The Narcissist after No Contact

The Narcissist after No Contact
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Okay, can you please help me with my fractured thoughts? I would really enjoy reading your opinions on what it is you think the narcissist thinks after we have gone No Contact.
Does the narcissist just simply forget us?
Or does he hate us with his whole being?
Does he fear us (for example, in case we expose him, or even just because we know what he is – a predator)?
Does he feel sorry (albeit self-pity) that he’s lost such a fabulous source of supply?
Does he ever think about us?
If so, in which circumstances do you think this is likely, besides the obvious one where he has totally run dry of supply sources.
Does he ever ‘dip’ and look for info?
Is he afraid to consider that we really are strong enough to remain no contact?
Does the fact that we go no contact speak volumes to him?
And and and…???
I’ve read so many conflicting thoughts that I can’t easily draw a conclusion. Throw a couple more at me to mull over, please…!!!
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On the boulevard of broken dreams
On the esplanade of pain
On the verge of screams
On the highway of blame
On the street of hurt
On the path of guilt
On the road of dirt
On this map Narc Land was built…

cynthia's picture

Does the narcissist just

Does the narcissist just simply forget us?

Sure they can forget us, they forget us when they are working a new victim, and then we will pop up in their minds when they want more supply from us to give them power and control

Or does he hate us with his whole being?
They dont love or hate, they rage when they lose control of their victims, their hate isnt directed at us but more frustration on their part how to get us back in their game

Does he fear us (for example, in case we expose him, or even just because we know what he is – a predator)?

Read what Psyco boy did when Barbara exposed him.

Does he feel sorry (albeit self-pity) that he’s lost such a fabulous source of supply?

They always have other sources of supply to feed their addiction. If you were good supply to him he wont forget that he will try to tap into it to see if he can get more

Does he ever think about us?

Not like we think about them, they can erase us from their minds for weeks, months because they never had ANY emotional attachment to us. He might think of us when he needs more supply our name might pop into their heads, like, hey wonder what she is doing, I should call her maybe she can give me a little injection of what I am running low on

Its sick isnt it? As our lives our shattered they could care less, they will just come back to shatter our lives a little more

masquerades's picture

Up & down

Yes, I have been up & down like a see-saw! Visiting this board has made me really explore my feelings… and ask questions. I WAS UPSET the last time I visited the board, and I put this down to a combination of things:
- Reading the same reply in several posts i.e. the N never did feel anything for me. That hurts enormously. I mean even if one is in a marriage and it ends in a divorce, even an acrimonious divorce, it would be comforting – bloody hell, try ‘normal’ – to think that the marriage was founded on a basis of mutual love.
- Reading Cynthia’s post on the gift he presents did affect me deeply. I wept, for the story could so easily have been written by my mom. I cried for the element of sadness in my mom’s life. I probably also shed a few tears recognising that that could have been me ten years down the line, had I not got out of the relationship.
- Time of the month – I do tend to become more emotional…
I have been bottling up a lot, I realise now. It was time to have a good cry and release the emotions I’ve been harbouring inside. I do feel better for it. I bought the book, ‘How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before You Get Involved,’ by Sandra M. Brown, on Friday afternoon and started reading that. It is an amazing book. Thank you, Sandra Brown. It’s horrifying to admit that my dating history is peppered with dangerous men. And I am a bit ashamed about being so confident here on this board with regard to the ability to recognise a dangerous man in the future. Anyway… my sister and I visited my mom this weekend and it was therapy of a sort. For the first time in my life I am being honest with my mother about my feelings and what drove me to make some of my decisions. I’ve always tried to maintain a ‘strong’ front and make out that everything is okay. This weekend I told my mom how heart-broken I was. I spoke openly. There was a lot of crying going on. My mom admitted that she had been remiss in recognising that the trauma to my emotional health has been huge and suggested that I consider therapy. My family – who from the beginning didn’t understand what I ‘saw’ in the N – thought it was sufficient to say. “He’s a fucking asshole. Good riddance. Get over him.”
This healing is a journey. I have got a long way to go but I think there’s progress. It has sunk in that he felt nothing for me and it was all just manipulation. And really letting that sink in is, I think, the start of the release of all the hurt. I am so glad that I can read and learn and share. Thanks everyone for the support. This last week has been very humbling.

