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I have thought many times that I wish my XN was not around anymore; maybe not breathing in other words, but to hear him say that to me is more than just walking away and licking my wounds, it's like trying to hold the gaping wound in my heart from everything falling out (if that makes any sense).
He called me at work and, long story short, was complaining about what a rotten human being I was. I should have hung up but I was intrigued by his brutal words towards me. The conversation probably lasted 15 minutes but the words and tone were more hostile than I have ever witnessed from him.
****Cause of his anger*** I had sent an email earlier letting him know I still have all of the texts that said I had to 'give him a blow job to get my child support'. There is probably 20 saved and all during the new wife's courtship and right after they got married. He has called me several times since they got married to see if I would have have sex with him; probably 4 times in thier 6 month marriage. I sent this email to get him to back off with all the BS court case. Well this backfired on me.
Anyhow, he said he is final at peace now with new wife and has figured out all the fighting and ups and down were "totally [my] fault". He said, "I won't hit her bc I actually found the one I'm happy with". He was saying, "you really have an anger problem and everyone thinks your crazy. You really should get help because you are a bitter, old woman." (I'm 36 but pass for 26) He goes on to say, "I wish your heart condition would come into play and you would not be around anymore". "I just wish you were gone and life would be better for everyone and no one would have to deal with you again."
He has done some rotten shit but to say these things just knocked me to my knees. With all the violence and multiple cheating (30 women that he will admit) done to the mother of his child, and then to try to buy my son with all the toys and trips, is just too much to try to take on at once. My son unfortunately wants to go live with his dad and SM which rips my heart in two.
I'm still trying to process all of this and I'm still stunned and this happened 4 days ago. I still think, 'why?'
Of the 10 years together, I have never cheated or lied to him. The new wife is uber rich, of which I'm not and they like to rub, no rake, my face in it at every chance.
As much as I try to stay in NC there seems to always be an unfortunate reason we have speak, even briefly disturbs me for hours. It's now been 1.5 years since we have ended and I still don't feel like I'm any closer to healing and that saddens me :(
I have already won full
May 17, 2010 - 1:42am — JordansMomI have already won full custody after they both tried to take me back to court for being an "incompetent, detrimental parent" and the judge smacked he and his attorney down for that. So, keeping all the nasty stuff he does will really not help me to get him to stop and leave me alone.
I'm reading all the responses and you all have almost identical situations. God, I wish my son was from a different man! I keep thinking his attacks will stop but so far they are still coming; one after another.
I texted his wife and told her he is calling me at work and she put a kabash on that very fast! She's so insecure about me for some reason.....and it totally got her furious he was calling me when she was not around.
He's a stupid fireman and she just thinks he's all that! I hate fireman!
JordansMom
May 17, 2010 - 7:22am — Barbara (not verified)keeping all the nasty stuff he does will really not help me to get him to stop and leave me alone
Not true - you could get SUPERVISED visitation and a RESTRAINING ORDER if he keeps harassing you - as long as you keep the texts and proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
"I won't hit her bc I've
May 16, 2010 - 7:48pm — better off"I won't hit her bc I've found the one I'm happy with." Nice. Because of course real men should hit women when they're not happy. Thing is, no matter how rich she is, sooner or later (sooner I'd guess) she will do SOMETHING that won't make his N ass happy, and he WILL hit her. Men who hit women...hit women.
Meanwhile...NO CONTACT. EVER.
Reply to Jordansmom
May 16, 2010 - 7:47pm — missyjadeFirst of all, you are not a bitter and mean person; if you were, this would not hurt so much. He is projecting his characteristics on you. Think about it. Only a bitter person would wish the mother of his child dead;knowing how much it would devastate his son. Regarding him not hitting the wife because she is the one right now who makes him so happy.... Bullsh*t!!! He would knock the piss out of her (if he hasn't already)just like he did you. Take it from someone who was married to an abusive man years ago. He did the same thing to the second wife that he did to me. Until the point, she refused to go to his funeral when he died in a car accident. Your son needs to see you not continue to be this man's victim. Yes, daddy is cool now but one day his son will clearly see the truth; and when he does, he is going to need his real mom and not the victim his dad is trying to create. Be blessed.
wishing us dead.........
May 16, 2010 - 7:24pm — narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)he did try to murder me at least twice....and after he was gone he called me one night drunk and on drugs....and told me if he could have just made me 'disappear' that his life would have been perfect...he murdered one of my dogs and gloated about it.....
i forced him to pay me some dog support for a short time...and in a bank parking lot one winter day...when i was picking up the money from him to go buy a kerosene heater because this house has no heat source...he told me he wished the dogs and cats and i would all burn to death.....
i knew he was a piece of shit....and i hated his guts....
but to hear such cruel horrible things like that come out of his mouth made me want to throw up....then they made me want HIM dead....so i tried to run him over in the parking lot....
i was called bitter and angry and crazy for years..while his attacks on me were relentless and furious...he never let up...not for one minute...for 17 years....
but...he's the one who is dead....not me.......
there is no depth to which they won't sink....none.....
there is nothing they won't say.....
