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Just curious on others thoughts..i was reading an article on

http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/the-no-contact-rule-rose/
in relation to NC and the author states..

The NCR is not for marriages. Not only do you need to stay in touch for your divorce, but it’s a pretty nasty way to end a relationship with someone you were prepared to legally bind yourself to!

Just curious if the ones that were married to there XNH,s went full no contact.
We dont have children and all the house stuff is sorted( cause he just moved out and took what he wanted pretty much overnight)
I have not contacted him for bills etc i just paid them..
so other than a a DIVORCE which we cant apply for until we have been separated for 12 months, i cant see any reason to need to have contact!

just curious how the others that were married dealt with NC?

THANKS

agnesmurphy17's picture

NC Divorce

Sounds like your N left you? If he moved out & took what he wanted in 24 hours & is not currently contacting you & asking you for money. If all this is true, then it seems that he doesn't want contact with you. Probably because he's got something else that's keeping him busy right now. If that fails, he may be back. So be careful.

The lawyer can make the financial negotiatons. I would advise that. A narcissist is not a person one wants to engage with in financial matters. They are con artists, liars, and break their word all the time. Now that YOU are of no use to him, he has no reason to be decent any more. This is when the wife sees the real man -- Mr. Hyde.

I left mine. No children. He replaced me the day I left. But he tried to remain in contact as a control thing & on the hopes he could get me back because NW did not want to buy my share of the house & the bank would not give him a mortgage. He wanted the house. In the end, his parents gave him cash to buy me out. Once the house was secured, he wanted a divorce & I heard very little from him. Uh, approximately 6 weeks after I told him I was leaving. I was no longer useful.

It is exactly three years since I left him. When I left him he was weeping that he was "finished with women." The next day he was madly in love & engaged to a NW whom he had really just met, living with her, even before our divorce. She left him after 10 months, and then he had another women within a month. What else? I have no idea. NC. He never thinks of me. Why should he? He never thought of me when I was there. Only how he could use me or how much money he could extract from me.

NC is really a state of mind. Even during the divorce, any necessary contact was not "engaging" him. I was so detached. I wanted no contact. I did not fall into the traps. I did not argue or accuse him of anything. He found other women. I was no longer useful.

knighty2035's picture

Only 4 days out

of my 16 year marriage. I have maintained LC but I have to admit ... its extremely difficult and I don't believe I have had a day that I didn't cry at least once. The emotions I have are so conflicting... excited with my new home, but the newness of it is also saddening to me. I feel relieved, and yet the calm is creating it's own anxiety in me since I'm use to the "noise". And then there is the lonliness of missing someone who was so much a part of your life you might as well have had an arm amputated or something. That it's a peice of myself missing. I know he is NPD, I know that he is incapable of acknowledging or seeking help, and I know that any good behavior is outweighed by the bad. But regardless, I miss him terribly and barring him acting like a complete jackass to me for no reason, I will continue in a low contact mode. I have no desire for it to be difficult to maintain contact between the children (his and mine all grew up together). The oldest is getting married in June and I don't want animosity for her sake. Missing him causes me to dwell on the good times... and that makes me want to reach out to him.. but I am doing my best not to.

Janie53's picture

There is always the option of

There is always the option of having your lawyer do whatever negioation is necessary.
Stay true!

Janie

Layla's picture

Married.

Married eight years no kids together (I have two teenage sons at home though, but they are not his).

We have been No Contact now 10 months and I live in the home. I too pay all the bills myself. I have not filed for divorce yet. At first I was too traumatized but to get through the day. Now I am much stronger and this will be next on my list of things to do. Currently I have a stay away/no contact restraining order on my husband which he has since violated and there is a warrant out for his arrest so I doubt we'll be hearing much of him anytime soon. Haha!

I will go through my lawyer when divorce time comes. I know there is NO reasoning with a PD. Especially one like the one I am legally tied to.

love~ Layla

Deidre99's picture

I have looked at that

I have looked at that website, and find it interesting.

I think two people going through a divorce, need to just figure out how much contact makes sense. For some here on this site, they are ''low contact.'' Meaning, legal matters and matters dealing with the children, are discussed via email, etc. But unfortunately, when dealing with a narc, the narc may take those openings, to blast the soon to be ex. Insult, get enraged, be nice, etc. All in an attempt to get the soon to be ex back in the game.

