My narcissistic mother...

My narcissistic mother...
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Hi there everyone,
I am 49 years old and life with my mother has been a horror story. I was the only girl and second youngest, raised in a family of seven brothers and they can do no wrong. I have always been my mother's target and last Christmas after a harrowing phone call to her just to say "Merry Christmas" I decided that enough was enough. I have a great relationship with all my brothers and they all acknowledge that she is crazy and a pain in the arse but they really don't "get it" from my point of view. They scoff at the idea that she is jealous of me. She is so obsessively jealous of me that I am surprised that her skin is not the same colour as Shrek's!
When I was seven, my family moved from Iceland to Australia and our home life was complete chaos. Both my parents were alcoholics and pill poppers but my father was by then a broken man. He was so gentle and kind and I believe that my mother basically destroyed him. He always wanted a girl and he adored me. When I was thirteen, he committed suicide and from that day forth, my mother really declared war on me. She was so violent and scary when she drank and if my older brothers were not home, I either hid under a bed or fled the house with my little brother. She quit drinking when she was 60 but it certainly didn't improve her personality and the pill popping never stopped.
She either ignored me or constantly critised and insulted me. She never, ever paid me a compliment or even smiled at me. She is manipulative, cunning and extremely cruel. She has not a shred of empathy in her soul and no insight into the way her behavior impacts on others. She is the centre of the universe and it is ALWAYS about her and everything was someone else's fault ~ usually mine. She never, ever takes responsibility for her bizarre behavior and when confronted with truth and logic, just explodes like a two year old. She only ever apologises if there is something in it for her and every apology was meaningless because it always included the word "but". Many times in my adult life, she has had me curled up on the floor, sobbing until I thought my heart would break. She could do that with just a few choice words and was completely unmoved by my distress. I am a strong woman but she always had the power to do that to me. As the years went by, I just tried harder. I always thought it was me and if only I did more, gave more, that she would love me or at least like me. Well into my 40's, I clung to the futile hope that she would "see" me for the child I was and the woman I became. I feel rediculous now when I think of the lengths I went to in order to "win her". All she ever did was use me.
By the time I was eighteen, I was an alcoholic. I felt so empty and so deeply sad and never knew why. It was like I had a huge hole inside me and I tried desperately to fill it with alcohol. In between terrible relationships and pathetic jobs, I would stay with her and the funny thing was, she was quite nice to me. I know why now. She LIKED seeing me miserable. She fed on my failures and pain. Her eyes would sparkle with excitement and malice when I told her my latest drama. I thought we were "bonding". I was her perfect narcissistic supply and number one slave.
Fifteen years ago, I took myself to rehab and have never touched a single drop of alcohol since. I went to college by day and worked twelve hour shifts at night and got myself a career with Child Protection. I met and married the most insanely wonderful man. Handsome, financially secure, well bred, extemely intelligent and well educated, very strong but so gentle and compassionate. fantastic sense of humour. Suddenly I had a beautiful home, drove a new car, wore stunning clothes and jewellery to die for. The happier I became, the more her hatred grew. She simply could not bear to see me happy. She almost did my poor husband's head in with her vile comments about me. She tried everything to make him leave me but it backfired on her because he stopped speaking to her a long time ago.
I was so damaged and my husband married a very angry woman but he saw the core of me and never gave up on me. He knew where the damage came from and he has been my rock. He cherishes me like I have never been cherished in my life. I wake up every day and think to myself, "Wow!! He chose ME"!! He still can't wrap his head around the way my mother has treated me. He was adopted and his mother loved him with every fibre of her soul. I was only with him for about two months when he said, "Oh my God! Your mother is so jealous of you"!! I was horrified and denied it vehemently!! I could not fathom that a mother could be jealous of her own daughter.
Two years ago, we moved to the other side of the country to be near my ailing father-in-law. He has nobody but his son. My mother was LIVID. Not because she would miss ME but because she would miss what I DO for her. She refused to even say goodbye to me the day I flew out. I flew backwards and forwards many times to stay with her and be her personal servant which she loved. It was horrendously stressful for me and I always came back shattered. During every visit, she never once asked me about my life over here. She has never shown any interest in my life unless it was painful for me. She saw me radiant with happiness and I saw such naked hatred in her eyes. Last December at 83, she went into a nursing home so my usefullness was over and she became completely hostile every time I called her. Christmas was the final straw for me. Being 3000 miles away from her is such a blessing!!! She is so toxic and did so much damage to me. I could go on and on but will leave it for now and go have dinner with my beautiful man but I have a million stories up my sleeve to share!
Hugs to you all!!
stelpan62.

