Major Suffering - Psychopath destroyed my relationship with my beloved Family Member

Major Suffering - Psychopath destroyed my relationship with my beloved Family Member
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This is a huge mess of words, but I am really hurting about this and I want to STOP hurting over it. I want to shut the door on it, and be done.

My FM (Family Member) sabotaged my custody evaluation -- it's a sick story, quite unbelievable. The Psychopath had EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT. Psychopaths will do ANYTHING to win.

FM isn't innocent. FM has problems.
Psychopath took FM's weakness and exploited them to his benefit, and my detriment. With no respect for MY relationship with FM.

Psychopath was always jealous of my relationship with FM.

Details aren't important. But I believe FM's involvement and sabotage of my custody evaluation resulted in nearly a 50/50 split of custody, and without this horrible event I would have gotten a custody situation that was much better for the children and for me. I have a little more than 50% custody.

Even after the revealing of the betrayal, the FM continues to interact with the Psychopath. FM always talked horribly about the psychopath. What a horrible father he was. What a criminal he was. How he drugged me. How he was gay. FM was right. FM helped me out of the marriage. But when it all came down, it is FM who stuck the knife in me.

????????

It's very sick, and I am sick over it.
The betrayal is huge, and it is costing me daily.
Somedays I am fine about it, I am strong. But the problem in my heart never really goes away, the loss never goes away.

The betrayal happened well over a year ago, and I discovered the truth about it last summer.

I have lost my FM over the exnh-psychopath. FM was a huge part of my life, very important, daily. I arranged my life to include FM in it. Losing FM has been much more of a heartbreak than my marriage, because I thought my relationship with FM was unable to be lost.

FM was always difficult, but I thought FM was manageable.

I don't know how much of a problem FM is without being under the influence of Psychopath.

Psychopath took great pleasure in destroying the relationship between FM and me, and considers it to be a great win, and loves to rub the salt in my wound -- though I never let Psychopath know he is getting to me.

I am clear that I can't have a relationship with FM, because of the betrayal. Given the chance to sabotage me again, I think FM would do it. I can't understand why. I wish I lived FAR FAR FAR away from all of these crazy people. I feel very unsafe, though not physically unsafe. Just emotionally unsafe, and very wounded by the loss.

And also alone. Psychopath has my children too much of the time. FM chooses to spend time with the Psychopath. And I am winded by it all, and embarrassed by it. I am shamed by it.

After the betrayal was revealed, I shone a light on it, and FM reacted oddly, there was much drama and some communication between us. FM failed to take responsibility for it. FM concocted a barely plausible story in an attempt to look less awful, but it backfired in my eyes.

FM continued to interact with Psychopath - inexplicably. FM continued to act as his proxy for sabotage. I don't know how malicious it was -- it may have been foolish. I can't tell.

I have communicated boundaries to FM. I have made it clear that I won't have a relationship with someone who interacts with the Psychopath. I communicated this concisely, without anger. FM continues to ignore these boundaries. Therefore, I have essentially gone NC with FM, except on matters of my children.

I have withheld communicating my heartbreak and disappointment for months. Under the advisement of many of you and my friends, I have withheld the emails that I write over and over and over and over. When I feel awful about it, I write an email. Carefully crafted, concise. I write and I do not send.

I really want to send it. I really want to make it clear that I am done. To stop contacting me. It's over.

I want the suffering to stop. I feel FM pulling at me -- every 2 weeks there's another begging email "I will always love you." "I just want to see your face. Please." Yet, FM continues to engage with the psychopath.

TruthbeginsToday's picture

Abreva

I am so, so deeply sorry. I know this pain oh so well and it hurts more when it's a FM especially one you trusted. It's the ultimate betrayal.

I just posted about the hard truth with FM's. I spent 4 years after I was betrayed...blaming my N for FM's betrayal.

I did not want to believe that my FM's could be sick too. I CHOSE to see them as victims while they were harming me. I am now seeing the truth because enough time has passed for the FM to see their error and the pain it has caused me.

