Talking to a Narcissist- The wepon of Language

Talking to a Narcissist- The wepon of Language
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"A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use."

In the narcissist's surrealistic world, even language is pathologized. It mutates into a weapon of self-defense, a verbal fortification, a medium without a message, replacing words with duplicitous and ambiguous vocables.

Narcissists (and, often, by contagion, their unfortunate victims) don't talk, or communicate. They fend off. They hide and evade and avoid and disguise. In their planet of capricious and arbitrary unpredictability, of shifting semiotic and semantic dunes - they perfect the ability to say nothing in lengthy, Castro-like speeches.

The ensuing convoluted sentences are arabesques of meaninglessness, acrobatics of evasion, lack of commitment elevated to an ideology. The narcissist prefers to wait and see what waiting brings. It is the postponement of the inevitable that leads to the inevitability of postponement as a strategy of survival.

It is often impossible to really understand a narcissist. The evasive syntax fast deteriorates into ever more labyrinthine structures. The grammar tortured to produce the verbal Doppler shifts essential to disguise the source of the information, its distance from reality, the speed of its degeneration into rigid "official" versions.

Buried under the lush flora and fauna of idioms without an end, the language erupts, like some exotic rash, an autoimmune reaction to its infection and contamination. Like vile weeds it spread throughout, strangling with absent minded persistence the ability to understand, to feel, to agree, to disagree and to debate, to present arguments, to compare notes, to learn and to teach.

Narcissists, therefore, never talk to others - rather, they talk at others, or lecture them. They exchange subtexts, camouflage-wrapped by elaborate, florid, texts. They read between the lines, spawning a multitude of private languages, prejudices, superstitions, conspiracy theories, rumors, phobias and hysteria's. Theirs is a solipsistic world - where communication is permitted only with oneself and the aim of language is to throw others off the scent or to obtain Narcissistic Supply.

This has profound implications. Communication through unequivocal, unambiguous, information-rich symbol systems is such an integral and crucial part of our world - that its absence is not postulated even in the remotest galaxies which grace the skies of science fiction. In this sense, narcissists are nothing short of aliens. It is not that they employ a different language, a code to be deciphered by a new Freud. It is also not the outcome of upbringing or socio-cultural background.

It is the fact that language is put by narcissists to a different use - not to communicate but to obscure, not to share but to abstain, not to learn but to defend and resist, not to teach but to preserve ever less tenable monopolies, to disagree without incurring wrath, to criticize without commitment, to agree without appearing to do so. Thus, an "agreement" with a narcissist is a vague expression of intent at a given moment - rather than the clear listing of long term, iron-cast and mutual commitments.

The rules that govern the narcissist's universe are loopholed incomprehensibles, open to an exegesis so wide and so self-contradictory that it renders them meaningless. The narcissist often hangs himself by his own verbose Gordic knots, having stumbled through a minefield of logical fallacies and endured self inflicted inconsistencies. Unfinished sentences hover in the air, like vapor above a semantic swamp.

Sam Vaknin

wholeagain's picture

Great article Betty

Boy does this all sound familiar--I laughed when I read:

>>they perfect the ability to say nothing in lengthy, Castro-like speeches.<<

Ain't that the truth!

morty's picture

Criticize Without Commitment

Betty - thanks. This paragraph sums up the *communication* style of the ExN exactly: "It is the fact that language is put by narcissists to a different use - not to communicate but to obscure, not to share but to abstain, not to learn but to defend and resist, not to teach but to preserve ever less tenable monopolies, to disagree without incurring wrath, to criticize without commitment, to agree without appearing to do so. Thus, an "agreement" with a narcissist is a vague expression of intent at a given moment - rather than the clear listing of long term, iron-cast and mutual commitments."

Sam Vaknin didn't mention self-fulfilling prophecies, however I think that the paragraph above can be summarized as such. Case in point, the Ex N started our relationship with a stake in the ground; that he wasn't sure about how he felt about being with a mother but that he was willing to 'give it a shot' and that we would talk about it in-depth when the time came because 'because open and honest communication is the hallmark of a healthy relationship'. I now know that this was, as Sam says, "a vague expression of intent at a given moment". He used this stake in the ground during the D&D - stating that he had said right from the start that he wasn't sure he wanted to be with a mother. That would have been OK, I suppose, had he actually done what he said he would and talked about it with me; but he didn't. Instead he blindsided me and discarded me. It's like Sam said - the language he put up was to obscure and abstain.

