter.. I see that is the direction you are headed..

Usually I love to say I told you so but in this case.. I hope I'm wrong..

Hunter.

Needshelp's picture

Oh Hunter, I hope you are

Oh Hunter, I hope you are wrong too!

I did message Goldie about the group. I've already done one group. I seem to be very resistant.

I know this is hard to believe, since my actions prove otherwise, but prior to this, I never had drama in my life. I always judged people who invited it into their lives, and now I am one of them.

How do I get to a place where I truly want to be done? I feel that I am there, but obviously I can't trust myself!

You are so right about my excuses for why I do not block him. Truly though, more than anything I am scared of him. When I don't respond, he does things like show up at my rehearsal. If I were to truly block him, I would expect him to show up at my house next, and confront my husband. I just have to block him though, right??

Janie53's picture

Needshelp

Believe it or not feeling is healing. Unfortunately, you have to de-tox from the narc and then you can start to heal. Please don't be too hard on yourself during this time. Actually, spoil and nurture yourself. Allow yourself to feel any emotions you have knowing that in time, they will pass. No, there is not a quick fix here, but more importantly, you need to know you can have a happy and fulfilling life after the wrath of a narc when you do the work.

Start reading and join Goldie's group. You are worth it!
Stay true to you!

Janie

goldie's picture

All the details about the group are right on my blog

And you can also find it on the top of the 1-3 forum.

http://lisaescott.com/2012/05/06/new-support-group-join-now-weekly-suppo...

The group begins @ 9 pm EST on Mondays, Starting JUNE !!, 2012 and is 149.00 which includes a one on one, the book, and all the group sessions. You can order the group right at the top of my blog. Goldie's Blog on the left side of the page here.

God bless,
Goldie

fallingfoward's picture

Needshelp...

I am sorry to hear that you went through this. But forgive yourself, you are worth so much more than all of this drama.

I read what Goldie said and totally agree with her. If you can do the support group, the one on one with Goldie will help you greatly.

At first when I started this journey, I didn't think it would take me long to recover, at least not a year or two like the mods have stated. But as I continue on my road towards healing I see now why they say that (even my counseler tells me that). It takes some deep inner work to heal the wounds of the narc and the issues from our past that lets us settle for this illusion of love.

Don't percieve it as a bad thing, but rather look at it as a journey of wholeness and self-discovery. You are worth that and more. You are a beautiful soul worthy of a good life and loving relationships.

Go NC, you wonderful lady, love yourself. You can win this battle inside yourself, the answers are within you. At first I didn't know how to start, but with each step I take I am being to be set free.

NC is a must, there are no shortcuts or an easier way out of this. I've been on the forum since December, and have seem many woman return. My counseler and Goldie both told me unless the work is done, we are most likely to repeat this type of relationship with other men or go back to the narc.

I know you desire to be set free from this, or you would not be on this forum. Chose yourself today, you are not crazy, it is a addiction and you can break free. We are here to support.

hugs
xoxo
ff

TruthbeginsToday's picture

Ok...so you had to know

Now you know. I'm so sorry.

If you aren't sure...you'll remain confused and allow him to harm you even more. READ, get educated from all the help here and anywhere else you can. Talk about it..ask questions, whatever it takes to be SURE and confident in your decisions.

About the fear and the fallout...He is going to do or say things..REGARDLESS of what YOU do. I know that often we have a false sense of control with these people but the TRUTH is we DON"T. It does not matter what YOU say or do...show him right from wrong, ask, beg, plead etc...He will do what he wants. DO not engage. Go No contact.

Are you afraid that you will SEE who he really is?Of what he will do?

I know that I was afraid ...the shock of the truth is painful and the things he is about to do will be as well.

Be safe and go NC.

I pray for strength for you.

I'm so sorry for the pain this is causing you. Hang in there.

Truth

goldie's picture

There are a varity of things going on here

This sounds like PTSD for one, you allow a situation to transpire where you feel fear, and then you become almost paralyzed to do anything about it.

To say that you are afraid to block him and yet the alternative of having him torment you seems better, is definately OLD STUFF buried within you.

Also on some level you must be addicted to the adrenaline rush which is caused by his insane and obvious manipulation of you.

The highs and lows this drama creates in you must be addictive to you on some level. Certainly takes you away from your mundane daily life and propels you into a life of continuous intruque and grasping for that ever elusive carrot.

What's going to happen next? Maybe he will change and LOVE ME like a "normal" person if ONLY I can figure this out and fix it somehow.

This has become an addicton for you on a physical, mental, and emotional level.

THE ONLY way to break this pattern and to end the cycle of abuse is for YOU to go COLD TURKEY. Get a restraining order and get this living nightmare OUT OF YOUR LIFE and then do the work on YOU, to get to the bottom of just what is driving you back to the insanity.

The TRUTH of the matter is that this man is a sick twisted crazy person and for whatever reason he has become YOUR DRUG.

And like with any addiction the ONLY solution is NO CONTACT, no dealings whatsoever. If he gets through, YOU HANG UP, if he stalks you; YOU call the police.

This ENDS when YOU end it and not a second sooner. HE GETS OFF on this cat and mouse game because he is a sick twisted fuck. HE is NOT going to end it, YOU NEED TO DO THIS.

Of course he has OW, he always did, anyone this sick in the head is going to be playing the same mind games with many. HE LIES, HELLO, you cannot believe a single word that comes out of his mouth. He is a preditor and you are his prey. It is NOT anymore complicated then that.

He is NOT your lover, NOT your friend, NOT your husband, NOT your bf, HE IS NOTHING to you aside from your abuser and tormenter. PERIOD.

There is NOTHING loving, spiritual, real, gentle, or meaningful here. This is simply a crazy man who get OFF on pushing your buttons.

This guy is human waste, I have known this for a LONG time, NOW YOU , need to know and believe this and do something about ending it NOW.

This type of thing NEVER EVER has a happy ending, just more of the same and in most cases WORSE behaviors.

I have ONE MORE spot left in the Support Group beginning on MONDAY, JUNE 11, why don't you join and get the support you need in ending this ONCE AND FOR ALL.

You are in my heart and prayers, I remember your story well and have been hoping you would come back and get the help you need.

God bless,
Goldie

spinning's picture

Wow, Goldie, this is the TRUTH

...so well put. The absolute truth here, dear needshelp.

I hope and pray that you will go NC and that you will join the support group so you can break free.

Please read and re-read this post. Please.

Sincerely,
(not) spinning

janemarie's picture

I hope you learned!!!!! The

I hope you learned!!!!!

The only way to begin "getting your life back" as you stated is to erase them comepletely from your life!!!!!

And I hope you dont take my next statement the wrong way BUT.....not blocking him because he "still gets thru" or because "you are afraid" are just excuses!!!!! Being in contact or allowing him to be able to contact you IS CAUSING YOU PAIN!!!!!! YOU KNOW IT...I KNOW IT.....EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT!!!!!

You state that you hate yourself.....So do something about it Needshelp!!!!!!

You are on this site for a reason....for a while youve been part of this.....Its time for you to put the victim away and start DOING!!!!!

I want to see you succeed...I want to see you push passed this nightmare of your life.....and you know what to do...

Block this bastard....phone, emails, fb, everywhere!!!!!

Take control and LOVE YOURSELF AGAIN!!!!!!

NO EXCUSES!!!!

XOXO