Barbara's picture

masquerades

Reading the same reply in several posts i.e. the N never did feel anything for me. That hurts enormously

of course it hurts - these creeps get off on hurting us. Hearing that anyone or anything you invested emotional time & energy in felt ZERO for you is horrifying. But it's not an indictment of you - it's an indictment of THEM.

as far as 'get over it' - as Sandra Brown, MA pointed out in the first version of WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS these predators do things to our brain chemistry and hormones that make the 'getting over it' very individual... some people? a few weeks... others... months... others - YEARS.

it's cruel to hold anyone to a time table and then say they are "staying stuck" - very cruel. There are ways to lesson the pain but working thru it is a very individual process.

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foolmeonce's picture

After NC

My exN told me all the time how he wished he could put me in his back pocket so he could pull me out anytime he wanted to. He told me that he wished I would never move on and how he wanted me to always be ready willing and able to resume the game with him. If that's not calling it like it is, I don't know what is.

aceonelady's picture

hanging on his hip...

Mine always compared me to his cell phone,carrying me all day long....I have you with me hanging on my hip baby,all day long ,and i wish i could have my cell on allnight on hands free in bed so we could be slipping together,me in Oklahoma and you in Holland....

IamNOTcrazyORbipolar's picture

"pocket pal"

omg. My last boyfrind 5 years ago said that... I didnt know he was married at the time...

"I wish I could carry you in my pocket...like a pocketpal... and take you out when ever I wanted to see you. barf.

foolmeonce's picture

Pocket Pal

It is absolutely mind blowing how much they say the same things. I suppose the good thing about that is for all the people who are just learning the "love of their life" is an N. They are able to read these posts and see their N in them. There is no denying their pathology when others have experienced the same thing verbatim.

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

Static Reasoning...

wow..that explains a LOT...when i finally got the psycho out of the house...he attempted to recycle some woman he had once casually dated, but that he hadn't even spoken to in over 30 YEARS....he just assumed she'd be sitting there waiting for her sailor to return from the sea!!!....boy was he surprised......

MsVulcan500's picture

Wow!

30 years!! That is too funny. He probably had to tell her his last name and some recollection of something they did so she could dredge him up in her memory.

The static reasoning really does make sense. If you're not much when you're with him, how can you be anything at all without him? You're just on hold until he needs you again.

I really love all the shared knowledge here. You know what they say, knowledge is power, and we are all getting so powerful!!

cynthia's picture

same here

Not uncommon, mine 25 years later, and still interested in me as prey. Unreal isnt it? I didnt know him though at all 25 years ago like I got to know him 2nd time around, WOW I honestly didnt have ANY idea he was disturbed in ANY WAY, just thought he was a player of course he was a young psychopath then he has had 25 years to perfect his act and boy did he perfect it

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

30 years..

i'm sure to him it was like 30 minutes...

Barbara's picture

static reasoning

Psycho-Boy looked me up after 27 years...

he was downright angry (tried to hide it, didn't do a good job) that i'd gained 80lbs, was disabled, on meds, had children... etc. in the end he was REALLY angry I lived near his job. Too close for comfort.

my first narc, Mike - is another one who was angry I'd changed when we ran into each other after 15 years. I asked him for some accountability for what he'd done to me & my life... after that I became a "crazed stalker" - LOL

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Kelly's picture

Static Reasoning

I've been taking a psychology class in child development and I just learned about static reasoning. It's an egocentric way of thinking discovered by Piaget where children between ages 2-6 believe that the world remains just as they had left it.

With NC, the narcissist thinks of you like a toy on a shelf (I think I read that on this site somewhere) or like a TIVO recording. You are unchanged, you don't exist on your own.

I think NC only affects them if they want something from you at that moment and you are not reacting. Then, they might just find amusement in the challenge of trying to induce some kind of reaction, or they may become frustrated at the moment, but eventually move on.

They are emotionally underdeveloped predators who do not value intimacy and could never comprehend the complexity of the emotional pain we go through. They don't feel connected to people. They only see people as objects to be used at the moment. Nothing else.

