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How do you learn to trust people again?
Armed with my new-found and ever growing knowledge, I am finding that I "look" for traits in people now. This is not a bad thing essentially as clearly my boundaries are in place and I am starting to ask different questions, of myself and others. It is difficult not to see hidden agendas in people....it's like I am viewing life through a different lens all of a sudden.
The people I love and trust are appreciated so much more, but if I meet anyone new, I am finding that it is taking me alot longer to trust, to totally be myself.
Is this something which is a normal part of the journey? I have always been intrinsically trusting...I guess this has been my problem historically. However, I don't like being judgemental, i am listening to my instincts but also worry that I may be unfair with my opinions - does this make sense?
Any thoughts???
I 'trusted' again, and went
June 9, 2012 - 1:36pm — Deidre99I 'trusted' again, and went on a few dates with a guy recently. Found out he has a serious gf. lol
If it weren't so sad, it'd be funny.
Going to a party tonite, and just gonna have some fun. I will say, despite the recent last two jerks...I won't dub all men to be horrible douchebags. lol ;) I don't need a man to define me anymore, and to me...that's just a beautiful thing.
I would have tolerated this perhaps a year or two ago. But, no more.
Progress ladies & gents, progress!
and to add... regarding your
June 9, 2012 - 1:38pm — Deidre99and to add...
regarding your queston lucky...about learning to trust.
i don't think it's something we can 'learn.' i think you have to heal, and then test the waters, and see where you're at. if you are not ready to trust, you're not ready. it's nothing to feel bad about.
i felt bad about my lack of trust for a while, but no more. it was part of the healing process.
i may always have trust issues, and frankly, it's a good thing...because i was way too fucking trusting before. which led me straight into the depths of narc-ville.
Trust Yourself.
June 9, 2012 - 11:56am — abrevaI think one of our most powerful tools is our instincts, and when we've been taught to ignore that or chosen to ignore it, we render ourselves powerless.
If your pendulum has swung too far into the Mis-Trust, so be it. You will learn.
Trust yourself.
Lucky Escape, I understand
June 8, 2012 - 10:52am — Looking AheadLucky Escape, I understand exactly how you feel. I, too, see things through a different "lens" these days, and I don't think that is a bad thing at all.
It IS amazing how suddenly those we have always trusted become so much more treasured. This is HUGE to me.
As for others... I would say that I am not necessarily "mistrustful" of everyone, it's just that others now need to EARN my trust. It is not just automatically handed over. I guess I am sort of "neutral" about people until that trust has been earned. And because of all we have learned through the narc experience, I feel I am in a much better place for determining whom I should and shouldn't trust. This is a much healthier place to be. We should NEVER trust ANYONE unconditionally. We have all learned the hard way that there are a lot of bad people out there. This is the world we live in.
Big hug to all you fabulous ladies =)
You work on and learn to trust YOURSELF
June 8, 2012 - 10:18am — goldieAnd the rest will fall into place. Once you learn to trust YOU, your feelings, your instincts, your higher self, these clowns will not be able to gain entrance into your precious world.
This is an inside job.
God bless,
Godlie
Trusting again is one of the
June 8, 2012 - 9:58am — mystwomanTrusting again is one of the big issues I've been coping with myself. Once your trust has been broken, you are very well aware that it CAN happen to you and that it HURTS. Thus, is it can be hard to let yourself really trust someone again. In my case, I can trust certain people and some of them I can even trust enough to be really vulnerable with. However, I do have some people that I still have problems with (specifically men in close intimate relationships - I tend to only let them get just so close to me, and then I start pushing them away out of fear). This was the arena where I got hurt the worst by both my first psychopath husband, and xnh. They both deliberately betrayed my trust for them in every possible way. It is the most difficult type relationship for me to trust again.
My solution to work on this issue (along with my anger issues at xnh) was that I've been seeing a therapist for several months now. It IS helping me immensely. In my case, I firmly believe that I was vulnerable to xnh because of my own weak boundaries, and that fact that he is a complete predator. I was very lonely at the time I met xnh, and I probably had a great, big "narc attracting" target right in the middle of my back that xnh saw very clearly. Then, because I did not follow my gut, ignored all of the red flags about him, and did not enforce good boundaries for myself, I became snagged in the black widow's web instead of walking away like I needed to protect myself. Thus, among the areas my therapist is having me do serious work on are BOUNDARIES and TRUST. I'm finding they are intertwined.
She has recommended two books for me to read. I've recently read them both, and find that they both are VERY helpful to me. They both contain a LOT of good, solid, useful information. Therefore, I'll recommend them here to you, in case you're interested. They are:
"Boundaries" (When to say yes, how to say no to take control of your life) by John Townsend and Henry Cloud
and
"Beyond Boundaries: Learning To Trust Again In Relationships" by John Townsend
I hope any of this helps you some. :)
Hug huges.
Thanks so much for the book
June 9, 2012 - 11:29am — Lucky EscapeThanks so much for the book tips, have just ordered and gonna add them to ever growing pile!! xx
Thanks for the books to
June 8, 2012 - 10:10am — DawnWinsThanks for the books to read....I know I have a lot of work to do with the boundaries issues.
And as for trust....at the moment I don't feel I'll ever trust again, but who knows, I'll give it a few years before I try again.
LE we are empaths and I
June 8, 2012 - 9:23am — LoserFreeLE we are empaths and I strongly believe that we trust and give of ourselves more than the average person. Then the Narc came along and sucked those (many more) good traits out of us. They left us with scars that are very REAL. And the sick thing is they know it. They saw how we changed towards the end and they could care less about what they did to us!! I bet they probably get off on thinking they are so powerful to affect us the way they did.
So now we are in recovery to search deep inside and to get "us" back. To get what the Narc stole from us so shamelessly. People that have never experienced the manipulation of a N/P don't keep trusting and giving of themselves. But we gave and trusted over and over and over again and we allowed ourselves to keep the manipulation going for some reason. We kept believing these freaks because of our good nature as empaths.
We will trust again just not as freely anymore. I think that is a good thing because it is a big part of why we are all here on the Path Forward. Right now it is all so new, but I believe one day we will be able to balance this all out in a very positive and healthy way. It won't be so confusing once the fog completely lifts and we are in a "good place" again.
We have to trust what the veterans say that we will OK in time......
HUGS
LoserFree
it makes total sense
June 8, 2012 - 8:55am — lessonlearnedsad to admit that even now i have flashes of "can i really believe and/or trust this person???" when it wouldn't even be an issue for people who have never had the pleasure of knowing a N.
the test i like to give is "do the words match the actions?" this was a big issue for the N, as his mouth would run with lofty words & promises, none of which ever panned out.
in my opinion, you are establishing & using your boundaries wisely. trust should be earned, not given. this is a lesson we have all had to learn in a devastatingly hard way.
((hugs))
Trust comes a long way.....
June 8, 2012 - 8:37pm — LindsayMI think before I can fully trust someone again after getting my heart broken into a million little pieces I need to work on myself and after I work on myself I can start maybe dating again and I slowly date again then I can slowly start trust people again because trust comes a long,long way and once someone breaks that trust at least for me anyways I do not let anyone in for a long,long time.