If I were going through a divorce with a narc, I probably would only let him contact me via text. No email. Because someone typically won't drone on and on and on...via text. It's harder to do than email. But, that's just me. And if the person proved that he is going to use that as a means to harass me, I would go NC, and then work through the legal stuff through a lawyer. It's hard no doubt, I imagine...but, for one's sanity, that seems to be the wisest.

I don't think that baggagereclaim maybe understands that if you are divorcing an abuser/narcissist, then different rules may apply when it comes to NC.

eyeswideopen35's picture

i guess i cant really see any

i guess i cant really see any need to discuss anything with him at this stage.. i have had minimal contact only via text initially after he left in reagrds to mail and joint bills/accounts etc.
I did recently learn that if you have been married for under two years, the laws are different regarding divorce and that the court requires you both to go to counselling before they will look at granted you a divorce! i better find one that deals in PD!

Deidre99's picture

you're kidding? whatta

you're kidding? whatta joke.

the courts will grant someone a marriage, if they've known one another a day, but you need counseling if they feel you haven't been married long enough? lol oh brother.

i would do what YOU are comfortable with. the courts can't send you to jail for going NC. LOL Drag it out so you stay married 'x' amount of days to please the courts, and then get a divorce. ha I'm kidding.

Or am i?

;)

eyeswideopen35's picture

i know it a joke right? we

i know it a joke right? we can't get a divorce until yo have been separated for twelve months which requires proof and counselling is. required if you were married under 2 years. i think you only have to go once and have the counsellor access you. you can get out of the counselling if there has been abuse! not sure how i would go with stating he is a NARC!

Deidre99's picture

Well, do what you got to do,

Well, do what you got to do, I guess. lol Because getting out of this mess is paramount to your healing.

I would be LC/NC...I would only respond to legal things. If he wants to have lunch and talk, and bla bla ...and oh, i miss you...oh, i will change...oh, it was all your fault...oh, i'm dating this great woman, and she is better than you (the texts will run the gamut if he is a full blown narc)...I would stay NC.

It is hard, but NC brings clarity and healing.

Counseling wouldn't be bad, if it will help YOU. I wouldn't be interested in going to counseling, WITH HIM. He is an abuser, and won't change. But, the courts still don't 'get' domestic abuse. They don't. There is still this notion that two people can work it out.

You can't work anything out with an abuser/narcissist. But, do what you must to get through this, and move on.

I wouldn't go against the grain, if that is the 'law.' But, you can minimize contact, or just go no contact as much as possible to gain your own self back.

Good luck to you with this.

eyeswideopen35's picture

thanks for your advice

thanks for your advice deidre99 , i do see a counsellor she is the one that told me to look into PD, but in the end he admitted he has NPD apparently he. has know for years! just decided not to tell me till the end! so far he has not tried to get me back not tried to get me back, in fact he has pretty much just moved on like i never existed and we never got married! i think he would have been expecting me to be contacting him and trying to get him back! me having NC with him would have been the last thing he expected! he said he knows i will always be in his life and that ill just be angry for a few months then ill be fine! ha ha not this time, been there done the back and fourth! no more for me! divorce it is!

eyeswideopen35's picture

i know it a joke right? we

i know it a joke right? we can't get a divorce until yo have been separated for twelve months which requires proof and counselling is. required if you were married under 2 years. i think you only have to go once and have the counsellor access you. you can get out of the counselling if there has been abuse! not sure how i would go with stating he is a NARC!

Wallace's picture

I went LC during the time we

I went LC during the time we were sorting out the settlement and the divorce but have gone NC (personal) since the divorce was granted. We have no kids or close mutual friends so I have no desire to see or speak to him at all. I have LC in a professional sense via e-mail if I refer a patient to him but I never speak to him on the phone or in person and I mostly just forward referral letters and patient records to his receptionist. Even though we were married, I was married to his False Self and he doesn't exist so why be friends with the N? He broke his vows to love and to cherish me so as far as I am concerned, my leaving him was a direct result of that. He can kiss my a** if he expects me to be mates with him. Narchole that he is he is probably outraged that I wouldn't want to grovel in front of the King on a regular basis. Oooh, sorry...little mini-rage there.

xxx