The Chessiest things they ever said to you

The Chessiest things they ever said to you
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I would love hear the cheesiest things they ever said to you. I need a good laugh. Come on ladies I know you have some. Really these guys are pretty cheesy if you think about it.

Susan32's picture

"I like listening to your voice"

It used to be that after every summer vacation, I'd call the ex-Psych professor all about my summer doings. Of course, this would show the usual give/give/give (on my part) and take/take/take (on his). He'd get obviously bored when I talked about picking berries in Oregon, seeing Yellowstone (he deemed it overrated)... I'd ask about his, and he'd be laconic. I'd ask why I did ALL the talking. He'd say "I like listening to your voice."

But this is the same guy who'd say "I like watching you cry."

aceonelady's picture

chesiest.....

Mine did ask me if i was a hard a$$....he said i am,you can do anything sexual to me but do not even stick a tweegie in my a$$....i still do not know where that came from....weird sickos

agnesmurphy17's picture

Two Years After We were Married

Almost two years after he married me, he said: "I was never sexually or emotionally connected to you. I thought my love for you would transform you the way [ex-girlfriend's] love transformed me."

I guess that chunk of change I bought into the marriage to buy a house above his financial means made up for that lack of sexual or emotional connection. However, I do wish he had told me that BEFORE he married me that he was neither sexually nor emotionally connected to me.

Susan32's picture

"I'm struggling with my narcissism"

Early on in the "relationship",the ex-Psych professor said that he was a BIG FAN of Tolstoy because Tolstoy was a Narc, and many Tolstoy characters (Prince Andrei, Anna Karenina, Vronsky) are Narcs. He told me that he read the works of Tolstoy as part of his "struggle with narcissism."

He told me that he wanted me to be "free of unhealthy emotional attachments" and should practice detachment. In a sense, he was right, and the "relationship" with him was definitely an UNHEALTHY EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT. But he was no picture of health.

He said he wanted me to be free of the traditional roles of wife&mother, that's there more to life for women than that (yes,he played the feminist card) He said that marriage is terrible because people are imperfect, get sick, die. His favorite Schopenhauer quote was that the sexual act is the ultimate crime. Of course, I asked him how he ended up here. That killed the conversation. He must've played a different number with the OW, an older curator, a professional woman (only 5 years his junior, whereas I was 15)... because her biological clock was ticking, he got married to her and got her pregnant.

I'm glad I didn't marry a guy who doesn't believe in marriage. He also told me that his lack of emotions scared children. Well, at least I was WARNED!

GLAD he's OUT of my life.

A decade... and yes, MUCH HAPPIER. I'd rather be single&HAPPY than wed to a man "struggling with narcissism" and who doesn't believe in marriage.

kiwi10's picture

mine said unconditional love

mine said unconditional love was unhealthy right after we got engaged.

gettinbetter's picture

Whoa that dude sounds like a

Whoa that dude sounds like a serial killer...

Susan32's picture

Another thing...

Early on, the ex-P told me he wanted me to be "free from my emotions." Um, they're mine, MINE, MINE and I'm keeping them!

He said he wanted me to be "free from my emotions" like he was, that somehow it made him a Great Philosopher.

He said that being good to others made me feel good about myself... like there's something WRONG with that????

Susan32's picture

Live to tell

That's why the death of my former classmate was such a trigger. She was closer to him than me. She stayed behind after graduation (she taught choir,music classes) She believed all his lies about me... right when we were on the verge of becoming friends.

Her father died not too long ago. Her obit said she was a "former professor." She was found dead in her sleep. It sounded suspiciously like suicide as murder by the victim's own hands. So many things DID NOT ADD UP.

What's scary is that this guy married and had kids. He HAD TWINS (this is all I know of his personal life--and this is 9 year old news) Yeah,and he has tenure.

There was a recent controversy at my former college about a student (female) who was expelled for anorexia and depression. The LAST thing a sufferer of those things needs is ostracism.

I named this post for that memoir by a woman who survived the Rwandan genocide.