brinamarie's picture

Thank you so much for sharing

Thank you so much for sharing your story. your mother sounds just like mine, a nasty, EVIL, vile bitch who emotionally tortured me for 19 years..

and still does. but luckily i live in a different state than her.

your story gives me hope that i'm not "damaged" goods. that my bf, possibly future husband, will accept me for ME.. the good, the bad, and the ugly.

I worry so much I will become just like her: bitter, angry and nasty. Sometimes I have my moments. I try to control them. I hope I can overcome them.

xoxoxoo

greengirl91's picture

Oh my God..first of all

Oh my God..first of all congratulations, you are a survivor and an ispiration!

Your mother sounds so much like my own N mother.

"She has never shown any interest in my life unless it was painful for me." - I identified with this and with so many things..

Bless you and good luck in everything you do!

I am away from my N mother, and sometimes her hatred comes back, and then I have to remember the horror I have been through to stay away.

Thank you for sharing.

x

kartaga's picture

i really admire you. you

i really admire you. you deserve all the happiness.

i have one question...when you heard for the first time from others that there was something wrong with your mom, how long did you dismiss it and when did you start to realize they were right? the thing is, im trying to explain the same thing to a friend of mine who has the most toxic mother i ever met. can you give me some advice how to help?

stelpan62's picture

Hi there from Australia!

Dear kartaga,
Thank you for your very kind message and how lovely that you care enough about your friend to try to help her. I always knew there was something wrong with my mother and I dismissed my feelings and comments from others until I was in my forties. I found it impossible to fathom that a mother could feel this way about her own daughter. After I made the extremely difficult decision to cut her completely out of my life ~ I started to seriously research Narcissistic Personality Disorder and I was just amazed! Finally, I realised that it was not me and it never was. I was a wonderful daughter and she threw me away like so much trash. Any guilt I was feeling disappeared.
There is something you can do for your friend for a start. Buy her a book called, "Will I Ever Be Good Enough"? by Dr Karyl Mcbride. She herself is the daughter of an NPD and this book is aimed at the daughters of narcissistic women. It helped me immensely to understand why she is the way she is and gave me a great sense of peace about my decision to never see her again. It helped me to understand and accept that she is simply not capable of loving me and I will never get from her what I deserved ~ her unconditional love and support. There is another fantastic book I read called "The Seven Sins Of Narcissism" (or maybe the seven deadly sins of narcissism)and after reading that, I actually felt compassion for my mother. It explains really well WHY they became the way they did. I would highly recommend that your friend reads both these books.
It's been the most wonderful year of my life! My husband says it's incredible how calm and soft I have become without my mother's stalking and toxic impact. She never even asks my brothers about me. I outwore my usefulness and then her hatred really came to the fore. I don't think she even gives me a passing thought and she probably wouldn't care if I dropped dead tomorrow...
The other thing you could suggest to your friend is to join a site where she can VENT!! That really helped me and I got so many lovely responses from other women in my position. There is a site called support.com and there is a massive amount of posts by daughters of NPDs. I wrote many those first few months when I was still hurting so much. This is very important for your friend because nobody else really gets it. Your friend has to understand that it is not HER. My self esteem was in a sewer for so many years because of my poisonous mother and her nasty head games almost destroyed me. They love to play "divide and conquer". She tried so hard to set brothers against me and was always telling me lies about the horrible things they said about me. It never worked because they love me and know she is crazy. But her craziness is overshadowed by her incredible skills of manipulation and lies. She knows exactly what she is doing.
Just be there for your friend and see if you can convince her to read these books and do some research. There are sites that list all the traits of a narcissistic mother and your friend will be stunned and relieved to know that she is not alone. Also I was bored one day and was watching Dr Phil online and found two fantastic episodes about NPD's and their daughters. One episode was called, "Me, me, me selfish people" and the other was "Forgiving the unforgivable". Your friend would benefit from watching them. There are different types of NPD's and mine is the malignant, vicious type. But both episodes clearly show a woman who is the centre of the universe and is incapable of loving her beautiful daughters.
At the end of the day, only your friend can decide whether she can cut off all contact or find ways to disassociate herself from her mother's nastiness. Whatever she decides is best for her ~ just be there for her. All my friends have been absolutely wonderful and so relieved that I finally woke up to her. Funny but all THEIR mothers love me!!
My heart really goes out to your friend and I commend you for caring enough to write to me. You are obviously a wonderful and loyal friend to her. I don't know if I have helped in any way but I do hope you can take something away from my letter to help her. Write to me any time...
Cheers and all the best to you and your friend!
stelpan62

