Wonder if he Loved you? New ppl or veterans: Is this normal?

Wonder if he Loved you? New ppl or veterans: Is this normal?
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I am just learning at all these horrible realities about my husband who I happen to "love". I learned that it doesn't matter because we are all so badly hurt and forever changed. At the same time during this pain and discovery, we are strong and piecing our personality back together. Becoming stronger and smarter. I feel a strong urge to read ALL books on N's so I can master the term. Be careful (if your new) cuz the more you learn the more PISSED you get that you could be so blind. Not my fault tho? What? Confussion sets in and you think "No, he isn't a true N cuz he doesn't do this or that". You seem to sway for a few weeks. Yes he is, no he isn't. Its exhausting. Truth is, you wouldn't be doing all this reasearch for nothing? Then dig deeper. Yes, its not that you were blind, you were in love with nobody, an image? Bummer, your heartbroken, and mentally sick of him. I'm not sure but I think I fell out of love with him? I'm trying to look at it this way, "he died!" My husband was diagnosed with an illness that only 10 % of them survive to become normal! That's like finding out he has cancer and only 6 months to live. Also, this is a small chapter in my life that gave me my 2 month old son and taught me so much to pass on to my girls. Half blessed? Who knows, everything happends for a reason.
Well, at least in my case I'm feeling and thinking all of this. I figured all this out in the last 9 weeks and it's been a whirlwind. Is this normal to be at this stage already? I'm scared to cave in, I made great plans. Heaven help me if I stay this man's wife or allow him to live around my sweet daughters. I know I won't. I read all about how to leave properly. I'm just sad I can't see his face when it goes down. he will know I carefully and slowly planned this while being calm and quiet everyday. He still thinks there is a chance. I have time to get it all set up. I can't wait to share with you wonderful people here how I start NC. Sure to be one for the books. I thank all of you for your support! XOXO

Trust, then verify~

lisalisa47's picture

Hey TIMMYBOY12

Funny, i was just reading that one and was going to reply before i got the phone call that kind of screwed up my day (but i won't let it, in fact im more pissed than hurt)

Yes, I flipfloped back and forth between wondering if my narc was truly a narc, or just someone who needed some understanding.

Finally realizing he is the highest form of the former, I blamed myself a bit for not seeing the signs, but then realized that he intended to blind me to them by BINDING me to HIMSELF with his bait. I remember that i once told him (probably about 2 mos ago) that when we met on the other side I would probably thank him for teaching me important things i needed to know. (AT that time i was only referring to the cheating i figured out, but he never admitted to). He just smiled when i said that.

After finding out more, and worse depraved things he has done, I still believe 100% that this experience was for a reason to teach me what i did not learn from the lesser malignant narcs i had always dated.

In my stronger moments (which are becoming more frequent thankfully) i have to say i have never loved myself more or looked at myself with more compassion than i do now. In my weaker moments, it still stuns me that I devoted myself too him, and it turned out to mean NOTHING to him.

But, I did get great things out of this "cannot relate-tionship", and that is A great DOG. A strong determination to know myself and love myself, like the self confident woman i appear to most others, yet have never fully been confident in, AND the releasing of guilt i have always taken on for the sins of others (by this i mean the men (narcs) i have loved in my life).

It also makes me feel connected to help others with any wisdom i have gained. I still love him - as a fellow human being - and I am sincere when i say I don't wish to trash him, he does that himself every day, and the price paid is an awesome self hate that probably could supercede any bad or negative feeling i've ever had about myself. L

ShaynasMommy's picture

lisa lisa

"I remember that i once told him (probably about 2 mos ago) that when we met on the other side I would probably thank him for teaching me important things i needed to know."

Not to question your spiritual beliefs, but are you certain he's going to the same place as you? I think where he's going, he's gonna need A LOT of sunscreen! LOL

And if you had added THAT into your previous conversation, I think it would have wiped that shit eating grin right off his face

gettinbetter's picture

Last Night I wondered...

Why? Why would God allow this to happen to me twice. Today the answer was revealed. I thought God must be punishing me. What I really think he was doing was providing an answer. You see I never got over my relationship with N that I had as a young college girl. I never understood what I had done wrong. I loved him so much. Its like I took everything from that relationship and put it in a storage room and never looked back. I went on to marry a wonderful guy but I never truly forgot the N and from time to time but not that often would think of him and how much I had loved him. You could say it haunted me. What had I done wrong?

So 15 years later.. I believe he was put back into my life so that I could get an answer and have some closure. His behavior would bring me to this site so I could finally know It wasnt me. I had done nothing wrong.

outoftheblue's picture

Sick of it

I just read what you wrote and it gave me the chills. It is exactly, I mean exactly, what has happened to me. I was contacted on FB after 14 years by the "one who got away" who was amazing to me until he wasn't. I'm happily married to a great guy, but holy crap the exN's d&d was so uncalled for and unexpected that I find myself here trying to make sense of it all. I don't want to let it go, because it means that it all was crap, and I just can't wrap my head around the idea that he found me again as 'supply' and not just to reconnect and maybe resolve some unfinished business. I haven't written my story, but man can you imagine looking someone up that you allegedly loved in 1995 for the purpose of tearing them down? I cannot move on past it, it's literally eating me up inside.
I totally understand what you mean by being haunted. I never have given my hb my entire heart. There has been a piece of glass in there for 15 years now and i never ever could have predicted just how evil anyone could be to someone who they supposedly loved. One of the last things he said to me before the d&d was that I obviously moved on much easier bc I met my hb right away, and it's taken him 15 years to move on. Then 2 days later came the d&d, in an email responding to mine where i wished him a happy life with his soon to be wife and a lifetime of happiness. He responded, among other things, that I was absolutely nothing to him, never, hasn't thought about me In 15 years, "only a fool is happy all the time". My head is still spinning.

cluelessuntilnow's picture

out of the blue

I am another 1995 victim. That is the year he disappeared out of my and our son's life. And like you he came back. I have been told exactly the same thing "he hadn't thought about me in 15 years". I am sure sick of it and I will find a million things about your story when you finally post it that will be similar to ours. Just today, I was thinking why in God's name did he come back to do this. Seriously...it is mind boggling. I too thought he was trying to resolve things. Not so much. We are here if you need us. xo

Susan32's picture

"Only a fool is happy all the time"

Whoa, do these Narcs/Psychs follow the SAME script???

When I wished the ex-Psych professor a happy life with his curator girlfriend (they were engaged), he threw a total fit. I told him it was closure, MY WAY... whether he wanted it or not. And his favorite saying was "Only a fool is happy all the time." Ugh.

I'm sorry you went through that agony. You're worth so much more. As for him? He's scum. Doesn't he know he's giving himself bad juju when he's dissing the very person who's wishing him a happy life?

outoftheblue's picture

Thanks

For the laugh - I can't believe anyone else has heard someone say something that utterly absurd. I actually do feel better. I go back and forth between just believing everything that he wrote, that I was absolutely meaningless, and believing he was a narc and was just acting out when he realized I wasn't available for him to leech on.
Bad juju - totally love it

blueeyes's picture

That is why your sick of it

I have been married twice. Two Narcs but soooo opposite people that I never knew. Educate and don't stop! Post forever, just take forever out of them! I can't wait to actually one day share my life with someone who GIVES back! It will be a luxury! Girl, your right about closure. Do u have closure? I know I won't! That's something I'm willing to throw away! Now he's sorry and truly loves me? Nope, he's sorry he lost me. I know that yours is too!Trust, then verify~