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Narcissists are magnets for CoDependents
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NarcSurvivor1
Apr 23 2012 - 10:06pm
I believe the word being used in these discussions is Empaths. My father was a narcissist (he has since passed), my ex-husband is one, and probably the most dangerous N was the man I strayed from my marriage for. It seems I have had special training but in fact I am learning how severely codependent I am. We constantly put other's needs before our own and in doing so forget to take care ourselves. "Narcissists, with their ability to 'get others to buy into their vision and help them make it a reality,' are natural magnets for the co-dependent with the tendency to put others' need before their own." (Eric Bernie - A Layman's guide to Psychiatry and Psychoanalysis.) Sam Vaknin considered that codependents, as "the Watsons of this world, 'provide the narcissist with obsequious, unthreatening audience...the perfect backdrop.'" Among the reciprocally locking interactions of the pair, are the way "the narcissist has an overpowering need to feel important and special, and the co-dependent has a strong need to help others feel that way. The Narcissist overdoes self-caring and demands it from others, while the co-dependent underdoes or may even do almost no self-caring." Codependents of narcissists as "co-narcissists.": "The codependent narcissist gives up his or her own needs to feed and fuel the needs of the other."
My point is that it is good to talk about the experience, but at some point we need to put our energy into working on ourselves. We have to understand what is within us that magnetizes to these types of people. In my case there was at least 3 (two I chose) and my goal is to identify and face the reality that my dysfunctional childhood affected me deeply, manifesting itself into low self-esteem, denial, excessive compliance or control problems, and avoidance patterns. I intend to completely recover from my co-dependency through education whereas a Narcissist can never be cured. I accept full responsibility for the fact that I have made a choice all my life to deny my co-dependency. The reasons why are as important to me as the recovery itself. It's time to think about me now and not analyze his derelict behavior more than caring for myself.
Answering to the title..
May 6, 2012 - 3:28pm — greengirl91YES, and reverse.
Codependents are magnets for Ns, and reverse..it`s crazy how these two types blend. Codependents feel too much. Narcisists don`t feel anything, close to nothing. The N only takes and takes, but how long can a codependent or emapath, resist or reinvent herself (and often blame herself in the codependent case) to match the crazy-dance and mood swings of the Narcisist?
I believe both the Narcisist and the Codependent have common grounds, "scars" of a dysfunctional environment, but react to it differently. The N takes, takes, takes, the Codependent stays is self-denial.
The Codependent person survival depended on reading the emotions of others..when is mom gonna have the next crisis? When is the next storm coming? So they become super-sensitive at reading peoples emotions, and that is why they seem to "get" bonded with Narcs. Most of them being raised by Narcisistic parents..
I banged my self, my mind, my soul, my heart for 6 years with the last Narcisist, but I incline to say, if it wouldn`t be him, it would be another Narcisist. I wanted my happy-ending, I wanted to fix and rescue the unfixable, I wanted love when there was NOTHING.
I too stayed in denial that my father has some mild form of NPD, has mommy issues, is unavailable emotionally, and NEVER THERE, in conclusion. And that is how the exN was too.
I guess I won`t stop until I find all my answers, lol :)
I totally agree and can
May 7, 2012 - 3:55am — eyeswideopen35I totally agree and can relate to so much of your post....
I think co depend ants and narcissist have the same core issue of abandoment...
Narcs run from it and co depend ants cling on even tighter...
NarcSurvivor
May 6, 2012 - 6:21am — Janie53Yes, it is all about choices and Ia hell of a lot of work. This is why therapy is such an important component of the healing process.
Thanks for sharing!
Stay true!
Janie
Absolutely
May 6, 2012 - 5:53am — SnowflakeAs a co dependent I do get something out of the shit that made me go back time and time again, its that that needs work on instead of expending time trying to work out a fucked up relationship..
I cant change you but I can change me
my new train of thought and works for everybody in your life x