I give thanks every day for being alive. I can wear an "Optimist By Nature" t-shirt and MEAN it, and BELIEVE it... I couldn't do that a decade ago. I can take walks because I enjoy doing so, not because I'm stressed out of my mind. I write because I enjoy it, not because I'm being flattered for it.

Sad to say, this ex-P has been a professor since '96. My empathy for him is gone.

truthseeker's picture

Cheesy

You're my last first date. At the time I thought it was so very sweet, now I realize he's probably said that for years. The cheesiest thing he ever said was whenever we were taking on the phone,"Put your hand in the air can you feel me?"

gettinbetter's picture

now thats what I call

now thats what I call cheesy! The cheesy comments should have been a red flag for me and I think they were. I just chose to ignore them

morty's picture

Not Cheesy - Extremely Painful

The most painful thing the P/N said to me ...

During the D&D (one week after he had told me that I had brought out feelings in him that had consistently surpassed anything he had ever felt before), he said:

"I don't know what to do about this [the end] because you really like making love to me and I really like fucking you."

Classy. And to think, I stuck around and tried to make the "friendship" work.

lisalisa47's picture

that's a mouthful

Maybe "feel like fucking you" was the truest thing they say, cuz they do...

gettinbetter's picture

bless your heart

thats horrible. Years ago mine "I f ing hate you I dont care if i ever see you again." Fast Forward 15 years... I bring that incident up via text. His reply: Look at what you just wrote thats the most hateful think I ever read. Stop it.

WHAT? DUDE YOU SAID THAT TO ME!

lisalisa47's picture

This one STILL slays me...

When we first met, and he thought i was "perfect", and i cracked a joke, he would say "Yeah, that's a knee slapper" which always reminded me of something my grandpa would say...if he weren't already dead.

Susan32's picture

What a load of BS....

The ex-Psych professor's favorite quote from Tolstoy was "To love someone who is dear to you is human love; to love your enemy is divine love." He claimed his "love" for me was the latter... and that somehow I was his "enemy." Uhhh, what???

Sounds like he confused himself with God! God was NOT one of his job titles! Duh!

lisalisa47's picture

ARE YOU SURE? LOL

Are you sure GOD didn't give him a secret promotion that no one knew about but him? LOL

Susan32's picture

His other favorite Tolstoy quotes

Leo Tolstoy was a self-proclaimed vegetarian, pacifist, and Christian. As one biographer puts it "To the public, he was an angel. To his wife, he was the devil."

The ex-P's favorite Tolstoy quote about women was about women being vain, egocentric, etc. He thought I was being vain when I wore dresses and tried to look nice. Oh... he preferred it when I looked like a boy anyhow.

He also liked Tolstoy's quote about women that women are essentially stupid, but the Devil gives them brains so they can do nasty, evil things. The ex-P liked calling me diabolical.

In "Anna Karenina",the drunken adulterous Stepan is described frequently as having an "idiotic grin." The ex-P apparently liked telling LOTS of people (esp. my classmates) that I had an "idiotic grin."

Thank God I turned to GOD during the D&D... or I wouldn't be here!
And the angel who thought he got a promotion, um, didn't he get kicked out big time???

fooled no longer's picture

I was born to make love to you

Yeah, I fell for this one, hook, line and sinker. I even wrote about how amazing it was to hear him say it.
What I should have heard though is Not "I was born to make love to you" but "I WAS BORN TO FUCK YOU OVER" Im learning. Annie

tigger73's picture

crap, I posted mine at the

crap, I posted mine at the end after I read everyones.....go to the end and read it, you may laugh...... or vomit......

gettinbetter's picture

I read it EWWWW

I just threw up in my mouth a little!

monique94550's picture

Let's pray together

"Let's pray together and ask God to come into our relationship."

gettinbetter's picture

How about ....

we pray that God takes you out of my life. Yeah I like that one!

aceonelady's picture

also....

