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Martha Stout says they always make a pity play. Mine did first time I talked to him, said his wife never loved him and never game him any pet names, (boy do I have several).
Sheridan says they have high testosterone levels so will have a strong jaw line, pronounced adam's apple, upper body strength.
Any more?
Lily
my ex narc
May 5, 2012 - 7:16am — onwithmylifeuse to bad mouth one of his wives all the time to me and what do you know I am sure he badmouths me to other women he knows now..........
He never gave much detail
May 5, 2012 - 4:52am — Trainwreck56to his past when he spoke about it, like he doled out bits and pieces of his past, blamed the woman on past relationship failures, there were many pieces of the puzzle missing!
Or he would say something about his past and I'd talk with his mother on what he said, she would say it was a lie!
She is a PSYCHO-NARC also, so who the hell do you believe??
His "version" of events was not the same as other peoples
version of events!
They lie, that's part of their behavior! Makes them feel good they got something over on another sucker!
That smug look, eccch!
TW
Woe boy
May 5, 2012 - 12:52am — Reason2BelieveBefore our first date, I listened to Wanna B's CD. Great music, but based on his lyrics, my statement to my sister was "jeeze, this guy has had some shitty relationships".
Our first date, he told me about his alcoholic father and crappy childhood. Over the next 7 years, I noticed that he always mentioned or "joked" about his dad's drinking to not only friends, but strangers as well.
All of past r/s involved women who had drinking problems and were extemely needed. This was confirmed by friends.
It appears he broke this pattern when he met me. No way am I needy and 1 drink is my limit. He always called me a "lightweight".
He never had a conversation that didn't include the phrase
"I can never get a break"....hmmm- I'd love to break something now. Fat, bloated tick. Yikkkkk
Reason
A red flag
May 4, 2012 - 8:16pm — ruby01The stories they tell about their past are all over the place!
Lies upon lies upon lies
Listen very carefully. ..
May 4, 2012 - 7:43pm — HunterListen very carefully. .. They tell you exactly who they are..
Mine said " YOU ARE THE STRONGEST WOMAN I EVER MET..BUT IM STILL STRONGER""
Guess what.. The first part of his statement was correct .. But he is a weak blad little Fucking Coward..you lose assclown.. I will always be stronger because I'm real..
Hunter :)
Hunter
May 5, 2012 - 8:17am — Janie53This is so true. Many of the first things he disclosed to me proved to be exactly who he really is, or really who he isn't. He told me he didn't ever love anyone, including his own children. I though of course, he was just making a joke and I even said laughing, what are you a psychopath? How could anyone who does love and have empathy believe such a thing? I just thought he had commitment issues from his loveless marriage....
And I too, was one of the strongest and kindest women he ever met. Well there is one truth he did tell.
A lesson learned.
Stay true!
Janie
A controlling pity play
May 4, 2012 - 6:13pm — Celebrity NSRight away I heard about all kinds of awful things and got sucked in - poor guy! His ex was a slut! His daughter was hurt! His dad beat him! But one thing that really sticks out is that first romantic interlude... he withheld sex still doees - but he would grab my wrists and throw them over my head and hold them down, and crouch over me staring in my eyes with a conquering grin, like he caught his prey, and nothing would ever happen! Just kiss one cheek, then the other, then the other, then the other... But always I was restrained, even to the point of frustrated tears.
X-GF he was engaged to was a
May 5, 2012 - 5:08am — Trainwreck56"DOUCHE BAG", that's what he said, she f-ed around on him,
he bought her an engagement ring and "allegedly" she sold it for like $300 to buy drugs!
Sure there is more to that story...LIKE HER SIDE!
He probably treated her like shit, she had her Enough moment, they ring did not mean shit anymore to her, because the relationship was in the dumpster, so she sold it! GOOD FOR HER!
BOOHOO cries the NARC-PSYCHO, nothing he ever did made her do that! BULLSHIT...
If she did mess around its probably because he withheld, love, and intimacy, WHICH I'M SURE SHE WAS STARVED OF!