“I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness. The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget." - Chaim Herzog
Wishful thinking...
May 16, 2010 - 6:03pm — NoNarcingZoneYes JM - it (your feelings @ that moment) make plenty of sense. The N - on the other hand - does not. NEVER will. Their hatred runs deep within THEM. In the infamous words of Miss Barbara: THEY ARE NOT HUMAN! This is why their words stun us so. They envy us. My N envied my youthful appearance (I'm 3 yrs older than him, but look 10-12 yrs YOUNGER - says everybody! Ha!) I told him that trying to keep track of all his lies has aged him terribly. That 'bitter, old woman' comment your N made? Pffft! You should've told him that one of his personalities has you confused w/the woman who birthed his psychotic ass! Pissed for having to raise satan's spawn by herself.
One morning after 2 days of complete silence from my N (unbeknownst to me, I'd 'gawked' @ other soldiers while talking to him. Ha! I probably was trying to decipher what a SANE soldier looked like @ that point!), I approached him - not to apologize (Pffft! For what?) - but to ask how much longer we were going to continue this game. He looked directly into my eyes & calmly said: "I want you dead just as much as I want to do it with these hands." WTF??? I stepped right in his face (morning breath & all)& laughingly told him: "Aaawww but you're too much of a b*tch to do it. Ahora sueño con un ojo abierto, maricon! (Eng: Sleep w/one open now, fag!)" Oh that's right...they don't sleep. Ha! Off to the barracks he went. Effin' dwarf!
No contact JM. Use the texts & emails as reminders when/if he tries sweet talking you. Whenever my N pulled that sh*t, I'd bombard him w/all of his BS texts/emails he'd sent me (Oh XXXXX (my name) I luv u so much - XXXXX u make me want to be a better man...etc) EXCEPT...I'd replace my name in the texts/emails w/ 'John' - the openly gay guy from the gym on post - who N told me was constantly trying to pick him up! N would then back off for a while.
When your N calls @ work - DO NOT ENGAGE IN THE PSYCHOBABBLE. Your response to him should be: "Put it in an email. Thanks." Click! They start pushing buttons the moment you allow them 1 minute of your time.
Oh and be assured...he will NEVER be at or know peace. He won't ever REST in peace. Nor will he EVER be able to give a woman (...or man) a good 'PIECE'! LMAO
Remain strong JM! Refuse to be mentally or emotionally defeated.
saving text messages
May 16, 2010 - 8:29pm — Barbara (not verified)you can simply copy into your journal (you ARE keeping a daily, accurate journal of his B.S. Aren't you?????)
the texts
the date received
time received
number sent from
and present them to your lawyer - if he disputes it HE'D have to pay for your provider and his to pull the texts.
keep meticulous records
journal
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Document it
May 16, 2010 - 5:50pm — gullablegull (not verified)You need a legal document stating what these texts have said. Maybe you can order them from your provider?
You DEFINITELY need to start gathering evidences if you haven't already!
He's mad, because HE'S BUSTED!
I find they say the most ludicrous evil things when you call thier bluff!
You KNOW none of what he said is true. If he's talking, he's lying. If you were such an awful person, why is he still trying so hard to be with you again?
Sounds to me, like he likes the new wifes money, but likes something you have more?
Just remember, none of it is about feelings though.
I swear, they are all the same!
May 16, 2010 - 4:23pm — TexN (not verified)My exN would always call me & say the absolute ugliest thing he can think of too. He knew i was going to see a cardiologist cos i was having chest pains. During one of his rages, he texted me & said, "So how's that old heart doing?" I know he's wishing I'd die. He told me he was so happy with his new gf, that she had more class than i could ever have. He said She hated drama & he was finally drama free! Pleeze, he was the one that was the freakin frama queen... I hope your son has a change of heart. I think if he goes for the summer, he'll see the reality of what its like to live with his Dad. His dad is only trying to buy him to piss you off. Once he gets him, he isn't going to want anything to do with him. He'll discard him like he did you...I despise these creeps!
Wow TexN! Your nasty one
May 16, 2010 - 5:32pm — JordansMomWow TexN! Your nasty one sounds just like mine! Someday, I hope my son sees what his dad really is but for now he's enjoying his dad's "new family". Barf!!
JordansMom
May 16, 2010 - 2:44pm — Barbara (not verified)get the courts after him for child support
NO MORE CONTACT!
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Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals
Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller