Jack guy thanks for that post. My ex always made it seem like I was some desperate pathetic loser when I'd try to talk things out with him. The more I tried to love, the more he pushed me away.

This was just another example of gaslighting and devaluation i.e. "you should move on" - that is an attempt to make you feel devalued, to humiliate you for having the normal human pain at the end of a relationship, to devalue you and make you believe you were not worth getting hung up on...he has moved on etc...it's all a pathetic smokescreen designed to convince you he is powerful and wonderful and that you are pathetic and undesirable...

They despise normal, real, connected human emotion so try to make us feel crazy for having normal human emotions and feelings...

My exn tried this a lot with me and it hurt and worked for a while until I saw through it completely and saw it ALL as a reflection of her sickness and ugliness...once we see that the WHOLE problem resides in them, (even if we have our own issues, the abuse in an N relationship is always about THEM, these attempts at abuse by proxy etc become less painful and reinforce the reality that they are stuck on a hamster wheel, living in pure fanasy

If you had just left without saying anything, he probably would have made up the same story --- that you need to "move on" ---

everything is about them, right?
they are perfect, right?

Every narc says that!

Your friend had no business asking him to leave!! What did you think he would say ?.

It's a public place..

Contact = Pain

Hunter