Nothing makes sense

Nothing makes sense
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I’ve just come out of a relationship with a guy I know believe to be a narc, maybe one of you can help me understand if I am right? I’ve never been this confused before!

It wasn’t a long relationship, in fact my shortest ever, 4 months, but was so intense. My ex-husband and I became friends with him and as my marriage deteriorated he became my confidant. When I finally decided to leave my husband he started telling me he has feelings for me, that he feels a deep connection with me and for the first time in his life he sees a future with someone. I knew about his bad track record with relationships, they all lasted between 3-6 months only (he is 36 years old...), and he has had an enormous amount of one-night stands. But against my better judgement I fell for him. He is extremely charming, good-looking and gave me the attention I needed when I was going through my divorce.

The first two months were like heaven. It felt like no one has ever understood me as well as him and he made me feel sexy, loved and special. I did however gradually start to notice things. He comes across as very popular when in fact he has no real friends, writes people off like they’re nothing, is constantly talking about what a great catch he is, and how he thinks everyone is envious of him. I brushed it off as normal arrogance… Then I lost my job and suffered from severe anxiety. At a time when I feel he should’ve supported me, he told me my ‘negative energy’ is stressing him out and he needs some space. Yet later the same day he phones me to get together that evening.

From there on I noticed how he got more controlling and critical of me. From what food I shop for, how I cook, what music I listen to – stupid little things. I noticed that sex with him was very impersonal, no eye contact or kissing. I also started to feel insecure in the relationship, he never told me he loved me anymore and was talking about how commitment-phobic he is. He would constantly talk about exes and talk like we will not be together anymore in a few months time. When I asked him where I stood with him, he responded by saying ‘how am I suppose to know where I stand with you...’ I felt confused. Then one day he tells me I annoy and irritate him (can’t give me examples of what) and says he needs space. About 4 days after I bump into him and I ask when can I see him again. Very casually he says we can maybe do something that Saturday. Again I was very confused, it seemed like he wasn't sure if he wanted to see me. I felt like he was playing mind-games with me. I ended up seeing him quickly the Friday night before I went to friends. He acted all normal, in fact we had sex and he said he missed me.

So we ended up going for lunch on the Saturday, but when I asked him about a weekend away we planned he said he’s not sure he still wants to go, no reason... I tried to talk about what is going on between us, especially after the week apart, to which he responds he ‘doesn’t want to talk about feelings.’ But after pushing him he told me he doesn’t feel the same about me anymore (he doesn’t know why), isn’t attracted to me anymore and feels we’ll be better as friends. I was devastated, no proper explanation as to how or what I did ‘wrong.’ And just complete rejection and silence from him after that. I felt so used.

However, I bumped into him again a few days after (small town…). I said to him that it was really harsh to tell me he’s not attracted to me anymore, and then he says he never said it! I felt like I was going crazy, did I remember things wrong?! He also then tells me that I dumped myself because I wanted to talk about feelings and he had to be 'honest', therefore it was all my fault. It broke my heart, how could I be punished for wanting to talk about feelings?! All the blame was put on me. And then the final blow… Last week I go with friends to a bar and there he is, with another girl. He completely ignores me (after he repeatedly said he wanted us to stay friends) and when I asked him who the girl is he says it’s only a friend, she’s not interested in him. I’ve never seen this ‘friend’ before and as this is a small town, I heard the next day he hit on the girl a few weeks before. Well, my friends starting bad-mouthing him and the angrier I got I also started saying bad (yet VERY true) things about him. One thing led to another and we ended up having an enormous fight in front of everyone, which ended with him pushing and shoving me to the ground outside. All the time telling me I ‘f-up everything.’ Since then he has emailed me, no apology or anything, said he did what he had to do to get away from me. And he still wants to be friends but it will take him a while to get over this so he will let me know when he’s ready to be friends again.

So that’s my very long story which has left me completely heart-broken and confused. From what I’ve read about NPD I wonder if I ‘outed’ him in public last week, hence the massive anger? Please help, I know it’s an ex but I need to make sense of all this!

morty's picture

Oh God Marie

Read my story. So many similarities. The Ex N in my life was also 36 and also preyed upon my vulnerabilities associated with a rocky marriage. Please read my story and then let me know if there's any advice or insights I can give you. Four months may seem like a short time but because these guys have a talent for making the relationship seem like the most intense thing you've ever experienced, it will feel like your life has changed.

The best advice is twofold: 1) remain absolutely NC (no contact) and 2) use this experience to learn more about yourself and what you want out of life. But don't give him the credit for it. The credit is all yours.

marie27m's picture

I've been trying to find

I've been trying to find your story but I'm problems searching on the site, where can I find your story?

I am trying really hard today to feel better. I have to admit, I so desperately want to contact him, maybe he'll accept me for who I am this time... But as I write this I realise how ridiculous it is actually! The fact that I have to force myself to have no contact with someone says it all, this isn't a healthy relationship or someone who cares. If only I can stay in this state of mind.

morty's picture

Marie - I understand

I understand how you feel. Perhaps this will help - instead of thinking about him accepting you for who you are ... put the focus on yourself. YOU have to accept you for who you are; not him. It's hard to do this when you feel so affronted and so rejected. But this isn't about him - it's about you. Dig deep, understand what happened, take the time to grieve. If you feel like crying, then cry. And don't feel guilty about it. If you feel like eating ice cream, then do it. Do whatever you need to do to feel better about yourself (but nothing desructive - keep it all positive).