Doesn't matter now if i tell you the truth,you wouldn't believe me anyway.....And he was right about this....after what he did to me...

gettinbetter's picture

yep

I heard that one too!

aceonelady's picture

my ex N told me....iwas not

my ex N told me....iwas not feeling too good about myself when you got here...i am sorry too i didn't feel what i wanted to feel....you came close,thats all.....i am dirt,love is not for me...be my last...

Sherbear's picture

Cheese

His favorite defense of his actions (or lack of) after he broke it off with me...
"You'd be best off to think of me as a big dumb labrador"

and more....
"I absolutely believe that God sent an angel back into my life and you saved me." "If I had my way, you would be my first and last kiss" (we were each other's first kiss 30 years ago, when I was 12, he knew just how to hook me!)

What a loser!!

moonshine's picture

He said

He said ..."If I meet my future soul mate on the road accidentally ...trying to help her with a flat tire......I still have to let her go....you know why.......to keep you as my room mate".

he said "We will grow old together because I am not able to find love"

All these to keep me there as his "room mate".

He wanted me to stay there with him eternally as his room mate and yet live like a couple.

helldweller's picture

"We will grow old together

"We will grow old together because I am not able to find love"
......I still have to let her go....you know why.......to keep you as my room mate". I think this is the most honest he can be.
It's odd. This thread actually made me feel very sad for them. The things they say are almost like statements of children or the mentally disabled. It is like they are trying to express how they feel and you can feel underneath a frustration and desperation about it though it makes no sense. It's very painful to hear the things they say to us, but it's painful to hear them in this other way as well.
Mine just wanted to stay right there, too, just as we had been. "Just love me," he used to say, "Just hold me." Whenever I asked for more, asked to move forward, asked for intimacy, those were the answers. He was desperately afraid of changing anything, of being closer, but he absolutely could not lose the fact that I was just there.

moonshine's picture

would we able..

Would we be able to just give them what they want? Its is possible to be friends at all after we recover somehow? I feel bad for him. I feel he needs me but I also read your other thread where you have stated some one that its easier for them to replace us.

I cant seem to find a balance anywhere.

I see him everyday.I work with him.I am on NC with him after he asked me to leave (when I was visiting) since I asked him questions. He got mad as I asked him questions. He will not trade his freedom of seeing other women but cries every time when I tell him that we dont have a future, The tears doesn't seem to stop at all.

He says, lets not even have sex but just be as my friend...but he would want to go out with other women.

So what did you do finally when he asks these from you...to be a friend?

helldweller's picture

moonshine

Herein lies the problem. I asked him a hundred times to just be straight on what he wants from me. I had no problem hanging out with him, maybe being intimate sometimes, if we were straight about not being exclusive. I also had no problemm being "just friends," as he said the other women were. I used to joke: "If we break up can I be your "friend" like the others are and actually spend some quality time with you?" because he and the child would spend whole days and nights with his mysterious female friends, but not me. He would say, "You just don't get it."
I think they cast us in a role in the beginning and that doesn't change, can't change. I asked him one time, "Why can't I be your friend, too? Like the others?" He said, "I don't need friends."

Susan32's picture

Casting roles

Your post really resonated with me, helldweller. I asked the ex-Psych professor what he wanted from me.... and he was evasive. I remember getting really jealous when a beautiful blonde senior thanked the ex-P for dinner at his apartment. I NEVER got to see his apartment, not once.

For the ex-P, my declaration of love transgressed my role as student. To him, I was ALWAYS to be the student. He couldn't accept the fact I'd graduate and move on. After the D&D, I said something to the effect of "I thought we were 'just friends.'" His response was the cold "I was never your friend." He then said that there was supposed to be this waiting period between me being his student to being his friend.

He never seemed to get it that teachers and their former students might see each other as equals. Of course, when I told him I loved him, I HAD TO PAY. He made it all about roles. When he said he saw himself as a role (a teacher) rather than a human being, I said THAT was his problem. I pointed out that he was a son, a brother--and that riled him. He sputtered, "Think of me just as a teacher!"

