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This is too much! I am so angry and pissed off I f$&@ing hate this disorder, I hate that I fell victim to it!
I have spent the last three days with terrible anxiety and panic attacks, feeling really on edge..
My girlfriend comes over tonight I spent 2hours balling my eyes out!
Then she let's it slip that she saw my exN husband at the gym the other night, with the OW!
This women is his co worker who my husband cheated on me with before he left, who he claimed he had no interest in, was not physically attracted to, promised me he had no intention of being with, didn't want her like that, in fact being with her made him realize that the attraction of the eyes is fickle and that our attraction to each other and our love is deeper and so much more! ( his words)
He said he was moving out because he wanted to be alone, didn't want a relationship and wanted to sort himself out!
It's been 3.5 months since he lef our marriage and as she has now joined up at his gym which is just near his house, I can only assume that she has moved in with him... ( which explains why I have not heard from him all this time)
The reason I blocked him from face book and deleted mutual friends was so I would NEVER have to hear about or know who he was with or living with etc!
I'm angry at my friend that she would tell me this, hearing this sets me back so much, it triggers me in every way.
It makes me want to contact him and tell him he is a lying sack of shit and I fucking hate him!
It makes me feel even more betrayed that I was friends with this women his NS and that we spoke after she had been with him ( I didn't know then) and she was telling how lucky I was to have found my soul mate and that he loves me so much and that we have the perfect relationship!
All the while she was messing around with my husband... Wtf who does that!!!
It's hard enough trying to get my head around the fact that I fell in love with a man that never existed, that our marriage was a fucking illusion and one big lie..
Now I have to deal with the fact he is living with her, all the lies and betrayal from both of them, I was played big time!
I'm furious and every part of me wants to contact her as well and tell her what I think as well!
Why the hell am I surprised, I have read so much on this disorder! I know it's textbook behaviour for them to move on, move in with NS this soon after leaving there relationship!
Why did I think I was the exception! Why did i believe that mine would be any different!
I have read it over and over in nearly everyone's post, yet i still believed that he was living alone, maybe just had someone on the side every now and then!
I feel like I am so unworthily so replaceable so the opposite of how he made me feel in the beginning.
I feel sick to my stomach that he is living the honeymoon period with her so soon after leaving our marriage!
I feel like a used piece of trash, I didn't need to hear this information, I'm struggling so hard ATM, I just feel like its all too much and I'm finding hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel!
I'm trying to see a positive in this, something that I can use to strengthen myself and say fuck u, I will not let you break me! But I'm gutted! I know how it will end with them, I know he will d&d her sooner or later, but how do I get through this... How do I keep strong when I feel like I'm crumbling!
I`m sorry for your pain. The
May 18, 2012 - 1:54am — JourneyI`m sorry for your pain. The way to keep strong is to stay focused on you, on your freedom from his abuse and lies.
You know who and what he is and that he will devalue her and one day she will be the one who he discards, trust that knowledge and keep raising the bar for yourself, knowing YOU deserve much, much better from a relationship than what HE could EVER give - to you, to her, or to anyone else. (hugs)
EWO
May 17, 2012 - 9:47am — Lucky EscapeYou know what, I have posted today, feeling EXACTLY the same - the injustice, the frustration, anger - more to yourself too because you KNOW what he is. I paced around the house, steaming and wanting to go around and have it out with him and let everyone know what he is......just makes me a nutter to them and FEEDS him.....supply, supply supply.
Let's face it, we have done the reading, we are NC, we know the steps - but then, this comes along and slaps you round the face like a giant wet fish. Can not believe she said all those things to you but then who knows what he told her??? Can't blame her too much - she must have her own issues to have been attracted to him, or rather, the idea of him!
It's so so unfair - but like me, you have done exactly the right thing in posting on here.....
Stay strong, sending you a virtual hug as I really do know how you feel today..take care hun x
Than you LE for you reply, I
May 18, 2012 - 1:23am — eyeswideopen35Than you LE for you reply, I m sorry you to are struggling with the same feelings, it a tough long journey, I hope you are feeling a little better today, hugs to you, xo
So, was that your 'friend's'
May 17, 2012 - 9:46am — Deidre99So, was that your 'friend's' way of comforting you, as you balled your eyes out? Telling you 'news' about the narc and his new woman. Sigh.
