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Lately, there was a thread about the psychopathic lead of the series DEXTER. Dexter is a crime fighter, but a serial killer himself... of those who've escaped justice. Perfectly understandable why he's discussed here.
So, why am I discussing the FOX show "Glee",all about a cool high school where kids sing the latest pop songs? "Glee" seems to be everywhere... but reading the episode synopsis of "Ballads" was VERY triggering for me. For some reason, the show makes me instinctively nauseous.
In "Ballads",the cheerleader Rachel has a crush on Will Schuester, the handsome Spanish teacher who leads the glee club. Mr. "Schue" decides to teach Rachel a lesson after they've been paired to sing The Police's "Don't stand so close to me" (about an affair between a teacher and a student). When Mr. Schuester realizes Rachel has a crush on him, he humiliates her by making her do household chores with his psychopathic, plotting wife (who has affairs and fakes a pregnancy). He also tells her the story of a student who was infatuated with him. Since he didn't reciprocate, the student attempted suicide.. and now she lies in a coma. Mr. Schuester takes Rachel to the hospital to see the comatose student. In the end, Mr. Schuester tells Rachel one day she will find a man who will "REALLY respect her",attributes her crush on him to low self-esteem, and Rachel APOLOGIZES for having a crush on her teacher. Yes... she apologizes to Mr. Schuester for having a crush.
Why I find this episode triggering-
1)The public humiliation- Of all the students, Rachel is the one sent to do Will's household chores, because she's the one with the crush. My ex-P professor would reduce me to tears in front of my friends. Public humiliation was his MO. Flaunting the girlfriend. Mocking me during class. Sending me to the therapist.
2)The rejection- Will's rejection of the student drives her to a suicide attempt. When my ex-P D&D'd me, my friends feared that I'd attempt suicide. Romantic rejection is disappointing. It should NOT drive one to suicide.
3)The man who will "REALLY respect her"-Will tells Rachel one day a man will REALLY respect her. The premise is that teachers really don't respect their students. Isn't that a terrible lesson? My ex-P said after the D&D that he didn't respect students as human beings.
4)Attributing the crush to low self-esteem- Okay, so Will thinks he knows the motives of Rachel AND the comatose student. Not only is he handsome, but apparently he is the King of Everything. My ex-P claimed that my feelings of love for him came from low self-esteem. I assume that the fictional Will (and my real ex-P) actually liked the admiration.
5)Apologizing for the crush- Rachel APOLOGIZES to her teacher for being infatuated with him. How DARE she be human! How DARE she! This was wrenching to read. When I declared my love to my ex-P, he immediately went into D&D mode, claiming I was "offending" and "embarrassing" him, so there I was, in tears, apologizing to him. He acted as if my feelings of love for him was some terrible violation. I've been romantically rejected before, but only ONCE in my life have I apologized for being in love.
That's why I don't watch Glee. I'm not gleeful.
from what I read on
July 31, 2010 - 9:22pm — almostlydiafrom what I read on 'planetjan' (an excellent site by the way) according to an article in the LA Times, 'MadMen' is also about a classical narcissist. I've been watching my son's X Box all summer so I rarely watch regular TV but I found this article extremely interesting.
Who is Don Draper?
July 31, 2010 - 9:29pm — Susan32John Hamm, the actor who stars as the narcissistic DD (how fitting) recently said in an interview that what's terrible nowadays is that "men treat women like absolute garbage, and they're not polite about it." That hit close to him. My ex-P treated me like garbage... but he feigned the politeness. Wow.
"Mad Men" is good for a discussion of NPD, because Don Draper definitely is one. Will Schuester's desire for control makes him more... psychopathic. What's more callous than taking Rachel to the bedside of the comatose nerdy girl, and saying it's the girl's fault? Some people at The Onion AV Club said, "It's as if Mr. Schuester never had a student fall in love with him before" and others bluntly saying that Mr. Schue handled it terribly.
I'd probably watch "Mad Men" over "Glee" because I'd rather watch a Narc ad exec than a Psych teacher. The latter is too triggering. Reading the episode SYNOPSIS was enough to set off emotional triggers. So much for me being a "Gleek."
I'm a fan of both shows!
August 1, 2010 - 3:07am — KellyGrrrr . . . I didn't know about that episode of glee! I started watching mid-season.
How horrible!
Don Draper is such a narc, but nearly every character on that show is narcissistic.
At least there's distance...
August 1, 2010 - 6:37pm — Susan32When it comes to "Mad Men." It's set in the swank early '60s with ad execs.
"Glee" hit too close to home. Way too close.
It was in the first season
August 1, 2010 - 8:36am — Susan32"Ballad" was the 10th episode in the first season. Mr. Schuester treats BOTH smitten girls (the comatose student and Rachel) with such callousness... and the excuse? He's a teacher. He's made to look like the victim. My ex-P acted the same way. He did the whole "she's amorously pursuing me... waaah" routine. Right down to repeatedly moving where one of his classes was held to "escape" me. As one of my friends said, "He WANTED you to pursue him. Isn't it odd that a man would WANT to pursue you, instead of the other way around?"
That seems a common factor. Ns/Ps prefer the women to do the pursuing... and then there's the whole push/pull.
I know I'm different on these board because my ex-Psych was my TEACHER, instead of a lover, friend, or spouse. I'd defend his abusive actions on account of him being a teacher... and my friends did some tough love and told me to cut it out. His actions were unjustifiable. As my friend on the East Coast said, a teacher is NOT supposed to make you feel demoralized, emotionally broken, devastated, and depressed.
What's shocking is how that "Glee" episode duplicates what happened in real life for me. Mr. Schuester sounds eerily like my Psychopathic professor... he's too sadistic to be merely narcissistic. Mr. Schue thinks he's "teaching Rachel a lesson." And during the D&D, my ex-P would dart up to me, saying, "Did you learn your lesson?"