here is a little on how narcs think, and act!

here is a little on how narcs think, and act!
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Hi,
I wanted to share part of an email I got from my ex narc. It would be the last one as I blocked him after this one. I'm sharing it because it tells of his and I'm sure all like him, way of thinking, which is full of manipulation.
I had written him, as I was trying to recover, and told him I was going out that night. He had changed by this time (or rather, become more like himself) and I was deeply hurt. I was simply trying to keep my head above water and told him I was going to a bonfire with a group I was in. Not long before this he was telling me he wanted to spend his life with me, that I was the greatest thing to ever come into his life, and all the other crap that goes with their honeymoon phase. This is how he responded to me. His words are in quotes:

"Sounds like the guys at the bonfire are in for a treat."

"I imagine you changing position and recrossing your legs, swinging them in a planned pattern to offer a quick view to the chosen one or ones across from you. I think that you aren't looking right at them but are observing out of the corner of eye. Several of them notice but you pretend not to see. A little later you casually get up to adjust move the chair a little nearer the fire but then have to squat behind it to adjust the legs, allowing your skirt to drop away as you lower yourself. It gives another, just a little longer view. You are gauging the reaction again, smiling at yourself as you realize what an impact you are having on several of the cuties. - Ah, the executive assistant stockings. ---"
I didn't make it out that night. The email made me sick. It hurt. Many months have passed now. I don't much miss the love I thought I had like I use to. I am still struggling with many invasive thoughts and feelings though. Depression has been triggered, fibromyalgia is worse and it is just plain hard recovering. Still it feels like it is getting easier with time.
Who knows what he really wanted to accomplish with the message. To let me know he didn't care about me. To treat me like a whore? He ended the same message with this:

"I have been thinking about you and our calls and emails. I am so relieved that your anger has lessened." (NOTE: MY ANGER HAD NOT LESSENED!) "Concurrently, I am concerned that you will let down your guard and allow my dysfunction to hurt you again. I really wonder if we should get together at all? I wonder if we could have a sexual relationship where I pay you for your services and if you would be able to compartmentalize it away from your other feelings?"

"Perhaps we can try it, evaluate it, and decide if we are each equipped to continue."
The jerk tried to get me to do lots of things. Model nude, let him videotape me or us, I was never sure b/c I just told him no, and prostitute myself.
As you can see he made it look as though his request was to a prostitute! I have never been one and he knows that. He knew how it had hurt me for him to have asked me to model nude (describing to me other women who had modeled nude for him)-- so he took it a step further!

And, "allowing his dysfunction to hurt me."
Gross right?! He continued to say he would not hurt a flea, but his dysfunction on the other hand had hurt many people. He said he was sorry that I ended up being a casualty of his dysfunction.
Thanks for the place and space to share.
c-g

narcnarcwhosthere's picture

puppet masters

they try to make us their puppets..they love to see what they can 'make' us do...especially if it's something we wouldn't normally do.......all part of their sick twisted game.....
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calamity-g's picture

puppet masters

narcnarc-- yep and it is sickening! Sigh... Relief to be rid of such a low form of life. calamity-g

Jessika's picture

those email clips you shared

sound very much like my ex. Really hard to read them. He would also describe his perceptions of what he thought was going on when I was out with others in overly descriptive emails. Used to creep me out. I hated to receive those.

The other thing I wondered is if this IS my ex N. (not saying that as a joke... I'm really wondering). They write extremely similarly and my ex actually said to me that he preferred to have a "pay" relationship with a girl and we ended up getting in an argument, as I screamed-- "You basically want an escort!! I was so hurt and afraid that I was in so deep (love) and was at his mercy.

Hope you continue on this difficult journey of healing. All the best to you.

Jessika

calamity-g's picture

those email clips

Jessika--
I've had this same experience, where I think IS that My exN? They are so much alike! Mine sells insurance. Did yours?
calamity-g

Jessika's picture

No

mine owned a few businesses in Europe and here in the United States.

My goodness... they write SO similarly. It sent chills through me when I read it. I thought... OMG- I am seeing what he is doing with his new girl.

As there say- pathology is predictable. It is only us normals that come with colorful/ interesting personalities and thoughts. They on the other hand are clones (with regard to deviant behavior and thoughts) of each other. Disgusting, immoral, cruel, sick, power hungry, controlling, greedy, monsters

Take care ;o)

rache's picture

Internet whoremongers/psychopaths/narcs

My ~OLD~perverted psychopath narc i met online where he predators using phony profiles/ages/states etc......he uses his ED/d limp d..k like a pacifier and wants sex when he ~FEELS BAD~.He called up my now ex friends to seduce into phone sex when we were just on the honeymoon-married 1 1/2 months!!!! He will be 67 in aug and is on second pacemaker,diabetes,3rd year of end-stage heart disease,neuropathy,high blood/cholesteral etc..NOTHING helps these freaks-blood sucking,soul-sucking/destroying fkin g monsters.MAY GOD help us all....

Barbara's picture

we aren't even people to them - just parts

I'm posting this again for anyone who wants to see it and hasn't read it... Psycho-Boy's "hooker reviews":
http://www.datingpsychos.com/view_psycho.html?psycho_id=44
(warning: ADULT CONTENT - scroll down)

He of course, once he realized I'd seen them RUSHED around to delete them - told his wife I'd "made it all up" and it "never happened" (despite police confirming it and busting his favorite madam & brothel - it was all over the news here at the time!)

And rache and CG - here's something from my other blog that you (and other victims of Sexual Narcs) will appreciate.
http://thestumblingblock.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/porn-hookers-masturbat...

Yes, ladies THIS is what they think of us... this is what Sexual Narcs think of their "partners. As 'parts' - sex toys.