I admit, I didn't read past that part. For it all doesn't matter, really. Your feelings matter, certainly. I'm sorry you're hurting, and we have all been there.
But, honestly? Had she not mentioned this, you might not be reeling.
So, ask yourself...is this really a friend? If so, you need to kindly ask her to keep anything narc related to herself. She didn't 'slip.' Not saying she's sinister in her actions, but she didn't 'slip.' I hate to say this, but...'well meaning friends' sometimes are not so well meaning. Many 'well meaning friends' like to stir the gossip/drama pot.
The new woman and the narc aren't the problem. They are who they are. But, your 'friend' shouldn't have told you this info. Period.
Friends don't pull bandaids off scabs trying to heal. Just saying.
Perhaps I sound like some cynical biddy now. lol But, that's where the problem lies in this particular instance. Had she not shared this, you wouldn't be reeling.
Deirdree , thank u for your
May 18, 2012 - 1:33am — eyeswideopen35Deirdree , thank u for your reply, I certainly am confused at my girlfriends behaviour it is the second time this week that she has triggered me...
I would appreciate your feedback on the first trigger as I'm nit sure if I am being over sensitive...
She told me the other night that she has feelings for her co worker, and that they have been flirting like crazy and she feels so happy and excited... She has been with her partner for eleven years and this guy she is fljrting with it MARRIED!
She said he knows it is wrong but part of her doesn't care because she isn't getting what she needs at home etc etc..
So here she is telling me all about how she s planning on hooking up with her married co worker, whilst I am in the middle of try to heal from my exN husband who just cheated on with with his co worker and walked out of our marriage!
Am I being just too sensitive or do you think it was appropriate for her to discuss this with me at
this stage...
As her friend I don't want to turn my back on her, and I'm trying to listen and advice her putting my own situation aside, but that nearly impossible for me too do when she is doing the exact same thing he did to me..
Okay, I read the whole thing,
May 17, 2012 - 9:49am — Deidre99Okay, I read the whole thing, now.
And you're right. You 'didn't need to hear this information.'
Stay strong. DO NOT CONTACT THAT OTHER WOMAN. For the love of mike, do not do that. Please. Keep your dignity, and stay NC.
CRY TO US. VENT TO US. We will help you through these hard days. ((hugs))
Stay here
May 17, 2012 - 8:52am — CostaStay here at TPF, eyeswideopen35.
This is the worst part of it for you, the crushing disillusion and shock won't last forever. All I can suggest is to keep talking to your closest friend or friends - I hope your girlfriend tonight now understands a little better.
Just do keep talking, and be with a true friend, have local support now when you need it most. Stay here at TPF too. But for now, get over this worst patch in company any way you can - I did it by pestering the phone counsellors and support people and essentially talking my way out of it, that took time. A good friend local is who you need.
Thinking of you. Take care. With much love and concern.
Thank you costa for your kind
May 18, 2012 - 1:43am — eyeswideopen35Thank you costa for your kind works and your pm msg, I will get back to you on that one shortly..
I did confront my friend this morning and asked her to keep anything to herself, lie to me if she needs to, but please do not tell e anything to do with him... She feels really bad for upsetting me and I hope she gets it this time.
The crushing illusion and shock describes perfectly how I am feeling...
What makes this worse for me is that he did the EXACT same thing to me seven years ago when we first got together. He formed a relationship with a co worker, dumped me, got engaged to her came back to me on and off ( while he was on breaks with her)
He then broke up with her played push and pull, triangulation ( with another women not his ex) for six months... Then when I'd finally had enough of all that and walked away, he came back three weeks later professing his love, how he needs me, how it's always been me, blah blah...
Silly be believed him. Believed all his lies, thought he had changed and married him...
Fast forward to know he has repeated the exact same pattern...
Only difference is this time I WONT be taking him back if he comes back my way!
Xo
you will be ok!