That's why I find consolation coming here. Other places, I'd be ridiculed as the "lovelorn student who threw herself at a poor professor"--not someone who was remorselessly played by a psychopath.

The ex-P cast me in a role that doesn't change... because HE is the one incapable of change. Psychs/Narcs can't stand the fact that people change. Normal people tend to do that.

Alibi_10's picture

I had that too!

Exactly the same! I was downgraded from the one to potentially the one to a close buddy. ... then he said he didn't need friends. !! WTF? Not doing well today

Used's picture

moonshine

i couldnt and cant,be freinds with him again. he a while ago said cant you just say hallo, i cant even do that. for me its not the fact that he saw women or had sex[i didnt but doesnt mean he couldnt with someone], it was the pathetic lying, he said to me once, he hadnt been outside his door for 2 weeks[ he thought i was on holiday] i had seen him in that 2 weeks, with women and men and shopping . my point is he lied again,he volunteered info ,that i didnt even ask for, so why say anything, this is what i will never be able to come to terms with, to be freinds with someone, who you dont believe one word that comes out of their mouth is pointless to me, it also ,in my case made me disbelieve what anyone else said, and i dont want to live like that, what is the point. his biggest lie was, i will never lie to you again. he doesnt know the truth. there is nothing he could say now that would change my mind, b/c the damage is done. i have dropped a woman freind cos i said to her ,you have just contridicted your self, you are always doing it, she said no, you misunderstand me, i said no i dont, i understand you very well, you are like him. i havent talked to her since. so the good that came out of beign with n, was instead of me taking things at face value. which i have always done, i dont know, if a thing doesnt feel right its not right. And i am gone.

Amy's picture

There is no "friend" zone

I tried it a million times with mine. They end up getting upset that you have a life outside of them, and then drag you back in.

What do you do? You tell him there was too much damage to be able to be friends. Regardless of the tears and pleading (they are fake tears by the way) you have to walk away and go no contact.

Unless you want to be tortured indefinitely that is.....

lisalisa47's picture

I needed to read this today

Amy Thanks!

I needed to read the no contact thing. I do fine while i'm 200 miles away but as I haven't actually finished cleaning out my stuff completely, i have to go back to the old apartment (it's only been 15 days since this happened) and get a few tihngs at a time. Even though he's in jail at this moment, I always feel depressed when I'm there, and miss him, even though that apartment didn't really hold any memories that were loving between us. Does that make sense?

Used's picture

amy

and so very true, you have it spot on. iremember beign so bad once, hadnt seen him after a big fight, talking to a freind saying how low i felt, and she said, do you think he is low and in this state, she said nope, he will be out there doing what he is always doing. that woke me up i can tell you. and thats when i said to my self,right, get back on the horse and back with your life, and of all the things i was with a group of people having an ok day, and he went by, if looks could kill. i wouldnt be writing on this board today. i would be dead . we got back after it, and he said when he saw me with them, he got in such a temper that he went and took it out on someone. probley his ow. now i know him so well. haha.

moonshine's picture

thats why..

thats why i walked away....but he keeps his face long and acts aloof ...but I have seen him in social setting just fine with out me....having fun....may be its all an act?

Amy's picture

Exactly

It is all an act. Everything he does is an act.

ShaynasMommy's picture

Thank you, Amy

For injecting a dose of reality this morning.

Narcs don't have friends. Just supply. Keep that in mind, and everyone will be ok here.

If they really regret what they do to ppl, and really crave their friendship, then they wouldn't do silly-ass things like smear you to other people, which obviously gets back to the victim somehow. They would be contrite, apologize, and certainly not call you "Evil" on their Facebook page, years after the fact.

This is what mime did to me. Because he was highly pissed that I rejected his "offer of friendship" after the D&D, and moved out of state and away from him for good, without telling him about it. Read this closely: this kind of thing is a grave narcissistic injury to these freaks, as you have removed another security blanket. They know that sooner or later, everyone will move on without them and it scares them shitless, so every time someone leaves of their own accord, they go frantic. That's why I will forever be the bitch who messed him up (fantasy) instead of the great catch, the one that got away (reality) from him.

