Lisa E. Scott

Email from GF of ex N

Email from GF of ex N

I received the following email from the GF of my ex N. He had been married twice before me and both wives and myself obtained restraining court orders against him. He abused his three kids from his 2nd wife that they ended up having psychiatric treatment. He abused my older two kids who were not his and social services threatened to put them on the at risk register if I did not leave him. I have a two year old son with him and he has never sent him a birthday or xmas card/present. He met GF on the internet shortly after we finally split. He ruined my life financially and emotionally and took everything from us, car, home, furniture, money. I warned the new GF but she did not believe me. I met up with him in August last year at his and her request but he was so abusive to me that I don't ever want to see him again. At his suggestion I agreed to allow him to see our son at a contact centre but he has not returned the application forms. He refuses to go to court as he says he has moved on and changed and does not want to rake up the past.

This is the email from her that haunts me daily:

I have to tell you I think you are wrong to deny Mick and Alfie the chance to have a relationship. The police have examined all the facts from the papers you sent, and were of the opinion that you are unbalanced and simply bitter over past events. They advised us to ignore it, but unfortunately it had an effect on those we love. Why do you think you have the right to persecute Mick? If he were the person you claim, and guilty of your allegations there are laws in place which would have dealt with it legally. Full checks were carried out when Mick purchased the business and no convictions or police records were found. You have no right to take the law into your own hands. Your hypocrisy is so evident, denying Mick any contact with his son. Please do not think I am being controlled or manipulated, if Mick were to treat me the way you allege he treated you then I would not tolerate it, let alone keep coming back for more and actually allowing myself to fall pregnant.

We have talked at length about the situation with Alfie, and feel defeated and hopeless. I know that unless you can move on and are accepting of Mick's involvement you will always put barriers and objections in the way. Your past conduct has proved this. I do not particularly want Mick to see you, but I put my personal feelings aside because I believe a child should come first. I wish you could do the same. Mick has suffered since seeing Alfie in August, he told me at the time that he had doubts about seeing him because you would take him away again, and he was right. How can you play with people's emotions in this way? This is something that could affect Alfie forever, if anything happened to Mick you would have to explain to Alfie why he was never allowed the opportunity to know his own father. I am fully aware that Mick is not perfect, none of us are, but to use a child in this way makes you worse than anything you can accuse him of.

Mick has filled out the necessary forms for the Contact Centre, but has voiced his concerns to me that the allegations and lies that you will have put down on your forms will adversely affect the opinion of the staff there. He is willing to address and defend every accusation you may make, but ultimately this will not change your attitude, and this is where the problem lies. He knows that you are likely to fabricate reasons why Alfie cannot attend the centre, making the whole process pointless. His concern also is that even if you do take Alfie, his being left there will be too distressing for all concerned.

I am asking you one last time to reconsider your stance. Mick honestly regrets the pain caused to everyone involved, and has tried to put things right in any small way he can. If you refuse to reconsider then he has no choice but to walk away, and hope that by the time Alfie reaches an age when he can make his own decisions it will not be too late. If you are unable to be reasonable because of your feelings towards Mick then nothing more can be done. At least Mick can walk away knowing he did as much as humanly possible to rectify things, and can tell Alfie this in all good conscience when he has the opportunity, when Alfie is old enough to understand. You have to live with your conscience, if you have one at all, and live with the knowledge that you are considered to be an unbalanced and vicious human being. If you ever find the ability to be reasonable and realistic then Mick will always be ready to talk, but I will not have him living in hope of seeing his own son, a basic human right which you have the arrogance to deny.

I know you will simply come back with more crap about me being controlled, and so please don't bother, it's water off a duck's back. I am simply appealing one last time for you to be honest about your motives. Mick and I need to move on without this hanging over our heads and to know that he honestly tried. I know you will say that he needs to prove himself and his commitment, I disagree, a child has a right to know who his father is, warts and all. All you want is to humiliate Mick and make him jump through hoops. Well this is not going to happen any more. I honestly think that you know in your heart that you are wrong to deny your son his right to his father, but you are in a difficult position with your other kids. You and Mick made the decision to bring Alfie into this world, it's not as if Mick is trying to undermine you or cause trouble, but he does have a right to be a part of his son's life. If he screws it up then you will be able to move on knowing you gave the chance.