kartaga's picture

i have met that woman and i

i have met that woman and i started to read about the disorder. she fits in perfectly. i sent my friend the links with notes on how to recognize narcissistic mother. to see through the manipulations and how she is not doing anything that doesnt suit her. my friend admits every symptom, but just cant admit the diagnosis. i really tried with big emails, giving examples in detail to try not to sound like some psychologist, but nothing...i just end up with the stubborn denial.

is the denial so hard beacause of the trauma? or can she see it but not just admit to me? i know its hard to admit yourself something like that....but...that woman is destroying her childs life. my friend is 40 already. is it too late?

my friend tells me im pushing too hard and making pressure. but she heard some things only from me for the first time. i know its overwhelming to hear it. but she doesnt want to read anything about it. i had to force her to read the links. and still denial.

shall i let it go or continue? wait for the to admit to herself or push further with my talks, mails and links?

thank you for your fast answer and kind words.
i said i admired you and you really give me hope that a person can survive that kind of abuse from someone who failed as a mother, and that she can get her life back and the happiness she deserves.

Used's picture

kartaga

I know you mean well with your friend, but you need to back off, she is not ready to cut the cord...
I have the mother from hell...up until 10 years ago, NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO SAY A BAD WORD TO ME ABOUT HER...
I had to come to the relization on my own[much like myexnh and exn]...
I then CUT THE CORD FROM HER AND NEVER WENT BACK...
SHE STILL TRIES THRU MY FAMILY TO COME BACK, AND I GET LETTERS OF APOLOGY...SHE SAYS SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE DONE TO ME YADA YADA YADA....I IGNORE IT ALL...
IF MAYBE SHE HAD TRIED TO MAKE AMENDS WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER...THEN MAYBE I WOULD HAVE FELT DIFFRENT....
SHE IS 87 THIS YEAR...IT TOOK HER UNTIL 77 YEARS OF AGE TO APOLOGISE.....WHEN SHE WAS OLD- ILL- AND NEEDED LOOKING AFTER.....NEED I SAY MORE, BUT I HAD TO FIND OUT IN MY OWN TIME....AS YOUR FRIEND WILL...GOOD LUCK TO YOU FOR BEING A GOOD FRIEND, BUT THIS HAS TO BE HER CALL.....X

kartaga's picture

i understand. tell me just

i understand.

tell me just one thing, what happened in your case for you to make you see it? did it accumulate or did it came to you in sudden moment?