If they can't treat you with some degree of sincere kindess and respect (pay attemtion to that word, sincere)during your relationship, then they sure as hell won't be a true friend to you after. There is no mistaking this.

Amy's picture

Took me about 5 times before

Took me about 5 times before I realized wasn't real...

Just ALWAYS remember - you are talking to his "agent", not him. His agent is trying to get the "deal". The real guy shows up later!

fooled no longer's picture

NUTSHELL

This is just absolutely on the money. This is the Narc in a NUTSHELL!!! ( excuse the pun)

Just ALWAYS remember - you are talking to his "agent", not him. His agent is trying to get the "deal". The real guy shows up later!

moonshine's picture

agent..

haha....that was funny....but very true....always seeing what the deal would be.

Thanks everyone for the answer.....as everyone says ...he is not a good friend either...so why worry?

morty's picture

So Well Put

This is great ShaynasMommy - exactly right. Mine tried to pull the "let's be best friends forever" bullshit after he dumped me.

He's a terrible boyfriend.
A terrible co-worker.
A terrible employee.
And a terrible friend.

In other words, a terrible person.

So why the hell would I have chosen to remain "friends" with someone who's incapable of being good at anything as a human being?

Used's picture

helldweller

its all so sad, n used to say please dont give up on me, please be my friend for another year, this when i asked him what he wanted for an xmas gift, he said nothing just your friendship for another year, even as he said that, i didnt know he was in a relationship and had been for 2years, while he was sitting having coffee with me saying he didnt want to go back to his depressing flat, he was actually, not going back to it he was living with someone. i couldnt forgive him for this lie, and so many others lies before and after. when i found out i said why didnt you say so, he said cos i knew you would be like this, well so would he , if i was sitting there telling him i was going home to a flat, when in fact i was living with someone. double standards all the time.writing this has bought me out of my depression a bit,b/c i can be true to my self, cos if that had have been me, i would have told him i was with someone. the truth is he thought he would lose me if he told me. he was right, he would have.and eventually did. the reason ive perked up a bit, cos reading this back has made me angry. i thought i had no emotions left.

helldweller's picture

used

YES. He used to say that, too. That he didn't tell me the truth because I would get mad at him. That is the nicest they can be. They can't act properly, can't do the right thing, can't stop cheating. All they can do is try to hide it from us. When I started finding out about the other women from his foster child innocently telling me about things they had done together with them, the narc cut off my contact with the foster child. The idea that he should stop cheating and lying did not occur to him; he just had to stop me from finding out, so he "patched the leak" by removing me from his child's life. It was horrifying. The child called me his Mama and he was no longer allowed to talk to me or be around me. The narc told me that he told the child I no longer had time for him (????????!!!!!!!!!!) and I think the narc actually made himself believe this. This made me so enraged, that he was teaching this child that his "mama" was too busy for him in order to cover up his lies and cheating. But it was the only thing he could do.

ShaynasMommy's picture

Oh, helldweller.

I know this isnt useful to you as I dont have any advice about the foster child, but how AWFUL for that boy. He's got so many cards stacked against him...I am on the verge of tears for him...and you. To have a stable mother figure in your life then have that yanked from him, he has got to be so confused. To think of the innocence of these children who get caught in the web they didn't even have a choice to walk away from. I pray that you, and your daughters, recieve the Grace and healing you so desperately need right now, and I will definitely keep the little boy in my prayers, too. He is going to need nothing short of a miracle to get out of this situation one day with his own soul intact.
So tragic.

helldweller's picture

ShaynasMommy

Just read your post from Tuesday. Thank you so much for your prayers. I am afraid that the child is not going to go to his dad anymore. He visits him every week, but the father is a single man, unemployed, and does not speak any English. the child's mother has disappeared. I think that fairly soon the judge is going to ask the father to sign over his rights to the child. The only hope, I think, is for the narc to die sooner rather than later, so that the child will be cared for by the narc's younger brother, who is also an idiot but at least is quiet and takes care of the child. The narc has not changed his life for the child at all. I discovered last week that the child has at least six different single mothers who babysit him, as well as the woman next door--and the narc's various girlfriends who they both spend time with. Probably ten different women in his life every single week. And then there's me. The narc told the child that he doesn't see me anymore because I'm "too busy for him." This poor, poor little boy.

