What does he want?

What does he want?
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My narc was a total jerk to me, and I compared notes with OW who experienced similar experiences. He was a compulsive liar and a cheat.

When I compared notes with her, I started researching cheaters and liars and stumbled here.. thank god <3

I outed him to his face and he knew that I had spoken to OW. I had even told her about some physical abuse he inflicted on me to see if she had experienced anything like it. I'm sure she must have told him that we spoke by now and what I said because she needed closure. I told him he needed serious help and he admitted he needed help and was going to treat his new girlfriend very than OW and I.

I was NC for about a month and feeling good. My dad got sick and in the hospital and I went on a totally 3 day depressed bender. He is chronically ill so every time he goes in the hospital it is very scary.

I know myself enough to know I was just depressed and doing something self destructive. I truly don't want him in my life. I texted him.

It confused me because when I texted him he was SO nice. I aksed him if he hated me and he told me that he didn't hate anyone but that he just thought it was good that we didn't interact. I told him about my fathers illness and he told me that he really hope he feels better and I told him I was feeling really sad about it and on a bender. I told him apparently I do crazy stuff when I'm on benders. He said "like text me?" haha" I told him yes. He told me to be safe and smart and that life has its ups and downs and I'm just on a down and it will get better. I stupidly asked if I could call him later and he told me that he was really sorry but he just didn't think that was a good idea. He said sorry twice.

I just don't know why he would even ANSWER ME. When I texted him in the first place I really thought he wouldn't. That was the self destructive part. It shocked me that he answered and even more shocked me that he was being so helpful and nice.. and civil I think is the word. Why be civil when I obviously sold him up the creek to his OW who turned out to be the main girlfriend. I assume he would hate me and at the very least ignore me forever because he would know what was at stake.

I know he can't want anything more from me.. I outed him. He knows I know everything..

What does he want??

hayley23's picture

Supply, and someone to get

Supply, and someone to get attention from to drop feed his ego when he feels like it. Remember they will never treat you the 'same' as when you first met. I.e the nice act will only be kept up for the bare minimum amount of time as his ego knows you will put up with his sh*t/aka true self. I went through same issues with mine...... I told him I'm no longer there for him as an ego boost and he claimed he will now delete my number....win for me if it's true! Stay strong hun :)

x

cassandraa's picture

the more that I think about

the more that I think about this the more I realize how many ways his responding benefited HIM. At first I was confused as to why he would even answer.

1) Me contacting him in general when I know who he is is supply. Confirms for him that no matter what he does or how he treats me I will be there. WRONG.

2) He got to look like the good guy.

3) His giving "life advice" about there being ups and downs was condescending and made it look like HE was happy and I was the one struggling.

4) He set me up for future supply because he made it look like he had "changed" and was being faithful to his new girlfriend.

5) It made me question his disorder because he had been so nice.

6) It gave him a power trip to "dupe me" another time. He was probably laughing as he typed. At the very least smiling.

7) He got to reject me which gave him supply because the last time we spoke I outed him and pretty much served it to him on a platter.

8) He admitted to me before that he thinks and plans out everything before he speaks (I guess they DO tell the truth every now and then..) so he preplanned this indefinitely. This is why he only texts and doesn't like talking on the phone. He can't lie and he can't preplan. He had to cut the conversation off when I asked to call.

Its always about what benefits them. I realize that more and more every day.

juliamarie's picture

Heros

Most Narcs like to be heros when given the opportunity. Not out of genuine desire to be good people, but they enjoy the "hero worship"...aka supply that they get when they can be the good guy. My Narc was like this. Mr. Do-gooder...helping orphans, giving money to charity...pretending to be a good church going citizen. He only did it because he liked the admiration that came with it.

Don't be fooled. He's not genuinely concerned about you or your welfare. He just enjoyed being the good guy when YOU know he's really a slime ball.