Writing this stuff by the way, is so healing for me. Writing it and reading the boards keeps this fresh so I don't go back to thinking about how wonderful it all was before his mask came off. It's really taking time, but I get it and I'm so proud of myself and of all the ladies here for having the chutzpah to get out of that mess and move forward.

I'm addicted to the show Mad Men btw. Don Draper is a perfect example I think, of a narcissist (I think it's a misconception to think of him as a sociopath.) He's got a great line in Season 2 - -

"Get out of here and move forward. This never happened. It will shock you how much it never happened."

Unfortunately for us normals, we can't just erase the past from our heads. It does affect us. It happened and we are shocked by those who can so easily move forward and detach from us.

What we can do though is "get out of here and move forward." I hope that when I reflect on all this, what I will be shocked by is the strength I had to break the cycle and truly move forward, empowered and unstoppable.

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Oh another great Draper line: -(just some context, Peggy just tells Don that sex sells)

"You are the product. You feeling something. That's what sells. Not them. Not sex. They can't do what we do and they hate us for it."

My interpretation, emotion as a commodity to the narc. You have to be able to detach yourself from that emotion in order to recognize it's manipulative potential though and well, not everyone can do that. . .

BlueMoon's picture

yes, Don Draper

I love this show- the writing is fantastic...and I get chills when Draper (who is not really even the real Don Draper) just walks through any situation, or over any person, and feels nothing...

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

gullablegull....

the psychonarc said that too!!...he admitted to faking happiness...he let that slip in a rage once...he was raging at me about how he never loved me...trying to twist the knife...and he let it slip...'i've never was happy..with you or anyone else..i've alaways pretended to be..just to get along'....of course he said this in an ACCUSING tone..but yeah...he let some truth leak out..
i already knew the miserable bastard had never had a moment of real happiness...and he let it slip that i was right...

Nothanx's picture

Let it slip out

This hit home for me because my narc once told me (in a moment of drunken one upping me...you know like, well if you think that hurts me how bout I say this to you) that I was no more special than any of the others. His exact words (except I changed the names) was: "Your all the same to me, just a different face. You, Alicia, Evelyn, Robin...you're all just interchangeable. But Stephanie...she is really special because we are just friends and good friends are hard to come by". Of course I left in a rage, but he was all apologies the next day and he didn't mean it. It was the booze.

lostmysoul's picture

can relate

i just can't understand the mind of this person. i was the love of his life and when i asked him to leave because i discover at least 4 other women in his life (even tho he was living with me) he scattered like a cochroach. I still miss the life he lead ne to believe and wonder if i can ever move on

Rinalda's picture

Mind-shift, grief, and lifelong betrayal

lostmysoul--I'm sorry to hear how much you are hurting. I know what you mean--the whole thing is so incredibly hard to understand. Why and how could he? I've felt the same hopelessness lately that you have. But this board has helped me immensely to cope with the grief and, *as a fundamental part of that healing,* to see how rotten and worthless this guy was. That is a crucial realization. You have to get there.

The only way I seem to progress is to do the brain-switch: there is nothing wrong with ME and I am NOT missing out on anything this way except a lot of insecurity, anxiety, and deception. When I remember how he made me feel all along, not just when the other woman came onto the scene, it helps to lessen the agony of our break-up.

I have been so low lately that things felt hopeless and desperate. But I think that I am a smidgeon better this week (or it's a little lull anyway). You, too, will slowly start to heal but it takes time and, as I'm learning, the crucial mind-shift. Part of that is no contact with the ex. Leave him to rot in his own self-centred little world. Show him that you don't give a damn what he did--and in fact, you are so much better off. Deep down I think he knows this. Just make it obvious that you know, too.

And you truly ARE better off without someone like this! God, do you want to be part of this a-hole's harem? Who does he think he is? I know, I know....the pain of realizing this. It has brought me to depths of anguish I'm not sure I've reached before. But the pain will only last so long, I'm hopeful, whereas this piece of garbage will spend his life lying, cheating, and deceiving, while you find a worthwhile partner who actually respects you.

IamNOTcrazyORbipolar's picture

spot on.

"God, do you want to be part of this a-hole's harem? Who does he think he is? I know, I know....the pain of realizing this. It has brought me to depths of anguish I'm not sure I've reached before. But the pain will only last so long, I'm hopeful, whereas this piece of garbage will spend his life lying, cheating, and deceiving, while you find a worthwhile partner who actually respects you."

