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a poster from the forums narcnarc and I were kicked off seems to be stalking here.

She has written a rather nasty post on her own blog about myself and narcnarc. This woman btw, has been banned from other forums for stalking & making fun of abuse victims.

I honestly don't care what this sick person says about me... btdt... but I do care what she says about Lisa and about narcnarc.

Lisa pays for this forum out of her own pocket. I am the moderator but Lisa reads this forum (unfortunately her busy job keeps her from active participation) and we speak. I report to HER. Final decisions are LISA's. Her name is on the forum and I respect that completely. Before I do anything major - I check with Lisa. That's the bottom line.

narcnarc has been severely abused only to be maligned by this person.

Here's what she says about yours truly:
This woman is a MODERATOR? A "leader", a wise woman, for a group of people hoping for a decent life after years with an abusive narcissist? What is she trying to tell them? That she herself is hopeless and so is her "buddy" and DON'T YOU DARE SUGGEST OTHERWISE.

No words of support, or any empathy for that matter, for the members who've begun to open up and risk sharing their shame and pain. God forbid they HOPE for a better life, this "destroyed" woman will set them straight!

You know, whatever. "Barbara" has the perfect right to be the way she is.

But is she "moderator material" for a group of very vulnerable individuals recovering from abuse and violence?

As damaged and hurt as we are by our abusive scenarios, we are not made STUPID by them. And that is why most of them, anyway, will steer clear of this forum.

Lisa Scott! Pay attention to what's going on on YOUR website. Pay attention to your good name and reputation, which is good enough with your written work and public appearances. Take another look at this forum and ask yourself if "Barbara" is your idea of a guide for people you hope to give a leg up to?

I am posting the link here so you can all read it and respond, if you want... I'd rather you all see it from me than just bump into it on the web:

http://bink-think.livejournal.com/12785.html

narcsurvivor's picture

where would I be without

where would I be without this forum? Probably reading Sam V's book...yikes...or be on some other forum that would feed me god knows what for advice.

Barbara's proven dedication to this forum astounds me, as the time commitment involved is nearly a fulltime job. I'm so glad to have her as our moderator. She is all about common sense - something the Ns in our lives have tried to overpower in order to control us.

One little note about all those links from the psycho stalker: these links that are being included here might be boosting her pagerank. That wouldn't be good!

Barbara's picture

don't care because...

I don't really care if its boosting her pagerank or not... her rhetoric alone would show everyone how insane and harmful she is...

I don't think people with crazy blogs should be ignored... that's how Columbine happened...

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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narcnarcwhosthere's picture

stalking the wrong people

she made a mistake coming here. she is used to stalking and attacking members of forums who are still confused as to what they'e stepped in. everyone here knows what a Narc is, and what a Psychopath is, and can recognize one. now that's she been recognized for what she is, hopefully this predator will do her stalking elsewhere. however, she has shown everyone firsthand how a Psychopath behaves. i doubt she'd be pleased to know that she's been HELPFUL to members here, instead of HURTFUL, like she had in mind!!

quietude's picture

a big mistake

Yup, that was a big OOPSIE on her part. I guess this speaks to our ability to spot 'em.

If her intention WAS to be hurtful, good luck with that ~ I've lived with Satan...not much scares me.

Barbara's picture

refuses to stop

Yup, Satan called... he'd like his sister back!

and she doesn't give up: http://bink-think.livejournal.com/13480.html

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

lady_in_dubai's picture

Thankyou Barbara

I just wanted to thank Barbara for all the work that she does.

The advice I have received on this forum has saved my butt.

Thanks so much Barbara. Your advice is clear and supportive and very timely. A lot of people are so wishy washy when they try to help and that advice can be deadly for us.

It amazes me how twisted some people are, trying to bring down good people.

Go Barbara!!

Barbara's picture

a note from Barbara

thanks guys... thank you so VERY MUCH... this means a lot.

I only get about $25/week to moderate here to cover my costs so this is not a paid position. I am here because I want to be and because of my commitment to the healing of victims with truth, honesty and clear direction as well as real tools.

Unfortunately, that crazy person has not given up:
http://bink-think.livejournal.com/12921.html

I am glad she isn't affecting anyone here. She seems to think that because I have come to a conclusion where I know there is no hope (for MYSELF ONLY here, not talking about ANYONE but myself) but I have learned to deal with what IS for me. I don't try to make anyone else feel hopeless... everyone's situation is individual. But I will not feed anyone codependency, blame, blanket forgiving or touchy-feely-hopey magical thinking. No amount of bubble baths, facials, glasses of wine or mini-shopping sprees will make it any easier. They only way out is THROUGH. I promise to tell you the truth, it's up to you do what you will with it.