I am so sorry. This is almost unbearable pain for me and I know it is for you too....but the FM isn't who they appeared to be.

It's hard to see it in those we love and invest in.

My heart goes out to you.

Janie53's picture

Abreva

Hi Abreva-

It sounds as though this FM is not the person you thought he/she was. This person has betrayed you, backstabbed you and is involved with the psychopath. All of these reasons point to someone who should not be in your life. Could this family member be a narc as well?

In any case, he/she isn't healthy for you and will weigh you down. Grieve as needed, sad as it is, but we all need to weed the caustic people out of our lives. I think once you accept the reality of who this person really is, you will be able to continue to move forward.

You have done so well and come so far. This journey, I believe, is life long. Keep up the good work!
Stay true to you Abreva!

xoxoxo
Janie

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I can't accept it. I haven't yet.

"I think once you accept the reality of who this person really is, you will be able to continue to move forward."

Hi Janie,

You know, I haven't accepted it. I can not. I can not wrap my mind around it yet.

Contact = Pain -- I know this.
Every single time I hear from my children that FM is interacting with Psychopath - it's contact and it hurts me.
Every time FM sends me an email - begging me to interact -- it hurts me.
My friends are like, You have to stop letting this put you into a spin.

I don't spin much over the psychopath any more. That's really wound down. He's an idiot, and I consider him such a dweeb that his attempts to control me are laughable. It's often Funny As Hell.

I can't see any humor in it about my FM. It's so abnormal. I feel like FM is trapped in some way and needs help out. I feel like the Psychic Cord between us is strong and FM is pulling on me. I really want to be done with it.

In some ways NOT having FM in my life has been a blessing. FM was a real black cloud in my life. But I've learned boundaries. FM continues to break boundaries with me, since FM keeps sending me "I Love You and Miss You" emails. Seriously? How much more clear do I have to be?

So, I'm thinking about an Ultimatum email -- it's Psychopath or Me -- or I am done with you. Do I think any good will come out of it? Probably NO. I think it's very likely that FM will continue to interact with the psychopath. I think it FM chooses that, then I think I will be free. I think I will get it. I think that will be good.

I have been afraid that any email I send to FM would someday be used against me. I am tired of being afraid. I have to live my life without the fear of being dragged back into court over opinionated NON-Sense that has NOTHING to do with parenting. Psychopath used anything he could conjure to threaten and control me. Currently he has my FM under his control. He "Wins" -- whatever. Let him. But, I need to be finished. And I'm not finished yet.

Janie53's picture

Hi Abreva

I would recommend, at least for now, to give it a little more time. You are upset and it might make sense to feel a bit clearer before you do anything. Is it fair for me to assume the FM is on your side of the family?

It is complicated because you really don't know exactly what lies the psychopath is feeding him/her. Remember what a brilliant actor he was with you. If you really value this relationship and think it would be in your best interest and healthy for you to have this person in your life, wait until you are less upset. Before you act, really give some thought to exactly what you want because this may alter the way you approach this person.

I very recently had a similar episode with a FM and was ready to write this person off. I addressed a few things and everything got very heated. I reassessed the situation and now we are on the same page and are looking at the situation for exactly what it was, family triangulation! Narcs often show favoritism and pit the others against each other...Yet another lesson I learned on my path forward.

You have worked so hard to get to where you are. Take your time, there is no rush. Better to get it right in the end.

Thinking of you!
Stay true Abreva!

Janie

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It's been 16 months.

Janie,

Thanks for walking this with me.

Yes, there really is no rush. I've waited a year and a half on the matter already. I've been very grateful that I've delayed. I'm thinking it's time to have the come to Jesus moment with the FM.

FM hated the Psychopath. Totally sympathized with me. Helped me. Raged against him. I couldn't get FM to shut up about it. FM got overly stressed about my divorce and flipped out after I left him. It was a slow flipping-out. Then one day FM broke, and threatened to sabotage my custody evaluation. I reacted harshly to that (rightfully so -- but not in my best interest in hindsight).

