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It's only been two weeks since I fully committed to NO CONTACT and NO LOOKING BACK. I just felt like I'd finally had ENOUGH. I finally knew what he was (HALLELUJAH!) and I wanted him out of my life forever. I didn't want to spend any more time on an emotional LEECH and energy-sucking PARASITE.
Don't get me wrong, I've had times of NC that have lasted two or three months before I would break down and reach out to hear ... what? Just one last hollow promise or blatant lie.
The difference before was that I thought (I know this sounds ridiculous now) ... that we were star-crossed lovers, and that somehow fate had conspired to keep us apart. It turns out that fate wasn't cruel at all. She was kind enough to me that I never married this man or had a child with him. It turns out that he was the one who arranged things perfectly for his own hollow entertainment and pleasure.
The first time I broke up with him, I checked myself into counseling immediately. That was about two years ago. I think that the counselor lost patience with me, because I just couldn't get a handle on my self-destructive attraction to him and I kept going back for more psychological abuse. She told me to stick to no contact but she never once suggested that the man might be personality disordered.
It was only after LOTS of searching on the internet for answers that I came up with the possibility that he might be a sociopath. It was the total lack of empathy and the lies that made me think that was the case. It was only when I suggested this in an e-mail to my counselor that she wrote back ... "he sounds more like a narcissist to me" that it all fell into place.
Now I see myself as being in recovery. I don't have a lot of support because he had led me into a cult and it destroyed my social network. It took me so long to figure this bastard out that I even exhausted the patience of my counselor!!! I don't feel like I can go back to her still talking about how I'm still getting over this bastard two years down the line.
The last couple of days I have felt the old familiar ache creeping up on me again, the idiotic longing for that oh-so-temporary part of our relationship when I believed that I had re-discovered the love of my life.
It's frustrating. My feelings for a man with no feelings have stopped me connecting with the people in my life who really love me. I don't want to feel this ache. My desire for the illusion of the life we could have had together obscured the reality, the beauty of the present moment. In the past I have always returned to him for one more hit of the special, heart-wrenching hurt that only he could deliver.
I have blocked his e-mails but I know he's coming back to our home town soon. It's hard for me not to go looking for an e-mail, or wait for a text from him. There are times when I wish with all my heart that he was normal, or that I am just imagining/inventing his narcissism. But the more I read, the more I know that he is a hollow man. I always thought my self-esteem was pretty average. I don't consciously hate myself. In almost any situation I would never choose pain over healing ... and yet the ache for a dead love remains and hurts like a phantom limb.
This is really long. I came here and wrote all of this because I cannot live in his world of illusion and deceit any more. It will kill me. MUST choose myself, I MUST choose my family. I MUST choose NO CONTACT. Thanks for letting me share ...
Strength for you
May 13, 2012 - 11:48am — TruthbeginsTodayI'm posting one of many reasons to be free.
For every moment you spent in the past...the talks,the reasoning with him, being his conscience...his moral compass etc. Helping HIM to grow in a positive and or good way, being a good example, being GOOD to HIM...ask yourself was he ever these things for you? NO
YOU are good for you....you KNOW what's ok, YOU know what love is. He wanted you to let go of the right things and not grow or have support to continue to grow and learn, He valued other things and love is not one of them.
You are now free to grow..... to be YOU and the things YOU value. ONCE you are sure of what YOU value... STAND firm and let no on EVER tell you that who you are is not acceptable.
You know more than most about cruelty..you've seen it and experienced it and YOU are still here. You used to use your strength for HIM....NOW REST UP and use it for you....and then after you've rested up and healed...more of your strength will return and things will be much clearer. I PROMISE YOU that this is true. But you must stay way from the GAME until you heal some. Trust people here that have been there.....STOP TRUSTING HIM.
A hollow man. That brought
May 13, 2012 - 12:07am — Deidre99A hollow man. That brought tears to my eyes. I'm over my ex and have been for some time. But those two words...hollow man. Just really sums it up well. I know u can do this. NC is hard for a time...but if you want a better life...its the only way. Stay strong....
I agree. A hollow man.
May 15, 2012 - 4:19pm — FindingMyselfI agree. A hollow man. Hollow.... that's what they are.
I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore...
May 12, 2012 - 1:32am — no more an echoHi rosa_lita,
Where you been, Girl? Actually, I'm here rather sporadically but it's good to see you here!
I loved your post and here's what touched me:
"...wrote all of this because I cannot live in his world of illusion and deceit any more."
THANK YOU. That, in essence, is what brought me to the point of confronting the 'Ex-NarcoPath-Robo-Boy' and rejecting his illusionary, skewed world where he reigned as God and king- my desire to live in Truth. He of course, during my confrontation of all his bullsh*t, tried to D&D me (to make it ALL ABOUT HIM, naturally) but I was onto him. In the end I won my life back and isn't that what it's all about?
You also said:
"There are times when I wish with all my heart that he was normal, or that I am just imagining/inventing his narcissism."
Yeah, me, too. But you and I know how horribly we were treated- how subhuman our exes all were. Even without a diagnosis of a PD, the only self-preserving and sane thing to do is to leave and not look back.
At times it does ache, as you say, like a 'phantom limb' -and that really sucks. 'Suckier', though, would be to perpetuate the madness -that is, trying to normalize their disorder. And die in the process.
Next time we will give our time, affection and empathy to a real man- not to these slippery, opportunistic, weaselly, life-sucking, worm-like, pathetic cyborgs!
