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Today has been a good day. I can honestly say I've been feeling better, less angry more positive. I did some reading around the forums here and reflected on what I read. The hardest thing to believe, and I staunchly disagree with, at least from my unique situation and perspective is that my exNarc was a master manipulator and a "pro" at this. The sticking point is that by saying she was the manipulator, this devious "pro", gives her power over me, even now after it is over, is to admit weakness. I personally feel that she was not a good liar, she didn't manipulate me. I know I manipulated my own feelings, I allowed this to happen to me. Let me explain: I saw the signs, I knew what was happening but I rationalized it before even confronting her and just let it go.
I also refuse to believe that the feelings of what we had weren't real. Maybe not real in the sense of mutual shared feelings between two normal human beings but still they existed. The difference lies in the perception by both parties. Yes hers may have been an act, not true love, happiness whatever, but mine was, if only at first. I will admit, I understand in her eyes I was an object, just a source on NS, but I WAS happy and that counts for something. The happiness was doomed to fail for sure. But what makes you happy is never bad. It becomes bad only when you cling to the past despite what you see before your eyes in the present.
I am also going to take a step forward and past my bitterness and anger and refuse to say that the relationship was a failure. It will only be a failure if I continue to make the same mistakes and do not learn from the experience.
It was mine
April 30, 2012 - 3:28pm — CostaThis so resonates, Gso.
And that's a great Kaufman line in the post below, "It was mine, that love. I owned it."
The idea of not accepting the terminology of being spun or manipulated. I found my N's attempts at that almost comic, it was so shallow. I could see she was no master manipulator. Some probably are though.
In either case, we own our feelings and can only address them as contributing to our identity into the future. We can talk about these feelings with others.
Its our identity and they're our feelings, and thats a strength.
GSO88, I saw this quote from the movie Adaptation
April 29, 2012 - 10:00am — goldieHi GSO, I recently remembered these line's from the Movie, Adaptation and thought of you.
Charlie Kaufman: There was this time in high school. I was watching you out the library window. You were talking to Sarah Marsh.
Donald Kaufman: Oh, God. I was so in love with her.
Charlie Kaufman: I know. And you were flirting with her. And she was being really sweet to you.
Donald Kaufman: I remember that.
Charlie Kaufman: Then, when you walked away, she started making fun of you with Kim Canetti. And it was like they were laughing at *me*. You didn't know at all. You seemed so happy.
Donald Kaufman: I knew. I heard them.
Charlie Kaufman: How come you looked so happy?
Donald Kaufman: I loved Sarah, Charles. It was mine, that love. I owned it. Even Sarah didn't have the right to take it away. I can love whoever I want.
Charlie Kaufman: But she thought you were pathetic.
Donald Kaufman: That was her business, not mine. You are what you love, not what loves you. That's what I decided a long time ago.
Donald Kaufman: Whats up?
Charlie Kaufman: Thank you.
Donald Kaufman: For what?
God bless,
Goldie
GSO...no one here is in any
January 31, 2012 - 1:51pm — TNR1GSO...no one here is in any way denying your thoughts and feelings for her. The issue is that you gave and gave and she took and took and even when it looked and felt like she was giving, I think somewhere in your heart you knew it wasn't an even give and take. Over time, we build up resentment towards feeling taken advantage of..that is normal. Even when we realize that the other person is profounded wounded in a way that we cannot help, we still need to mourn what we wanted but did not receive. I think you are doing great.
Your situation is not unique
January 31, 2012 - 11:37am — HunterYour situation is not unique .. Not here anyway....
Your a man.. Most men won't express their feelings because their men.. They've been groomed not to..
Statistics indicate its 50/50 men vs women with PD..
You are processing your feeling after this horrid experience..get Lisa " The Path Forward"
It out lines the steps to the healing process..there is no magic pill..
You are mourning..
Hunter
Gso88
January 31, 2012 - 11:32am — UsedWELL SAID ...VERY POSITIVE....