Rinalda- thank u for your post.

Part of moving on for me is to change my USERNAME here to something more positive!..... I need to let go of how he made me think of myself....

like I was "crazy and bipolar..... " I am not so crazy anymore trying to understand what the hell is going on... It's only been a week since Iearned about NPD.... I am just shaking my head.

Anguish--- you used the word anguished... oh... the depths of anguish and not knowing NPD even existed.

I can relate. What should my new username be??

Rinalda's picture

Suffering in mind and body; changing your name

IamNOTcrazyORbipolar--Just a suggestion, but for a new username, how about "Enlightened"? You are

1) not fooled any longer about his tricks (having understood that HE has the problem). You are therefore enlightened on the matter.

2) "lighter" after shedding the terrible burden of your narcissist.

Unfortunately there is still the anguish to go through. I've lain awake at night, I've cried myself to sleep, I've woken up and my first thought is, "Oh God, another day to face the fact that this happened to me" and I've felt sick to my stomach over his other woman--my body and mind have really suffered.

But I don't want to give him this much of myself. Self-talk to STOP hurting so much, especially when he most likely experiences nothing like this on his end, suffers only to maintain his ego-boosting supply.

In fact, off he goes, "doing" his OW (and she is so "unenlightened" or is ignoring the signs or likes the drama). She is a whole other story (I've posted about this under the "Other Woman" topic on this board).

The board will hopefully help you to cope with this very painful situation.

Barbara's picture

lostmysoul - start reading!

pathological mind
NOT a person

start reading ALL the posts on MY BLOG (link at left)

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The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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narcnarcwhosthere's picture

wallaby...

the psycho hates humor...esepcially when it's aimed at him....i used to be very very funny...but not such much anymore....but i do enjoy slamming him...anywhere i can in any way i can...Barbara is a master at describing them in unflattering ways...but i give it my best shot.

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

no contact......

some Narcs LOVE the idea of no contact...i didn't have to go no contact...the psychonarc went no contact...because i am living proof of what he really is....hard to start a completely new persona and life as a WIDOWER..when the departed might come waltzing in the door at any moment and blow your con out of the water...which is EXACTLY what happened in his case.......

and yes...once they are without supply...if they think they can get ANYTHING at all from a former victim...they will have no problem recycling and making contact..

angela0714's picture

Amazingly they don't give it a 2nd thought

N's do not give much thought at all to the idea of "no contact." yes, it's hard to believe. Wouldn't any of us be hurt if someone were to ignore us and perhaps go as far as blocking our phones and e-mails from them. N's move on to a new source of supply and don't look back. They don't have the capability to feel.

I honestly believe their thoughts may turn to us, when the new source has lost it's appeal or can't provide financial benefit or ego stroking. Sometimes, their smart enough to leave the N. Then and only then, may they resurface.

For those of us who feel and have a heart, it's mind-boggling to imagine the lack of regret or urge to re-connect. But, sadly they are immune to humanness.

We have to accept this...no matter how hard. We have to stop blaming ourselves. We are worthy and kind. Don't we deserve someone who displays these same traits????

Hang in there.
Angela

gullablegull's picture

If it were our faults, then

If it were our faults, then how would you explain they same do the same thing to children?
I've finally realized, after this site and after digging until I found out truths, that no, it's not my fault.
He does not love anyone, only himself. And truth be known, he doesn't even like himself...just finds it's important to appear to, and to keep saying how honorable he is, (when he knows he's a slithering snake)..Mine went to extremes to do kind things for people..to appear to be caring and generous. That's one reason I remained fooled...why would he be so kind and generous to everyone but me? It's an act....all a polished act to deflect reality, and thwart people from seeing who and what he really is. But, the mask slips....it always does sooner or later. It probably did many times sooner for me, but I didn't want to see.

Rinalda's picture

Polished act

Well put. The performance element is mind-boggling. Do they actually think that we don't see through it (I mean afterward, once the cover is blown)? My ex is doing exactly what you wrote here, gullablegull--going out of his way to show me how helpful, compassionate, honourable, and "genuine" he is. It's sad, really, from a distance.