Used's picture

BOTH...IN AWAY...When i was

BOTH...IN AWAY...
When i was 40, I became anoretic...and tho I was very ill, I began to see, 1 who was there for me, and I began to see people in a diffrent way...she said to me one day, I would rather not see you when you look like that[i looked like a tiny child]and I said ,you said you were embarresed to be seen with me when I was fat, and now you are embarresed again now I am skinny....she said WHY CANT YOU JUST BE NORMAL....AND I SAID B/C OF THE WAY YOU HAVE TREATED ME, I NO LONGER NO WHAT NORMAL IS.....
I cut all contact with her.....then 8 years ago I met exn, she had phoned one of my family saying please can you get name to talk to me and try and work things out.....SO YES I PHONED HER....I TOLD HER I HAD MET EXN, AND HOW HE REMINDED ME OF MY SELF....AND SHE SAID....OH HE IS NO GOOD THEN....WTF.......I PUT THE PHONE DOWN CHANGED MY NUMBERS AND HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO HER AGAIN...
INCIDENTLY RE ANOREXIA AND WHO WAS THERE FOR ME...IT WAS NOONE...SO I DIVORCED EXNH, DROPPED EVERYONE WE HAD KNOWN B/T/W US...AND DROPPED MY MOTHER......ALL THESE PEOPLE HAD THERE OWN AGENDA..AND I WAS NOT IT...WHEN I WAS ILL AND WEAK... I WAS NOT GOING TO SUPPLY THEM ANY LONGER....8YEARS LATER I MET EXN , BUT THAT IS ANOTHER STORY...LOL

kartaga's picture

my friend thinks that she can

my friend thinks that she can reason with her mother and everything will be ok. that her mother does this cause she doesnt know any better...that everyone in her family is reasonable and smart and her mother would come to her senses. i told my friend her to be prepared for something else. her mother will have to accept certain things forcefully and not before hurting her child in the most despicable way, with silent treatments and hurtful words and sulking and playing martyr. i cant even watch that happen.

thank you for your answer. i really appreciate it.

Used's picture

You friend is doing that b/c

You friend is doing that b/c she WANTS IT TO BE OK....it never will be, her mother will never change, she wouldnt even think she had to.....your friend LOVES HER MOTHER AT THE MOMENT...JUST PRAY ONE DAY SHE WILL LOOK AT HER AND WILL RELIZE SHE DOESNT LOVE HER ANYMORE....THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN MY CASE...
Sometimes its not even love, its obsession with trying to get SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER VALIDATED YOU...TO VALIDATE AND MAKE YOU FEEL WORTHWHILE...IT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN....
IF MY MOTHER HAD TRIED TO MAKE AMENDS AT ANYTIME, I WOULD HAVE WELCOMED IT, BUT SHE DIDNT SHE WAITED TILL SHE WAS 77 YEARS OLD...AND BY THEN I WAS TOLD OLD TO EVEN CARE....

Nanny's picture

NARC mother

I hung in there for many decades with my N-M because I too needed to be validated, and mothers are supposed to be child's first exposure to love and caring. When I would walk away from her, people would say "well, it's your MOTHER, how can you NOT talk to her?" So I felt guilty and contacted her, still needing to hear her say something positive to make me feel worthy. Never happened! My N-M is now 87 years old and I walked away forever this time in November when I asked my dear husband of 22 years to step in and he did by leaving her a horrible message on her answering machine, and she was livid. She deserved every word he said. Now my brother and his family are trying to deal with her. Guess he and wife think they'll get different results but now she's drinking heavily (she's also alcoholic) - what a combination! Narcissism and Alcoholism. I'm healing thanks to Al-Anon, this wonderful website, amazing husband and loving family and friends.

stelpan62's picture

Denial...