I hope you've taken a minute to read about the fund I have set up for members helping members on the right.
http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2010/03/13/contributing-support-site-whe...

and thank you all... I wasn't fishing for compliments... I just feel you should hear things about me from me first. I was a member on a few boards that had some wackos on them in the past. Since starting my abuse blog and subsequently coaching victims I, like many abuse victim workers, have developed stalkers & naysayers. Unfortunately, this one followed me here. This won't be the last time this happens but I do promise never to attempt to cover up what should be exposed.

Nothing beats fresh air & sunshine to beat abuse!!

Hugs all around...

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

Lisa E. Scott's picture

Barbara rocks!

Well, you all know how I feel about Barbara. She and I discussed this situation and we thought it best that I not even dignify this crazy woman, Bink, with a response. I will stay true to that decision, but I do want to post and thank Barbara for all of her hard work.

I cannot moderate this site because I would jeopardize my current job if I were to do so. I am an HR Director and I enforce internet policies at work. "Maintaining a personal website during working hours" is a violation of professional conduct that I enforce as an HR Director. For me to violate the rules I am there to enforce is hypocritical and irresponsible. Not to mention, when I'm at work, I must focus on work. My HR career is what allows me to pay my bills and keep this site going. I travel a lot in my job and don't have the option of visiting this site every night from my work laptop.

I had a vision for this website and thanks to Barbara and each one of you, that vision has become a reality. We truly have an on-line support group full of unbelievably supportive strong women and men who know what it's like to try to love a narcissist. Nobody can understand what this is like unless they have been through it themselves. We don't have to explain it to each other. We just get it and can speak freely and feel understood.

I think it would be selfish of me to come on here late at night when I can and start throwing my weight around. I am proud of my book and the fact that I created this site. However, if you ask me, this is Barbara's messageboard and I will not pop in periodically to throw my two cents in. It would confuse people, including me! I often ask Barbara for dating advice and she just winces. :)

My point is that Barbara rocks and no one could moderate this site better than her. Thank you Barbara for all you do!!!!

Big Hugs,
Lisa

Barbara's picture

the smear doesn't stop

http://bink-think.livejournal.com/12921.html

Perhaps Lisa Scott has become busy with her life post abuse, promoting her books, and left the forum unsupervised? Maybe the forum is the least important of her priorities at this time, which makes sense considering

Members this is simply not true... yet this person continues to slander. Complaints should go to abuse@livejournal.com

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

quietude's picture

silly

Ya know that's just insulting now...
Yes, we are all little children out of control running amok on Lisa's board! I'm a little long in the tooth to be supervised, thanks very much...

A little jealous of someone else's success much?

Barbara's picture

quietude

that jealousy thing has been suggested to me 3x over the weekend... so I guess that's it.

really... my gosh some people need to get a hobby!

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

TexN's picture

Barbara, We think You're the Bomb!!!

To Whomever U R Bashing Barbara:

If you don't like her style, STAY OFF OF THIS WEBSITE!!! If you don't like what she has to say, DON'T READ IT! I think we are all capable of fending for ourselves without your assistance. Barbara has helped many of us with her knowledge & YOU obviously are curious to know what she has to say since you seem to know of her latest posts before many of us!!! Go find someone else to harrass...We got your back, Barbara!!!!

rache's picture

I'd like to say,that

the person who is bashing Lisa and Barbara is a psychopath and should NOT be a nurse,or,in any profession dealing with people who are at a disadvantage.SICK BIOTCH here.

rache's picture

Nothing we say

Will bother her-SHE,psychopath.

Barbara's picture

thanks

she's been blocked from here (we hope) - she's written more today... justifying her further bashing of Lisa

http://bink-think.livejournal.com

I'm not concerned what she thinks about me, but she is accusing Lisa of not caring about this site (by having me as moderator) and ignoring her own "mission statement."

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

rache's picture

Sounds like

A FKING psychopath.......

malloryforest's picture

Barbara got me through one of the darkest moments

I have to say that I completely disagree with any of the negative comments made about Barbara. She has truly helped me to walk through, survive, and grow from one of the darkest chapters in my life. Before her support and wisdom, I really believed all of the lies and manipulations. I couldn't see straight, and questioned my reality all of the time. Today, due to this site and Barbara, I am growing, raising my terrific kids, and leading a much better life. I understand how to set boundaries, to stand up for myself and my children, and to trust my perceptions. My divorce is almost final, and it is Barbara who gave me the nudge and support I needed to fight for what I needed, and what my children deserved. I can't ever thank her enough.

seancunningham's picture

Kudos to Barbara

Barbara, just want to say THANKS for all of your support. You made me feel so welcome when I found this site. I needed your strength and you provided it for me. You are a true inspiration to us all. Thank you for being there and keep up the great work you're doing here!

God Bless,

Sean

Barbara's picture

sean

thank you Sean! Wow... I am humbled...

Sean I hope you keep up with your new blog - I have a few gay friends who could really benefit from your story. I know from my own blog on Psycho-Boy - it helps more people than you'll ever know.

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

janetc's picture

After the previous comment I

After the previous comment I am afraid to visit the site (I don't want to risk trojans or viruses!) but have gathered enough information here to know that she is totally off.

After 30 years of marriage to an N (yep it took me a looong time to wake up) and now just separated, divorce pending, I can say that without Barbara and these sites, I probably would have been hood winked into staying with him.

After being with an N, we need someone to call a spade a spade and be brutally frank with us. I have some in my circle of friends who tell me just to "get over it" and "have fun" Yikes...that really discounts what has happened to me and does absolutely nothing for me but to make me feel worse about myself for not being able to do that. I appreciate the frankness and truthfulness of the posts here.

Thank you to all for your truthfulness and frankness and I am growing daily in strength and courage because of your openness and willingness to bare your souls to help others.

ForeverLearning's picture

I Fully Support Barbara 100% In Her Work With This Website

Barbara, I think you have done the right thing by posting this person's link here out in the open for all to see and be aware of.

Of course this hatemonger's remarks are complete and utter hogwash, I personally attest to that fact after having spent countless hours here in the past few months and being very familiar with your comments and your approach to doling out advice and guidance to the people who come to this website.

This woman (although I have not ruled out the possibility it could be a man, that would make more sense to me actually) obviously has a personal chip on her shoulder towards you and is attempting to discredit your valueable work on this website for reasons of disliking you personally.

And that is dishonest and lacking integrity.

I also suspect she could possibly be in cahoots with Psychoboy if it is not in fact Psychoboy himself. Just a thought.

As I have stated before, I am eternally grateful for Barbara's dedication and devotion, extreme amounts of time and energy poured into the maintenance of this website.

I can't think of another who could possibly do the job as well around here as Barbara does. What would we do without her? We wouldn't do half as well, is the answer.

Barbara provides a firm, no-nonsense style of providing information and guidance that is ESSENTIAL in helping victims get away from a Narcissist and move forward with their lives.

Frankly Barbara and her style of running this place is beyond reproach and absolutely irreplaceable!

I have no time for an outsider's negative remarks regarding Barbara and how she takes care of business around here. Barbara does a remarkable job and God help us if we were to ever lose her.

Barbara, I am deeply sorry that a misguided hatemonger has chosen to throw stones towards your efforts here but I will be the first to whole heartedly say her opinions are without merit, misguided and hate based and don't hold water in the grand scheme of all things regarding this website.

Thank you Barbara for all you do around here, as I stated you are irreplaceable and I wouldn't have you change a thing regarding the style in which you approach sharing your wisdom and experiences with others. Not one thing. I love your 'foot in the ass' way of doing things. It is just what the doctor ordered when making a break from a Narcissist.

Please don't allow this hater's unkind words to have any effect on you in any way, other than to further propel you to continue to do exactly as you have been doing around here. God bless you Barbara, and keep up the FANTASTIC WORK!

quietude's picture

virus?

The bells and whistles went off, trojan horse alert with that website...just fyi for anyone who doesn't have good software to block.

Anyhow, I read though some of her stuff, and she certainly seems 'off' with her stories and replies to those poor people asking questions. The feeling that I got was harshness and paranoia (there's someone out to get her at work, but she seems to be enjoying it in a way??)

If anything, she gave Lisa a plug, and hopefully the smart folks will join us here to get some REAL help..
How awful for her to exploit the forum and the people here...get a life.

Barbara's picture

quietude

really sad and sick, isn't she?

if you knew the rate of sign-ups to this site you'd know how sad that person truly is. We now have well over 1000 members...

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

quietude's picture

yep

If anyone has any doubts, just keep reading. It's all right there.
In one entry, she says 'sorry all your Sam V. haters', and refers to believing in 'inverted narcissism', taking responsibility for her own pathology.