So there ya go!
NCNC
TW
And that is all he would do?
May 4, 2012 - 7:38pm — Deidre99And that is all he would do? How bizarre! I read these stories and we deserve so much more.
My warning sign would be multiple marriages and terrible relationships to their kids. My ex was married four times and never MET two of his three kids and had a bad relationship with the third. (Diff mothers)
If a person turns his back on his own kids.....need I say more?
Celebrity
May 4, 2012 - 6:22pm — lilygirlRight, the eyes, sort of dead, eh? One time I swear I saw some creature looking out of his eyes at me, shy, bent, sick.
Where in the hell did these creatures come from?
hey Lily... I also saw a
May 5, 2012 - 1:57am — tootsgeehey Lily... I also saw a creature .... sick, bent, nasty...... right at the end before I made him leave.... it was ulgy and vile.... xx
Mine wanted to move into
May 4, 2012 - 6:07pm — uncomfortablynumbMine wanted to move into relationship territory FAST...I had to pace him, which only made me more challenging, which leads to..
sign #2...all about the CHASE..if I did my own thing and didn't give a rip if he followed, he followed..when I gave him trust to let my guard down and confront him with something that was bothering me, he went into ...
Sign #3...refusing to acknowledge the impact of his behaviour, gaslight, refuse to apologise or have empathy, followed by a good dose of ST for punishment which leads to "crazY" reaction and ME doing the apologising for my "behaviour."
Sign #4...continued use of ST punishment for speaking up for myself and quick D&D for refusing to go "crazy" about it.
Fuck him.
Sounds familiar... Sign #3
May 4, 2012 - 6:36pm — Harper03Sounds familiar...
Sign #3 is PAINFULLY familiar. I would go from text messaging and calling him being so mad, to BEGGING him to answer then to APOLOGIZING thinking he would answer after that. Of course, I was "crazy" and then I also had to apologize for my "behavior" as well. Gosh, how miserable that was!
Harper
May 5, 2012 - 10:33pm — TarHeelBlueI can't tell you how many times I went through the SAME thing. And I'm not normally that person...I'd find myself following that pattern and asking myself, "Why am I doing this? Why am I letting him manipulate me like this?" but I would keep on doing it anyway.
I'm so sorry you went through the same thing, and so glad we are both finally out of it!
Love & hugs!
THB
Harper
May 5, 2012 - 10:28pm — TarHeelBlueI can't tell you how many times I went through the SAME thing. And I'm not normally that person...I'd find myself following that pattern and asking myself, "Why am I doing this? Why am I letting him manipulate me like this?" but I would keep on doing it anyway.
I'm so sorry you went through the same thing, and so glad we are both finally out of it!
Love & hugs!
THB
Yes the same for me
May 4, 2012 - 6:15pm — Celebrity NSMove in fast, the rage for confronting him, refusing to acknowlege or apologize, and the silent treatment. Yes he does all of it, but it took years to progress to those points.
uncomnumb
May 4, 2012 - 6:11pm — lilygirlI'll second that!
WTF silent treatment - never again, someone tries that shit on me I will never allow contact again. Starve these parasites.
Silent treatment is absolutely toxic.
Lily
The stare of death
May 4, 2012 - 6:36pm — SadangelintearsI would be sleeping and turn over he would be watching me sleep right in my face.At first it looked kinda sexual which lead to well you know. Then the second time I was really scared and turned over it was more intense :(
Sadangelintears
May 4, 2012 - 6:54pm — Harper03Oh sh*t did yours watch you sleep too? Mine did... I didn't know this. He told me. Once he sent a picture of me sleeping. I would wake up to him taking my clothes off and he would watch me sleep. I wonder what else they did when we would sleep!?
Yeah the staring
May 4, 2012 - 6:39pm — Celebrity NSThen the raping in my sleep
Yes
May 4, 2012 - 7:12pm — SadangelintearsHe would take pics of me sleeping it was creepy I asked him to stop please.