I told the narc long ago: Any child, especially a foster child, needs a limit on the number of people in his life. Too many is a very bad thing for a child to understand. "OH, please, honey," he said, "He's just getting that much more love." When the child came, I bought him about ten different books on child care, foster parenting, child behavior, etc, and he never opened a single one. He told me to send them back because he didn't need them. The unbelieveable arrogance.

When I think about when a woman is pregnant and the books we read to prepare because we know we are clueless. We are scared of not doing the right thing, not caring for the child properly, not knowing what to do. Not him. The fifty-two year old single man with no children, no nieces or nephews--indeed, no child in his life, ever--had it all under control. Not so much.

Used's picture

helldweller

i dont believe they dont tell us the truth to be NICE, with n , he knew me well enough to know what i would put up with. the irony of all this, when he found out i had a male freind he went absolutly ballistic. so realy who was he protecting by not telling me. himself . i found out from a woman who, funny enough he introduced me too, she and i met up a couple of times ans she said he had told her,about just coming out of a relationship and in hindsight she couldnt wait to tell me what a pratt i have been, why would she tell me i was with him so much, how did she know he hadnt told me, cos she knew the game i didnt, another wake up call. when i told my other freind i didnt get why he told us conflicting stories, she said b/c he wants to look sexual to the woman and impress her , look .as in i do relationships, whereas with me ,at that time i dont think he looked at me in anyway but a freind, so didnt feel he had to impress me.plus this woman he had introduced me too he didnt know to well himself, she was like him.lol. when she met me she ,after she would seek me out, he was realy annoyed, and said i had took one of his freinds. but in truth she had lost interest in him, when another man had come on the scene, sounds familier. so yes he knew this and was trying to impress her back. oh dear what a shame. haha. but he hadnt lost me yet, so didnt have to start impressing me. that came later when i met another male friend. it all makes sense now, how that little senario panned out, incidently i dont have much to do with her now, once i relized she was him in female form.

Used's picture

helldweller

i know where you are coming from, but i also believe they realy think they are men of mystery, or like to play that, in fact they are boring nobodies, who if he had told me any truths, i would maybe of thought so that is the big mystery. wow, lol. he did say to me once, about beign a man of mystery, i said you are as transparent as clear glass, he didnt take that well.i called him boring several times towards the end, i said you are boring and your lies are boring, and you are not even very good at it. reading this board tho, and how you and others have suffered for actually beign in a relationship with them, does make me think of something he said to me once. quote. you dont relize it but you get the best of me, at the time i didnt know what he was talking about. I DO NOW. to be his gf must be terrible, he wanted me to go and meet his ex once,b/c i walked the walk and talked the talk and was everything she wanted to be, his words not mine, to show up were she was i said no chance, i wouldnt do that to her. you are bad enough as a freind, as a bf you must have been hell on earth. he looked gutted. but he didnt reply.

sweetsamm's picture

toothbrush soulmates...

we went out of town for the first time and i got my toothbrush out and he looked at it and said, 'you'll never believe it,and he pulled his out,and it was the same green toothbrush,he said,'if you don't believe in soulmates now,i don't know what will convince you'..lol.....it's such a common toothbrush i'm totally laughing now,but believed things he told me,everything was proof we were soulmates.....I now wonder if he actually looked at my toothbrush and intentionally bought the same one......p.s, i have 2n's,one was the abusive one,the other was the swoop in,knight in shining armour,once he had me,broke it off with no explanation..he was the 'soulmate'guy...LOL