They perfom and posture perhaps in the effort compensate for (and hide, as you say) the unbelievable selfishness and cool, calculating treachery. It's merely an image of "goodness." I've never seen anything like it. And other people (the OW, in my case) are apparently still fooled....

But I'm still at the grieving stage, so his tricks mainly hurt me rather than fueling my anger (a little bit is starting in me--moments of disgust at the falsity of his pretences and his attempts to fool me still).

wallaby's picture

Just like Jesus but BETTER

Mine TALKED a lot about all his good deeds and how honorable he was. But it was all for show.

If he ever did anything for anyone he was a)sure EVERYONE on the planet knew about it and b)was sure he could get something for himself out of it - even if just bragging rights. If I needed the littlest bit of help from him well don't hold your breath as unless it spotlighted him in some clear way he was not going out of his way. Too busy. Too important.

Once his wife (very religious and involved in helping the needy) gave someone 5K from "their" money to stay i their mobile home. He immediately had to call and tell me what a glorious thing HE had done. About a month later while drinking and "opening" up about how tough his life was - he complained about his wife giving every red cent he makes to "some charity case" -he was FURIOUS over it. Think he'd forgotten the whole earlier " I'm just like Jesus only better" conversation. Ahhh the slipping mask...

MsVulcan500's picture

Like Jesus only Better!

I love this!! Mine thought he was like Jesus only better too. But he never said that, he always said he was a god. But if he heard that line, he would definitely use it!! He volunteered (maybe still does) at a food bank just so he could post on FB how he was helping the community and those less fortunate. Oh puleeze. He didn't do it for the good of the community, he did it for the good of his image.

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

conflicted........

you seem very conflicted...very...
i suggest you seek some counseling...right away...
you seem to have gone from the extreme of considering
your victimization as a 'gift' and being zen like in your no contact to now dwelling on what a Narc thinks very quickly...
do you have access to a mental health professional?

i'm worried about how quickly you're bouncing back and forth...trying to get into the mind of a Narc is like trying to break into Fort Knox...impossible......

masquerades's picture

I know

...everything I read is true. They don’t feel. We are just objects to them. Etc. Etc. But it is so hard for my brain to actually accept this as the truth. It’s not sinking in, even though I want it to. What do I do?
I can remember having a sort of breakdown in front of my NH, pleading, “But what do you feel?“ (I was referring to the end of our marriage.) He said, “Well, I’m a bit relieved.“
I’m just a bit of a mess right now. I read Cynthia’s message on the Gift he Presents post and I can’t stop crying. I haven’t cried for months. An hour ago I was walking out of gym with a sparkle in my eye – so happy it’s Friday – and now I’ve dissolved in a puddle of tears.

quietude's picture

masquerades

hey, just wanted to offer up some (((((HUGS)))))). It's painful, and there's no way to get around the pain...you have to go through it, but I promise once you give yourself permission to feel...including acknowledging the sadness, grieving the 'loss', getting dowright pissed at being violated so terribly...things start clicking and healing really begins.

I'm so sorry you're a mess ~ been there! ..But I think this cleansing might be long overdo for you. Hope you feel better soon.

dysenchanted's picture

Masquerades

wrote: "I can remember having a sort of breakdown in front of my NH, pleading, “But what do you feel?“ (I was referring to the end of our marriage.) He said, “Well, I’m a bit relieved."

In the same situation mine said " Well, it's kind of awkward." It took years for me to really internalize and KNOW the truth that they just do not feel as we do. Let the tears come and help you heal. (((((hugs))))).

Barbara's picture

masquerades

get to a trauma counselor or even try EMDR. If you are going to get better at all it needs to sink in... you need to go through the anger phase... right now your posts tell me you're somewhat manic - which is understandable... remember - just a couple days ago you saw all this pain, suffering and Cognitive Dissonance as a "gift."

if you refuse to accept it after you've been told and intellectually know - after a while - that's willful denial and magical thinking.

crying is cleansing... there's a lot of pain on this board - reality is the cure... they are NOT human, they aren't really even THERE...