FM did sabotage the custody evaluation, foolishly, but I'm doubtful that it was intentional. It was intentional sabotage by the Psychopath, however. Win at any cost. He even told FM that in an email.

So, Psychopath betrayed FM too. Yet, FM chooses Psychopath. Weird.

FM thinks they are smarter than Psychopath, and doesn't see the need to hold tongue or have NC with Psychopath (clearly).

I'm not going to knee jerk this situation. I'm posting here before I do anything. Posting here about it last night has already given me a huge shift in perspective about how to approach this. I'm in a completely different place than I was yesterday. Much less a victim about it.

Sounds like you threw down with your FM, and it turned out okay. That's great.

I sent you a PM too.

Thanks,

Abreva.

mes6268's picture

You have to greive this

You have to greive this relationship just as you have grieved the loss of your marriage. I am new to this site...not sure of your whole story. I know the the bits and pieces I have read on here that you are a strong, capabale woman. You are dealing with an inhuman person, in my opinion.

Your FM who hurt you so bad, going NC is the best way. Maybe your family member is a bit of a narcissist. Sounds to me like they are.

I know there are days where you get sick of hearing "stay strong"..."you can do this". I know I do. But I hope you can appreicate the bad days with the good. There is no doubt in my mind that this FM made the wrong choice. Do you want to forgive and move on with this person in your life? Are they worthy of your friendship? You have to make the call on that.

But if you feel betrayed(which I would definitely) then take your time to grieve this and when you feel better about it then you can decide what the next step is.

Remember you hold the key to making your life easier and you allow whether people can be a part of it or not.

Take your time. Greive. Heal. Feel better.

Sorry you are going to through this. I can relate to this FM betrayal. I am NC right now with a stbx FM who supported and gave me hope. And then one day, she took that all away.

Hugs to you....

abreva's picture

Thank you.

"I am NC right now with a stbx FM who supported and gave me hope. And then one day, she took that all away."

Yes. Exactly. I would like to hear your story if you would like to share it. Here, or Private Message.

I appreciate your words of encouragement. I think feeling alone with this is the hardest thing. Out in the "real world" people don't talk about this stuff. I'm so tired of having the most dramatic story. It's boring to be the person with the interesting and messed up life.

I feel like NC with FM isn't actually resulting in resolution for me.

After I posted, I went through some of the old emails -- it's been such a stupid email war -- between FM and Psychopath -- and it's JUST SO STUPID. I kind of feel like getting back in the ring with FM, because I'm just sitting with all this upset and EATING it (literally). I'm quietly drowning in my own sorrow. I dress it up to be okay -- on the surface it is -- but I'm boiling underneath. I need to get it out. It's just such a mind mender. And again, my children are caught up in it, so I can't just say "See Ya!" and move 3000 miles away. I have to deal with these people. FM isn't going to go away -- FM has entrance into my life because of my children. Damn it.

mes6268's picture

"I kind of feel like getting

"I kind of feel like getting back in the ring with FM, because I'm just sitting with all this upset and EATING it (literally). I'm quietly drowning in my own sorrow. I dress it up to be okay "

I personally think you are healing...you are getting some feeling to get back in the ring with your FM. You want that. I get it. This person you obviously hold in high regard or you want never ever want them back in your life.

I think you are on the path forward with this FM. It may not happen overnight, but you are healing from the utmost betrayal they could have done to you.

Will you be able to trust this FM again? Are you willing to put yourself on the line again with this fm? What if they do it again, some way, somehow? Are you prepared for this?

You will when you are ready. Your inward feelings are starting to come back. Give it time. Make sure you are ready because I sure as hell don't want this FM t shit on you again. That would be bad.

Iam a forgiving person in general. It's easier for me to forgive and let go. But I also get shit on very easily!

You have to protect yourself and your children. First and formost.