Hi there kartaga,
It's sad to hear that your friend is so deeply in denial but I understand that completely. You mustn't give up hope for her and don't believe it is too late. I am almost 50 and did not give up on mine until Christmas 2010. Narcisisstic mothers are VERY powerful and controlling and they know ALL our buttons. Some of my mother's words felt like a stab to the heart. Even when I knew she was making it up to hurt me. In fact, I think that made it hurt more. To think she went to all that effort and thought, just to savour and enjoy my pain and distress. So I just tried harder.
The umbilical cord is an almost impossible wonder of nature to sever. I worked in Child Protection for eight years and I saw the most horrifically abused children but they STILL wanted their mother!! It is a natural and normal instinct for us to want to be loved by our mothers. We are born of them and drank milk from their bodies. It makes no difference if we or 4 or 40 ~ we still want and need our mother's love, empathy, support and complete acceptance. We didn't ask to be born and they owe us that. Unfortunately some of us don't get it but I finally realised that hey, it's not the end of the world! I am a deeply loved human being ~ just not by my mother.
You may need to back off on this issue with your friend ~ for now. It didn't matter who expressed concern about my drinking and how many loved ones begged me stop ~ I just woke up on day and said to myself, "Right! I will never drink again". Fifteen years flown by. It was the same thing with my mother. One day I just decided that enough was enough. The fight was just gone from me. It was such a relif but very hard. I won't be caving in. The same thing will happen to your friend. One fine day, her mother is going to do or say something that just tips her over the edge. She will have a lightbulb moment. The day WILL come.
You don't want to alienate this obviously dear friend so if I were you, I would leave it alone. But guess what honey? You have planted the seed and it will grow. All that info that she doesn't want to hear or read is still getting into her head. One of my beautiful brothers planted my seed by telling me that I was beautiful and intelligent but was going to end up a "bag lady". I was of course completely outraged but that stayed in my mind and that seed grew. I stopped drinking soon after that.
Your friend (bless her) will keep trying. She will jump when she calls. She will do more and more. She will take more hurts and insults than any human being should have to bear. She will make excuses for her. She will give and give until there is nothing left to give. Her mother is no doubt an emotional vampire and I bet you have despaired at the strain on your friend. But this is a journey only she can take and you can be there when she needs a shoulder and a caring pair of ears. Just listen to her. That day will come ~ I promise you.
What a good friend you are and you have done much more for her than you realise. You have planted that seed. Your friend will eventually come to the realisation that her mother is never, ever going to change and is is fact going to get worse. At 84, my mother is even more vicious and manipulative and how the staff at the nursing must hate her. I am glad I don't have to visit her because I would feel so embarressed. The scary thing is that for a narcissist, aging is the ultimate injury. They start losing their power, their control and their looks. They have to depend on others when they truly believe they are so superior and "above" everyone else. My mother has no sign of dementia and is in fact an intellectual ~ albiet a crazy one and as time goes by she just gets more savage. Oh she was so beautiful ~ I'm talking REALLY beautiful. Now she is a frail, tiny and ugly woman. Her face is just ravaged by anger and bitterness. The hatred in her eyes when she looked at me sometimes was so naked and intense that I physically took a step back. Your friend's mother is going to get worse and more demanding. Your friend is her narcissistic supply and she will feed from her relentlessly. UNTIL ~ your friend has had enough. Does she have siblings to help and support her or is she mother's favorite feed?
Don't lose hope for her ~ I am living proof that we can and do deserve the happiness our mothers don't want us to have...
Cheers
stelpan62

kartaga's picture

she has a brother, but he has

she has a brother, but he has a family of his own. of course, my friends mother cant stand her daughter-in-law. everyone tiptoes around her, but my friend takes it the hardest. her brother even pushes her to please their mother since he cant, he has a family.

my friends mother was also very beautiful, but exactly as you say, bitterness and constant spite deformed her face.

i will back off. i can see her hurting by listening to my words as well as her mothers. its so unfair and, until i saw it with my own eyes, completely unimaginable to me.

thank you so much for your reply, you brought tears to my eyes. i hope you are surrounded with all the wonderful people like yourself.

take care,

kartaga

Pride and Shame's picture

My Mother

I found this forum to help deal with a narcissistic/psychopath boyfriend of 2 years, from whom I am now NC almost a year.

He was my mother in another body. I am just now starting to deal with this, that I was raised by a woman with NPD. Same things you describe: the anger, the raging, the envy. I, as the oldest, was the one who tried the most to make her happy. She poisoned us all against my father and made his life a living hell.

I'm exhausted already, thinking I was done with the XNB, now to undertake another exorcism.

Now I see why I thought I always knew HIM. He was a Trojan Horse. I started therapy and after hearing about my mother she said, "I am surprised that this was the first relationship like this for you". She KNEW EXACTLY why I would be attracted to these kinds of personality-disordered people. Better late than never on the road to normal health and happiness. I am in my late 40's.

Thank you for sharing your story. I hear your pain and relate to it very strongly.

Emva's picture

I have to wonder how many of

I have to wonder how many of us ended up here because of our parents ... We ended up accepting God knows how much subtle or overt abuse and devaluation because we had been carefully trained to do so?

I have issues with my mother that I don't think I will ever get to the bottom of, and some of the above posts are ringing such bells for me.