May 17, 2012 - 8:47am — lessonlearnedof course it hurts terribly, & all of the feelings you're expressing are justified. feel them, go ahead & rage or cry. just DON'T break NC!!!
i don't know if this will help, but i'll tell you what happened the day i found out about my N's cheating (we were "together" for 3 years & living together at this point).
short version: i found out about the OW (i'll call her T) & then called her to confirm that he was lying to her & using her in a plan to move on to some new NS. then i called my best girlfriend & she came over to listen to me sob & rage like a lunatic on my livingroom sofa for awhile. when i came up for air, she took a deep breath & looked me dead in the eye: "listen, i know you are in a lot of pain right now & it is truly horrible the way this has all played out. however...i just want to go on record saying that, despite your suffering, T is my favorite person in the WORLD right now! honestly, she is exactly what you needed to be able to DUMP this mother****er & get the hell out of this awful relationship. so no disrespect intended, but YAY, T!"
i laughed my ass off then, & every time i remember that day i have to laugh. it was laugh or cry, & somehow i knew she was right & that his securing of another source of NS was my ticket to freedom.
i'm so sorry for your agony & pain. i'm very hopeful for your continued healing & freedom.
((hugs))
Ll I thank or sharing your
May 18, 2012 - 1:49am — eyeswideopen35Ll I thank or sharing your expeierence I am going o really try to see it that way...
I know it will end the same with her, but then that ltttle nagging thought comes in and plans doubt in my mind,
You know the one that says.... She will be different, he will make it work with her and they will live a truelly happy blissful life somewhere far away in la la land!,
I need to keep reminding myself , that with there disorder comes three things which are inevitable, idealization, devaluation, and discard!,,
No exceptions, no happy endings, no happy ever after for them...ever!
eyeswideopen
May 17, 2012 - 8:24am — LaylaI am so sorry, I do not have the words to take the pain away for this. I know this really hurts. The betrayal alone by both of these fools is undoubtedly unbearable. I know, in time you will feel better, but that doesn't do much good NOW, I know this.
I will say, as an outsider to this circus of betrayal, you lost the loser cheater and she gained the loser cheater. That much is TRUTH. You at least know who is he, she is still lost in the fog of his illusions.
I just wanted to post in support of your feelings and let you know that you have forum friends here who care about what you are going through. This is not an easy road for the weak living in and accepting the illusion. It's a tough but rewarding journey for the strong who seek and live truth. We'll get there and be whole and happy again. : )
love~ Layla
Layla, you lost the loser
May 18, 2012 - 1:57am — eyeswideopen35Layla, you lost the loser cheater, she gained the loser cheater!, thank you those words rang true for me....
She even went on and on about how sorry she felt for me the night they were out at the work Christmas party ( the night the hooked up) before I knew... She was saying to my husband... I feel so sorry for your wife, wondering where you are and you being out pretty much all night o drunk,
And she was saying to me how horrible it must have been for me not knowing were he was or what he was up too... Wtf, shall I just assume she is completely naive!
Makes little scents when I think about it all! Best I try to just erase all the conversations and lies from my mind!
Love and light to you..
EWO
May 17, 2012 - 10:09am — BtrflyGrlI just wanted to let you know I agree with all the other posts on here and I feel your pain. I am so sorry you are going through this right now. Reading your post triggered something in me, now I'm crying! I so know how you are feeling. Stay strong, stay NC and give yourself permission to be hurt and angry. They are totally valid emotions and you need to get them out. Big Huge Hugs to you! It WILL get better.
xoxo BtrflyGrl
Oh btrfly grl I'm sorry my
May 18, 2012 - 1:58am — eyeswideopen35Oh btrfly grl I'm sorry my post triggered you and cause you to cry! Big hugs to you too!
Xo
I have one friend who knew
May 18, 2012 - 2:15am — bluegirlI have one friend who knew the ex, and as I've said before she didn't even understand the full extent of it. I let her see my Story as written on this board, and finally she understood a little of what I'd been through. I won't share the story with anyone else again though. None of them understand even a little bit and thought I was exaggerating.