Okie dokie then!

I think she is hitting below the belt, not just commenting on the website, but she mentions your struggles, and your KIDS...that is a big no-no in my book.

Barbara's picture

thanks

Thanks ladies... I wasn't looking for compliments - frankly I think this person's jealousy is impossible for her to control.

My god - have you seen this post of hers? She still reads some site where she's BANNED and comments on posters:

http://bink-think.livejournal.com/11313.html

Beyond sick... really hateful. Did you see she's a NURSE?? wow, my sympathy to her patients. She's a big proponent of codependence (yuk) and that victim's CHOICES CAUSE THEIR ABUSE, from what I read. WOW... just WOW.

what she says about my kids & my living situation she, like many disordered persons, seems to get it partly right. Throwing just enough truth in with the lies & smear to make it sound plausible. I assure you I brook no BS from exNH. My kids are old enough now to defend themselves as well.

ForeverLearning - PsychoBoy already recruited one person a while back to help discredit me... I wouldn't put it past him. Going after someone PERSONALLY is always the last resort of a pathological. And she can love "Sam V." all she wants... since he likes reabusing victims too.

bitterdestiny's picture

Just speaking for myself I

Just speaking for myself I get nervous when barbara responds to anything I post. Not in a bad way I have 2 very good friends that I swear if they both come up my driveway together I'm running lol. She just tells you how it is that's all kinda like a ok I'm here if you need me but I'm gonna give you a swift kick to make you see there is better for anyone out there. And on that note Barbara I had to think of you today I'm on day 3 and had a really rough day nothing related to him just my past ( I ran into an old friend who was there when my son died) anyways I almost called my N ALMOST then I thought back to these boards and remembered he doesn't care that I'm hurt he could care less. So baby steps but because I know I can't vent and get honest answers and support from here I was able to do that :D so thank you xoxo

Barbara's picture

bitterdestiny

if you even THINK of contacting him - come here.

WE CARE - he doesn't.

hug

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

wallaby's picture

Bitterdestiny

Good for you not calling and remembering he doesn't care. When I have made the mistake of calling for comfort over something. I end up doubly hurt, from the first thing (the reason I was seeking comfort) as well as a new scathing burn wound thanks to my N.

bitterdestiny's picture

thanks barbara and wallaby

I usually call him when I get upset but wallaby you're right he would of been there for me then held it over my head later. I read somewhere when you quit smoking an urge only last for a few minutes then you're ok. So that's how I view this ordeal when I want to call which hasn't been to bad lately I try to get busy to forget next thing I know its a few hours later. Well four days down (I'm going on hours here lol) 26 more to go. My therapist said the first month is always the most dangerous and difficult here hoping she's right and I can make it :)

Barbara's picture

bitterdestiny

it takes 18 months for deprogramming - which after will end the urge to contact
the urge to contact varies from person to person

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

Visit My Info. Website for Abuse Victims

wallaby's picture

OMG

That link is terrifying and indescribably destructive.

Nothanx's picture

Barbara

I had a therapist once that was really nice, and kinda , for lack of a better word, pussyfooted around my issues. I liked her very much and I felt she supported me, but she really gave me no help or solutions. As much as people may get offended by Barbara's in your face reaction, WE NEED THAT! I finally got the courage to dump my narc only after finding a therapist that gave it to me strait, and she held me accountable for MY part. She gave me assignments and information to read. So even though people may get their feathers ruffled by your style it is really the only way to deliver the message in order for it to sink in to the victims clouded head. We have been fed so much bullshit, that for me, it is refreshing to get clear honest feedback.

neveragain's picture

Following the Guidelines Here

I want to absolutely add my support to Barbara and her interaction with all of us on this board.

Barbara offers clear guidelines, advice, links and reading lists that give a very solid and grounded place to begin our healing.

The fact that Barbara spends her time and energy supporting all of us is amazing. She always tells it like it is and knowing the truth is the only way to get to the "other side" of this insidious and debilitating situation.

Being affected by an N is a unique and devastating experience. Only from her experience and vast amount of research, can she give such great advice.

I feel very comforted by Barbara's presence here....I know that I can count on her to cut to the chase and have a good handle on "what to do when.....".

I acknowledge and am following the "no dating until 18 months out" guideline and it has helped me SO MUCH. I've spent more time on healing myself and I am finally really "getting it".

Thank you, Barbara. I feel very protected by you.

You're very much appreciated and I for one, couldn't imagine my healing path without you.

neveragain