I think it goes back to time....you need the time. What you have said here tonight is a step in the right direction on forgiving your FM. You will get there. but they better PROVE to you that you and your children are worthy of thier love!

abreva's picture

I actually think it's ruined

I actually think it's ruined with FM. I just can't believe it. Clearly FM has major problems or FM wouldn't be doing this. It's just such a heartbreak.

It's so destroyed that I don't think there is any way to repair it. I just hate sitting on my feelings.

And there's nothing to protect. Like the Psychopath, the FM will make up whatever and do whatever, so there's nothing to protect.

I just want it OFF of me. I want it clear that I'm done and outraged.

My expectation is that FM will D&D like the psychopath. I want it DONE.

Right now it's halfway played out. Like I'm still in the tunnel -- and I have to get to the other side of it.

I've done the silence thing for a while now, and there's no resolution.

It's kind of like I'm going through all my old belongings and purging the stuff that reminds me of them -- the FM and the psychopath.

It's even occurred to me that maybe they've had an affair???? or something really sick that I can't even imagine.

mes6268's picture

i did post a bit of my story

i did post a bit of my story yesterday in the share my story section. It was bit of it and I am starting to see some traits in my NH that I never realized before.

My stbx MIL was supporting me and helping me get through the first time my NH left me and the kids. Then, I started to set some boundaries after he left the second time and she turned on my, screamed at me in front of my kids and half the block:

"I feel sorry for you. You are the most vendictive, manipulative, full of hatred person I have ever met. You are so ridicioulous".

I know, nowhere near what you have encountered but I am in the early stages not even divorced and she crushed me and my spirit. I have never ever been called any of those names ever in my life by anyone. She did it in front of my kids and half the neighborhood and she humilated me.

I can be all those if she wants me too. But I am pretty sure she doesn't....!

How do you PM on this site?

abreva's picture

Private Message

go to the home page --

then FAR down on the right hand side of the page will be your info - including MESSAGES.

mes6268's picture

You have to greive this

You have to greive this relationship just as you have grieved the loss of your marriage. I am new to this site...not sure of your whole story. I know the the bits and pieces I have read on here that you are a strong, capabale woman. You are dealing with an inhuman person, in my opinion.

Your FM who hurt you so bad, going NC is the best way. Maybe your family member is a bit of a narcissist. Sounds to me like they are.

I know there are days where you get sick of hearing "stay strong"..."you can do this". I know I do. But I hope you can appreicate the bad days with the good. There is no doubt in my mind that this FM made the wrong choice. Do you want to forgive and move on with this person in your life? Are they worthy of your friendship? You have to make the call on that.

But if you feel betrayed(which I would definitely) then take your time to grieve this and when you feel better about it then you can decide what the next step is.

Remember you hold the key to making your life easier and you allow whether people can be a part of it or not.

Take your time. Greive. Heal. Feel better.

Sorry you are going to through this. I can relate to this FM betrayal. I am NC right now with a stbx FM who supported and gave me hope. And then one day, she took that all away.

Hugs to you....

TruthbeginsToday's picture

I am going through exactly

I am going through exactly the same thing. I bounce back and forth with my thinking. Is my FM a victim...? could be, as I know how good a performer my xN/P was but then I know that my FM knows how much damage was done to me... and still continues to hurt me....back and forth for 4 years now. I constantly want to confront it...then I want to discuss it...then I want it out of my life. I go round and round... forgiving,hoping and waiting....but there are no signs of hope...but yet I'm still torn.

HOW are we supposed to KNOW?

I am keeping a close eye on this topic...I don't know how to manage all of this either. I too want it put to rest so I can move on...I'm so tired of the guessing game. I want the truth... but it always seems so elusive.

abreva's picture

Also tired of the cycle -- the spinning.

Truth,

Maybe we can figure this out together. I go through that same cycle you described, over and over and over. I want it done. I want resolution.

Abreva.

TruthbeginsToday's picture

I'm here

I agree...we can.

I think we should keep going...asking and sharing. For the first time in my life...I know I won't have to do all of the work alone and neither will you. If we put it all together...we'll get there.

Truth