He did you a favor though...he didn't try to engage you in additional contact. Take this as the ultimate blessing and understand that you need to find support from others when you go on a downward bender. Call some friends or family that can be a support system when you start feeling like you want to text him. Let them know ahead of time that you might need them....give them the heads up that you tend to turn to the Narc when things get bad and that you don't want to do this going forward. His support is not real. Your friends and family's support will be. Don't open a door for additional contact with him.

cassandraa's picture

Juliamarie

I agree. He definitely did me a favor. He could have continued to talk with me. He kept it very short and simple.

I do not want to open that door again for sure. Its just supply for him that I go to him when I'm on a bender, and supply that I was on a bender to begin with.

He doesn't care about me or my fathers illness.. you're right.. he just wanted to look like the good guy because he was blatantly outed.

abreva's picture

the Good Guy

My take on this is that he wants to look like The Good Guy.

This is a classic move by the EXNH-psychopath that I was married to.

And, I agree with the other comments. He now has you primed for his return when he changes his mind.

cassandraa's picture

Abreva

He also probably loved the idea that he felt like he was "duping me" again which makes him feel powerful. Probably also gave him pleasure to know I was suffering.

Asshole.

abreva's picture

yes. powerful too.

it was a perfect power trip for him.

janemarie's picture

This is why they are WHO they

This is why they are WHO they are....they play with our heads to confuse us for THEIR benefit!!!

You know his TRUE self...This niceness is just an act...the world is their stage and we are the players....

He wants to keep you confused...probably as a punishment to you for outing him to the OW...they love to punish in ways that arent straight forward so when you question they can say, "What did I do that was so terrible?"

Mine used to outwardly punish me with silence and then later would say, "I was just trying to protect you!" How could I agrue with that...after all he was thinking of me...so he claimed....

THAT is how they do it....

Dont be fooled by this new character he is portraying.....

xoxo

cassandraa's picture

new character

I think this is very true. I think he actually planted his seeds perfectly for himself.. or so he thinks.

For one, him telling me it wasn't a good idea that we talk proves his whole bit about him changing his ways and being good to his girlfriend. This way, if he comes back in the future when they break up, he can always say "I had the opportunity to interact with you and I didnt want to cheat on my girlfriend. See? I have changed."

He did have me confused for a brief moment as well. He was being so nice, it actually made me feel a pang of guilt for outing him to OW. It made me question my own reality. He was being so supportive and civil that I questioned weather or not the abuse had been that bad. It was.

In his mind, this may prevent me from telling others if I think he's being nice. He probably thinks it will quiet me down.

I'm sure he'll be back when him and his gf break up. And I say when for a reason. It's only a matter of time. It could be days, weeks, years, decades.. but he'll be back.

And I won't buy his bs when he does!

Im_always_fine's picture

Attention...good or bad

Attention...good or bad

cassandraa's picture

alwaysfine

n's really suck, huh?

Hunter's picture

You need to start reading..

You need to start reading.. Lisa's book is the best place to start..
yes walking is correct.. It's all about supply..

Hunter

cassandraa's picture

hunter

so u think he actually still sees me as a future source of supply!? How can I be supply if I know everything about his disorder. I know why I texted him.. I just have NO idea why he would ever everrrrr answer.

Hunter's picture

The simple answer is yes..

The simple answer is yes.. Again please read everything you can..

Narcs never go away..
Hunter

cassandraa's picture

I wish they would. I was so

I wish they would. I was so angry at myself for being self destructive. I really wish he ignored or was mean..when he's civil it makes me question my experiences with him.

TNR1's picture

Welcome to the club. Narcs

Welcome to the club. Narcs don't do anything we expect or want them to do because all they truly care about is themselves. Having you "on the shelf" as "possible future supply" is what he needs right now. That is why a component of NC is actually blocking the Narc from contacting you (unless you would like another serving of pain in the future).

walking_on_sunshine's picture

More supply, just in case

More supply, just in case

Snowflake's picture

Its just a vicious circle unless you break it

Why not look at making your FB account inactive for a while..set up msn for your proper friends to chat on. Burn any bridge he can even try and walk on x