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Barbara's picture

answers

Does the narcissist just simply forget us? whats to forget - do you forget toilet paper or a chair

Or does he hate us with his whole being?
He feels NOTHING. N O T H I N G

Does he fear us (for example, in case we expose him, or even just because we know what he is – a predator)?
Sometimes but mostly he just thinks about how to get the next sucker going

Does he feel sorry (albeit self-pity) that he’s lost such a fabulous source of supply?
You're kidding right? They can't feel - and they don't care

Does he ever think about us?
NOPE. ONLY if he thinks he can bleed you for something. Otherwise - NOPE!

If so, in which circumstances do you think this is likely, besides the obvious one where he has totally run dry of supply sources.
Does he ever ‘dip’ and look for info?

Only to use to protect himself or try to reel you back in for more supply

Is he afraid to consider that we really are strong enough to remain no contact?
He could care less - we are NOT people to them- we are OBJECTS

Does the fact that we go no contact speak volumes to him?
Nope. Nothing. NADA.

And and and…???
AND.... stay away from these NON HUMAN, SOUL SUCKING pieces of utter moose dung!!!

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The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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joeP's picture

I take exception to your statement...

" stay away from these NON HUMAN, SOUL SUCKING pieces of utter moose dung!!!" I live in New Hampshire where there is a moose population and I have to say comparing these creatures to moose dung is offensive to me. Moose Dung is a great source of fertilizer and helps our forests grow. N's serve no purpose and help to destroy everything they come into contact with.

Barbara's picture

joeP

fair enough...

let's go with blowfly excreta, ok?

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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joeP's picture

Yes

Blowfly excreta it is :)

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

moose.....

i hear ya!..even moose dung is more capable of doing something GOOD than a Narc or Psychopath....

quietude's picture

re: answers

This is really good, Barbara. It's what so many of us ask, especially in the beginning when we're wondering WTF just ran over us. Getting these answers and them really sinking in is a huge step toward healing...a lot of things start falling into place much more easily. "Acceptance" that an N is an N is an N is what pulled me out of my massive confusion...

wallaby's picture

"Moose Dung"

Good one, Barbara - it's on the list.

Barbara's picture

more acronyms for Ns

fly excreta
pond scum
hemrhoids
boils on the *ss of humnity
walking dingleberries

and my favorite: expendable

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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wallaby's picture

Wow - I hit the motherlode

of N imagery with that post! Thanks, B. I've noticed that you, Rache and Narcnarc have a great cache of this stuff. I think with psychoN's like your threes - the way you survive must be through a gut-wrenchingly good sense of humor! I hope to start a new post this weekend with all the descriptors I have collected.

enoughalready's picture

wallaby

I love to be on ths website and read some of your replies, seriously, it's almost the only time I laugh per day. Keep the humour coming, it lightens up my mood. Thanks for sharing:-)

wallaby's picture

enoughalready

Thanks, Enoughalready! I thank god for the humor I found on this site. It was the first time I had laughed about the chronic grimness that goes with N attachment!

enoughalready's picture

wallaby

Love it! I wanting for your reply...:-) lol!

seancunningham's picture

Hi Quietude!

As hurtful as it was at the time, it was a harsh wake up call.

A wake up call that I did the right thing in leaving a toxic individual. I'm in the acceptance phase right now. Still in the "I can't believe I made such a bad choice" frame of mind. But, I got away before he could inflict anymore damage. I survived!!! Thanks for your support.

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

they don't care...

about anyone or anything...they don't care whether you're hurt or angry...they don't care whether you're happy or suffering...they don't care......

seancunningham's picture

I Don't Care

When I left...we had our "exit" interview a few days later. N actually said, "I don't care...I never did."

I think of that day and wonder how I was so infatuated. I was looking at the real person that night. It was a different person...cold, indifferent, cunning. I saw brief glimpses of it when we were together...but never expected how evil it actually was. It scared me so much, I wound up getting pneumonia right after.

When someone says they don't care about you, what's there to love? Nothing.

quietude's picture

sean

Wow, sean. It was hard enough to find out my ex didn't care, and I know it like I know my own name. But to hear the actual words coming from him would have been shattering. I'm so sorry you had to deal with that :(
You know, this is one reason why NC was so important to me, I just didn't want to hear anymore hurtful things coming from my N. I had my fill...