Hi nomore ...
May 12, 2012 - 6:47pm — rosa_litaWhere have I been? Oh, trying to forget that I ever had a narcissist in my life.
I now know what he is and there just doesn't seem any excuse for continued attachment to him. I've already wasted several years pining for a ghost and longing for a relationship that can never be.
I didn't visit for a while because I wanted to move forward with my life. But when the ache came back I came here instead of e-mailing, googling him and his various supply females. It was the right choice!
I am going out for a fun night tonight, and it's probably the first time in three years that I won't be looking at all the old places we used to meet, and wishing he could be with me. I see now that I had a lucky escape.
Wishing you well nomore ... I hope things are good with you. You look strong from your posts! One day the pains of my phantom lover will subside. I'm looking forward to it!
thanks rosa_lita
May 13, 2012 - 2:14am — no more an echoHi rosa_lita,
Thanks for the good wishes and I hope you had a fun night out!
I'm so happy that you're moving on with your life and I hope also that you visit here even after you have fully healed. I think it's important to encourage one another and you add so much to the forum.
Good choice on your part that you came here instead of contacting or internet stalking Narc or NS. Punch yourself in the face before doing THAT!
Hahaha
May 13, 2012 - 9:48am — rosa_litanomore I just loved that comment. Punch yourself in the face before doing THAT!!!
Shoot myself in the foot before I contact the monster ... it would cause less pain in the long run.
Yes, I like to think that I could heal properly and come back to tell people ... 2, 3, 4, 5 years of NO CONTACT and LIFE IS GOOD :D
emotional zombies, greedy pigs
May 13, 2012 - 10:55am — no more an echorosa_lita,
YES! We'll all heal. There are many on this forum (myself included) that can attest to that. Unfortunately, my most recent trip to Narcville wasn't my first- just hopefully my last!
We really are wiser and stronger for the experience. Maybe life (or God) was trying to tell us that our lives were WAY off balance. My 'quasi-relationship' with Mr. NarcoPath has pointed to the fact that I need to get more spiritual and less 'other-focused'.
There is such a stark contrast between these 'empty-souled ones' and the people that, I believe, God created us all to be. Fully HUMAN with deep empathy for others and a wide range of feelings. NarcoPaths are such emotional zombies, aren't they? The walking dead, soul consuming, parasitic, porcine creatures from hell.
Hey, maybe the Bible was referring to Narcs in this piece of wisdom:
"Don't throw your pearls among swine"
Hahahahaha!
Have a wonderful Mother's Day, everyone!
Congrats!
May 11, 2012 - 11:05pm — CanadaHi rosalita! Congrats on the NC! I must say we have such amazing parallels - two weeks so far of NC, I too went into counseling two years ago, and my therapist never mentioned personality disorders either. I feel like if she had said something then it would have saved me from taking him back and oodles of hassle, or maybe not...
Keep it up! The power is ours to keep now, and it feels great!
xoxo Jules
Was I in a trance, or what?
May 13, 2012 - 2:37am — no more an echoHi Canada,
My therapist totally MISSED the personality disorder thing, too- even though my experience SCREAMED it's presence! My Narc is so very classic (aren't they all so predictable now that we're on to them?)
It took my very dear friend to make me aware of the Narc's obvious disorder. She was so very patient with me and she would say two things (over and over) until I 'got it'. She said concerning my 'quasi-relationship':
1) "It's working for HIM"
and
2) "Are your needs being met?"
Wow. So very simple (and telling!) It really opened my eyes to the one sidedness and all over imbalance of what he was trying so hard to convince me was a normal relationship.
Was I in a trance, or what? Of course my needs weren't being met- they were hardly even being acknowledged or even CONSIDERED! HELLO? WELCOME to 'Planet N'!
But hey, clarity eventually came for us all! (In spite of myself and all thanks to God!)
Therapists
May 15, 2012 - 4:01pm — CanadaIt was a trance, I realize at the time I never would have taken her advice. I wanted to talk about HIM and she wanted to focus on what was wrong with me. I was too busy banging my head against the wall trying to understand all of his crap. She told me to not go back to him, and the whole time I was in her office I knew I would. Now, never again!
Also, at the end of our session, she broke her ethics and admitted to me that she knew who he was and that he was a huge douchebag...
Thanks ...
May 12, 2012 - 6:51pm — rosa_lita... for the congrats. Isn't it interesting that the counselors couldn't recognize PD behavior? There are times when I felt that she let me down, but the truth is that her advice was very good ... NO CONTACT! If I had listened to her I could have saved myself a lot of trouble.
On the other hand, he would've kept trying to contact me and eventually I would've caved. At least now I know what he is and I understand the phenomena. I have only myself to blame if I break NC this time.
We must be on a similar time-line of recovery! Wishing you the best! I'm glad you are in such a positive place right now xxx
Eh, not all counselors are
May 13, 2012 - 9:54am — BtrflyGrlEh, not all counselors are good. If you don't trust them they can actually hinder your progress. While she may have been right in certain areas if you don't like/trust her overall it's not worth it. Can you find a new one? I'm not in counselling now but in the past it took me like 5 trys to find somebody I felt related to my needs and goals. I hate it when they just spew text book stuff at you. It's like Hello? I'm a real person here! Do you just want me to read the book?
Yeah I'm a little bitter about my therapy experience, but there are some great ones out there.