Even that would have been understandable and I may have been able to continue to be 'best friends' per his wishes had he not then done the other thing on Sam's list, which was to criticize without commitment. When we were together, he kept telling me that he didn't feel comfortable clouding my decisions (read my story for the details) about my future, including whether or not to divorce my husband. But literally the minute after the dumping, he started to criticize my husband and spent two months telling me that I should dump him because the marriage wasn't right for me. He was trying to preserve his ever less tenable monopoly over my emotions.

gettinbetter's picture

yes!

I too I have experienced this. As I have mentioned its like they know how its all gonna play out. Is like they are building there own little house of cards and they get to control when they knock it down. Dont know if that actually makes sense to anyone.

Mine would use ambiguous statements like "we need to work on things" I mean really what does that mean?

Would make lots of statements that could be interpreted many ways.

Geez I have a headache. Its been just a glorious Labor Day. Not! But I will survive this. I keep tellling myself Ive done it before I can do it again.

morty's picture

House of Cards Makes Total Sense

SoI - your house of cards analogy is brilliant. That is exactly what it was like. He actually says that he knows how things are going to play out. He claims to have Moments of Clarity (one of his favorite phrases) that occur when he's high. Duh! I called him out and told him that no one has a crystal ball or can predict the future and he, with a completely straight face, said he can.

Anyway, he claims to have had one before he even married his wife - that their relationship would end badly. And he claims that he had one with me and that he needed to end it quickly and with surgical precision to make it as least painful for us as possible so that I could remain his best friend and in his life forever. Oh yeah, and if he hasn't found anyone else by the time my daughter is grown, we can try again. He asked that I not make him feel guilty and that I not make him feel like an asshole.

So here's my poem I wrote about that particular little Mind F.

CRYSTAL

Moment of clarity.
Otherwise known as
an excuse for
manipulation
lies
and emotional blackmail.
You are an asshole.
Is that clear?

gettinbetter's picture

good one morty

I says its easy to have moments of clarity and know how its gonna play out when Its happened 20 times! That how all of thier relationships end BAD! They have to control the ending. The have to make sure they destroy you so that they can look at you at Wow she really loved me. Look how this has destroyed her if I am able to do that to someone Im special.
Like I said Ground Hog Day over and over. I will say I think it frustrates some of them. I do think some of them know that something isnt quite right that they dont have something other people have and they are pissed about it which in turn makes them want to inflict more pain and destruction. I wouldnt say thats the case with all. I think some of them really walk around thinking that there is absolutely nothing wrong with them and that everyone else is crazy! Then they do things to make you act crazy so that they can validate that idea.

Susan32's picture

Pain and destruction

That would explain why the ex-Psych was practically on the verge of going crazy after I met the girlfriend. I was very calm, honestly wished him well with her, saying she was a better match- more mature, independent, her own woman. He went psycho when I congratulated him on being engaged! I was smiling, happy, serene, and he was acting like a foot-stomping toddler.

There are times when I'd love to proudly gloat, saying, "See how successful and HAPPY I am without you??? See?? You're NOT GOD!!! See, you didn't destroy me, you can't, you bumbling idiot!" Besides, I'd probably brag about telling how I've gossiped about him everywhere. He liked being admired or hated, but he could NEVER countenance being MOCKED.

I rarely dream about the ex-P professor. Usually, in my dreams, I'm on my college campus, looking for him... all I see is his back, and he's walking away, then vanishes like a mirage. Then I go off in search of something and totally forget him.

But the other night, in a dream, I confronted him. I gave him a handful of garbage- candy wrappers, gum wrappers, fast food stuff, REALLY nasty and toxic. He looked at me in disbelief, asking, "Why are you giving me this?" In my dream, I said proudly, "Because that's what you gave me. You treated me like garbage." His face fell, he looked devastated, and the more hurt he looked, the bigger I smiled.

helldweller's picture

postponement

Betty, thanks for this post. I always felt that one of the greatest principals of the narc's life was postponement, and that he was incredibly threatened by any attempt at decision-making. The few times he actually gave a speech about us it was when his attempt to postpone everything was being threatened. Whether I was trying to find out when he had a free weekend to book a getaway for us . . . or trying to figure out if the house was going to be finished before my lease was over . . . or trying to make him understand that I was almost infertile and we needed to make a decision about a baby . . . from the simplest thing to the most profound, decision-making paralyzed him, and he responded to my attempts with bizarre, meaningless speeches about nothing.