And rache, Psycho-Boy went after my friends too. Treated my buddy lists on IM like I was his pimp. If he lured someone in he got them to cut me off by telling them I was a love-sick stalker and he really "LOVED ONLY THEM." puke puke puke.

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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rache's picture

Barbara((HUGS))

Today i have been absolutely ~SICK~ I know my psychologist(thank God at 7:15 i have an apt)said there would be good and bad days like this -getting over it,but,i have had 4-5 dizzy spells since yesterday and runny diareaha...ever since the ex friend told my son the psychopath had hurt her....she also said he was EVIL/NASTY/and full of demons! Well,why did she get involved wkith his a.. when i warned her?She also called him,and,me crazy and said WE deserved each other! THIS! when she came on to him back.....

ForeverLearning's picture

So Frightening

You know internet porn is such a problem for our society, and I personally think it really magnifies and intensifies the perverse sexual addiction problems of these men. I am sure he is addicted and spends countless hours viewing it, just by the tone of his response to you, and how he turned something innocent (a bonfire) into something so filthy and sexual.

His email is absolutely frightening. Thank God you got away from that VERY creepy sociopath. God save the next woman in his sights and God bless you.

calamity-g's picture

so fightening

Thanks ForeverLearning,
and all for your responses. Right now I cry some while I read these responses. Why didn't I see the disrespect? I only felt the pain of how it felt. I don't know why I was more hurt than frightened.
Thanks and God bless you too.
calamity-g

quietude's picture

gag

Eww, creepy is right!
This just screams total PERV-O!!!

You know, after reading this, it made me think of how I grew to resent my N because sex was so much about HIM. By that, I mean, he'd tell me stuff about him, send pics of his body parts, etc...talk about what HE wanted ME to do to HIM.
I was like hellloooo? What about me??? I had never been in a relationship where I felt like everything was so one-sided.

He was not into my body, not really into watching me, what I was wearing, sometimes just for him...he did not care. He wanted me to initiate stuff and just adore all that is him. Talk endlessly about how great his body was. Of course, I thought, what's wrong with me, why doesn't he adore me in the same way?? Now I know 'why', but he sure made me question how attractive I was (or wasn't)!

TexN's picture

Calamity

That dude is a creep! He talks to u with absolutely no respect. He's seen one too many x rated movies. I am so glad u are no longer with him. He sounds like a filthy dirty ol man!!!

calamity-g's picture

Calamity

Yes. Definitely a creep. I'm so glad I posted on here. Again, I'll say, I was very hurt by the way he talked in those emails. All because he said he had felt rejected by me but really because he is totally NUTS. Thanks for the response.
calamity-g

dysenchanted's picture

The Devil Made Him Do it

" Who knows what he really wanted to accomplish with the message. To let me know he didn't care about me. To treat me like a whore?"

He wanted to hurt you. He wanted to hurt you and then deny responsibility, since after all, HE didn't hurt you-his bad ole' "dysfunction" did it. What an a$$clown, f*tard, douchelord!!!

ForeverLearning's picture

Good response!!

You nailed all three of my favorite cusswords for these jerks!! Way to go, love it!!! : )

calamity-g's picture

The Devil Made him do it

Your comment is sooo true. He enjoyed each and every time he got a chance to hurt me. He knew what he was doing and invested quite a bit of time into figuring ways to do it. "Douchelord," describes him perfectly.
calamity-g

Barbara's picture

calmity gina

I wonder if we could have a sexual relationship where I pay you for your services and if you would be able to compartmentalize it away from your other feelings?

Hello... can you be a sociopath like me? and a complete whore too? That would be great...

OMFG he reminds me sooooo much of Psycho-Boy; who would ask me the SAME KINDS OF THINGS later down the line - once he had me totally roped in. My cognitive dissonance was awful - trying to justify what he'd just SAID or WRITTEN to me.

Hugs CG.

~~~~~~~~~
The world is a dangerous place, not only because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

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calamity-g's picture

Thanks Barbara

Thanks for your hugs. I looked at the site you recommended and it was very good. I have so much to learn. It is such a long process. I wish it was not. All I could feel was pain when he sent me these emails. Just pure pain. At least now I am doing better, I think. Still, I also feel pretty well, kind of damaged. I hope not forever. I hope my heart will completely mend!
calamity-g

wallaby's picture

OMG CG

What a creep!! I love Barbara's translation "Hello... can you be a sociopath like me? and a complete whore too? That would be great..".

Well you most certainly are whore to your N. No Madonna flavor there!

humiliating you is part of it too. Say you were INTO doing what he said (blech) - then he would not be into it as your feeling humiliated and ashamed and bad is part of the kick... That's how he feels his power. If he felt that arrangement of paying you truly helped you out nad made you happy, it would not be so appealing to him. These N's know how to turn perversity perverse!

And the tactic of disavowing responsibility by calling it "his dysfunction" - if he had a clue about what that dysfunction was he couldn't send that email.

Good for you for going NC. Wishing you strength and healing.

calamity-g's picture

OMG-CG

Thanks for your support in my NC! Learned that on here!
calamity-g

Amazed's picture

Yup, they are totally disengaged from humanity of any kind

These guys look at sex for the "thrill" not any sort of intimacy whatso ever.

They do it "compartaentalize it" meaning they have no accountability, respect, or value of you.

They just want to shut it away "in their secret compartment" and sniff you out like a dog.

I am really coming to believe, there is NO intimacy for these guys.

It is just warm plumbing, nothing more.

calamity-g's picture

disengaged from humanity

Amazed-- yep, he said himself it had all been a game. Said he only plays with people. I had been some game, he said he didn't feel a thing. In the end, said it wouldn't matter to him if I died and this was only months after the man asked me to spend the rest of his life with him.
I never truly trusted him. He was however a great con-artist.
calamity-g