Here's the link to my story: http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2010/08/11/mortys-story

Hang in there Marie. You'll get through this, even though right now it doesn't feel like you will. We all understand.

jaycee's picture

nothing makes sense

marie, you said it, nothing makes sense. Not with a pathological narc. they are selfish, cruel, and swoop down on their prey, its seems he knew you were having problems with your husband and he was waiting to swoop down like an seagull over water. the pain is horrible when you fall for them, just be grateful you didnt move in with him, or worse marry him. you really got his goat when you outed him, they get vicious. my hN gets crazy when he is outed or caught lying, which is daily, but if its when others are involved he goes ballistic. they like their secret, the secret of their darkness, they dont want others to think they are anything but great. and its funny, they always act like they are so well liked and the big men on campus, but in reality, they have no real friends and are lonely because, deep down, they have discarded the world. and they know it. i pray you stay away from him, unlike me, i put up with it for twenty four years, and now, i know, he is the worse kind of narc, a sexual, emotionally null and void monster, who actually gave up the only and best friend he ever had, me. im still learning, but come here the women are fabulous and they will help you, i read here alot and post alot, and am still struggling everyday, but together we can all become stronger and wiser. good luck to you, i will keep you in my prayers....jaycee........

marie27m's picture

Thank you for your words of

Thank you for your words of support! I am so grateful I came across this site, it's hard to talk to my friends about this as they don't fully understand. I am completely obsessed about finding as much info as possible on NPD... I am relieved and sad at the same time it ended so quickly, like you say, at least we didn't get married, but at the same time I still feel like I've lost a great love. He also lost his one and only friend, me, I would've done anything for him although he probably doesn't even care about that. It kills me! Just pray I stay strong, I am still very far from the point of putting myself first and looking out for what's best for me, I hope I get there soon... I'll think of you as well...
xxx

Sherbear's picture

Whew Marie.....

Yes, I believe the public outing of him was a massive blow to his ego. They like to keep their narc ways in private, and keep up with their facade in public. First of all, GOOD FOR YOU!! Every part of you is saying that something is wrong and YES, something is wrong and it is not YOU. My ex narc was VERY similar, in fact I wondered if you were with my ex narc!! Second, I know the confusion you are feeling. It is overwhelming and crushing and it makes no sense at all what they have done. How they can suck you in so deeply and then spit you out as if you meant nothing to them. It makes NO sense. I'm so sorry you are going thru this but only you is going to be able to pull yourself out. HE WILL NEVER CHANGE. You have now met the real man, shocking as it is.

But know that you will be okay. You have got to cut off contact with him. He is still trying to control you by saying when He will be ready to be friends....as if YOU want to be friends with someone like that. When I completely went NC, my narc was furious! He wanted me there like puppet on a string, so he could feed off of me while giving absolutely nothing back to me. And he told me that I was the psycho and that I obviously had way different ideas of what a few months together meant. He said it was my loss that we couldn't be friends. Give me a break!!

Today is Day 18, no contact and I pray I am strong and remember the hurt and misery that comes along with having him in my life. I am focused on me again, which feels great. And you will get there too....Just be strong, sweetie. Stay strong, believe in better for yourself, and choose to cut him out of your life so you can live normal and be appreciated for the awesome woman that you really are. Thinking of you! AND POST ON THIS SITE AND READ THE STORIES AND GAIN STRENGTH FROM THESE AMAZING WOMEN!

xoxo,
Sherry

morty's picture

I Wondered at First Too

Sherbear - I agree. When I first started reading Marie's story, I was like, "Oh shit - is she writing about HIM?!?!."

Just goes to show you, they all operate from the same Play Book.

Marie - when you read these posts, many times you'll cry but sometimes you'll laugh with amazement when you see that they all say the SAME EXACT words to their victims. Your jaw will drop.

marie27m's picture

Thanks SO much Sherry, I

Thanks SO much Sherry, I cried now when I read your post! I have a massive sense of relieve to know that these things that happened weren't all in my head, I honestly thought I was going crazy. At first I had regrets about the whole fight last week, but maybe it all happened for a reason, I saw a side I never knew. When I started reading about NPD after this I suddenly recognized all the behaviour, but something deep inside made me doubt myself - again! I kept reading and reading and hoping that I would find something that contradicts it, that he is actually 'human' and might change. But I came to the crushing conclusion he won't. I feel so weak for still loving him and for missing him, but I realise now that I only feel that for the man I thought he was. And I have never loved someone that deeply! I just hope this gut-wrenching heartbreak will end one day. I still feel so blind for not being able to realise what's going on earlier.

Now I have to stay strong and make NC, it is day 3 now and it has been the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I realise now how he is trying to control me still, and maybe punishing me by telling me he'll let me know when to be friends again? I will keep on reading the posts on this site to remind me to make no contact, as I believe the second time around is much worse, and I'm afraid I can't take anymore... Please hope I stay strong!! Thank you so much for your words of encouragement, I already feel a little stronger! I just have to find a way to built my self-esteem again so I never fall into the same trap again...
xxx

morty's picture

The BS Friends Line

is just his way of trying to control you. He's dropping you crumbs. Because he wants you strung along so that one day, if he decides he wants to hang out with you again as "friends" perhaps one thing will lead to another "naturally" and you'll let him have some friends-with-benefits action. He wants you on his timeline, his schedule and his terms only. This is not someone who cares about you. As hard as that is to fathom. Believe me, I could not have written those words and believed what I was writing when I was at the stage you're at. This will be a process and it will take time. You just need to spoil yourself and allow yourself to feel every feeling you need to feel. This is the place to come if you have no friends who understand.