I sometimes look at his life and realize that everything he's done has postponement as its dynamo. He went from wanting to get married, have children and live together to the most unsettled life one could imagine, with ten thousand strings dangling. He told me once that he could not propose to me, as much as he wanted to, because he couldn't be responsible for making a decision. I had to do it, because then if it didn't work out, it wouldn't be his fault. He has told me that he really doesn't want to adopt his foster child, that he would prefer to be his legal guardian until he's seventeen (before which time the narc will be dead, obviously). When we sat down for the last time two weeks ago and i tried to have THE conversation he's promsed to have for three years--about staying or moving on--he could not sit still, was sweating, and kept clutching his head and almost hyperventilating to the point where I had to cradle him in my arms and say, "ok, that's ok. shhhhh." like he was a child.

I remember the decisions I've made in my life--the big and small ones--and a part of the sorrow of life with the narc was how none of that was there. I realized what big part of love that is: decision-making together, and that most of what hurt so deeply was his insistence on making his few decisions on his own. He decided to be a foster father on his own, he decided who was going to care for him, he decided I wasn't moving in, he decided we weren't getting married. I remember the joy of my ex husband and i when we decided we both wanted to get married, the ecstasy of deciding we wanted to have a baby right away, the joy of choosing our house together, planning our children's schooling together. It's one of the most wonderful experiences in life when your will meshes with another person. The narc was absolutely horrified that this was going to happen, and when it started to happen he completely lost it and did everything in his power to stop it.

loveofmylife's picture

hellsweller

mine reacted the same way....whenever I asked him if we could have a serious discussion about something with OUR relationship (he had no problem of talking serious about everything other than OUR relationship, including my marriage), he couldn't concentrate, he would sweat, he was really uncomfortable and would always ask "is it over yet?"....he was super, super uncomfortable...like a little boy. Which is a stark contrast to how he handles himself in every other situation.

And another thing he told me ....."LOML, you need to put this thought of us out of your mind, because I am very INDEPENDENT". Read - I have a harem of a dozen other women and I plan to have a harem for hte rest of my life! Of course, "independent" sounded good at the time until I figured out he was a narc....and that he had a harem...and then it all made sense.

morty's picture

Helldweller - Holding Him Like a Child

Isn't it funny how they are the ones who discard yet are able to twist it around? So instead of them holding us and telling us they are sorry and that we deserve comfort - we end up rocking and holding them like babies and telling them it will be OK. That's exactly what happened to me too. And when I cried, I was screamed at and told I was a selfish martyr. =(

wind's picture

So True

I know what you mean. I went through the same thing and just an hour ago he sent a copuple of nasty text messages to hurt me. This was when I refused to meet him to return some of his stuff. I said I'll send them through a friend. Who knows what he will do to me if I meet him.

Thanks

terri's picture

language as weapon

My exN would often refer to things I would say to him (always in response to the many hateful, hurtful things he would say to me) as "weapons" that I would use against him. I think this might have been just one more form of projection for him. Before this relationship with him, I had never heard of words being referred to as weapons. I NEVER, NEVER had such horrible word fights with anyone in my life. I had never used words to purposefully hurt anyone in my life.

One thing that I'm absolutely sure of now, in the aftermath of this horrible experience, is that if anyone ever says anything half as mean as he often did, or ever uses the angry, hateful tone once that he so often used with me, I'm running like hell!

This is one of the aspects that other people who haven't experienced a narc just don't get. And I'm very disturbed by the fact that it became something I just accepted in the relationship and eventually engaged in.

This was just one more validation for me. Thanks so much for posting Betty!

lynn61's picture

betty

wow! excellent.

onwithmylife's picture

Good article, Betty

i think the man I went with always had one foot out of the door and i wrote him that once which i am sure angered him because it was the truth, He said years ago, "I can't see us together forever," what the h*** is that suppose to mean so I said niavely said nothing lasts forever.what he was really saying is he doesn't know how to handle intimacy or love another soul since he cannot live himself!!!