I don't expect you to change your mind to be honest, and you will no doubt come back with the same negative responses as before. I ask you to consider one thing though, you too caused hurt during your relationship with Mick, and continue to do so. He has faced and admitted his faults and moved on. When will you have the honesty and courage to do the same?

alfrebob

If you were as low as mick and his gf you would not feel insane after reading that. It was designed to make you feel like the bad guy. Now, even if you were as terrible a person as they make you feel you are, I don't know how that email is supposed to pursuade you into letting abusiv e people care for your little one. You know he just wants to be seen as the victim. He wants to have the right to tell his son when he's an adult, "I tried but your mom wouldn't let me be a part of your life"

Don't respond. If you have the ability to keep your precious little boy away from this monster, by all means, do it. Gf hasn't got a clue what's best for children. If she's pregnant she is in for quite a ride. Mick isn't going to like baby getting all of gf's attention.

Write all your feelings down. Someday maybe your son will want to eead them and he will see you were doing the right thing. He will not resent you. Keep showing him love and support.
Please, if you can, read, Protecting The Gift, by Gaven De Becker. Its all about how our instincts drive our parenthood. You should follow your gut when it comes to raising your little boy.

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nolongercontrolled

What a bitter pill she's

What a bitter pill she's going to have to swallow, as Lundy Bancroft put it in "why does he do that"

If its any consolation

My ex N had 4-5 wives and who knows how many live ins/gfs.It won't last,but,they tend to recycle supply.

My reaction was hey

My reaction was hey good-you're winning! Of course she's brainwashed but they sound resigned.

I have e-mails almost exactly like t his, btw, but from the N directly. One of them is blaming me for denying the children access to their father / a relationship with their father. You'd imagine reading it that they never saw one another. Meanwhile the very least we had visitation at any point in time was 2x a week. What a total joke.

Oops

duplicate post

the girlfriend

they deserve each other

READ: http://parentingwithanarcissist.com/2009/11/06/dealing-with-the-girlfrie...

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The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem

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Why do you say that Barbara?

Why do you say 'they deserve each other'?

alfrebob

I know you're not over him alfrebob
I know you're still missing pretend guy

but you also know what a low-life predator he truly is. If she's going to be THAT willfully stupid and participate in his smear and attacks on you... then they deserve each other... and block her emails to you... just disgusting when the N's proxies participate in their hate and devaluing of the last victim!

how long do we give that relationship members? 12-18 months or less??

you deserve a lot better than him alfrebob... a LOT better

~~~~~~~~~
The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem

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Seems to be lasting

She moved in within 4 weeks. Left her family and job. Now works for his and is company secretary and they have been going for 15 months.

Maybe now that he has NC with me things may change and I hope her comments come back to bite her.

Wait

UNTIL she has to provide EVERYTHING for him!!!!!!!! He was getting NS from you,and,her. Now, that she is ALL he has(to suck from)she has a BIG job ahead of her.My EX N was getting his poor little boy,poor wittle baby,momma will take care of you from me,and,his cheating with anything he could deceive in to doing it.Along with ex #3.

alfrebob

things will bite her on the ass once you are completely out of the picture...

because then his Nrage will have to go somewhere other than you...

give it a year or so...

~~~~~~~~~
The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem

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I give it

12 months or less! My ex (66)-i called his cell and a woman(girl)answered-been about 3 -4 weeks ago when he was professing his undying love for me and trying to sucker me in to coming back.She said DISCONNECTED! then,i called back in about 10 minutes and she answered again and told him-go ahead,talk to her! in a disgusted tone,well,i am thinking OLD supply(recycling),and,he said i will be right out here,just outside here-then,proceeded to tell me his phone had messed up-lying bastard.We just have to get it through our heads=YEAH,we can have him and all of his dysfunctional BS/other women etc until he gets tired of us once more,or,choose to get the F..k over it and find somebody worthy or just give up on men period! I'm about to give up on them,heck,i'm 53 baby days gone,etc....

alfrebob

Translation: "Hi, I'm brainwashed, and I'm doing the devil's bidding for him. Please cooperate or face the consequences."
Stick to your guns, ignore, do what's right by you and your children.

Sounds like a self righteous

opinionated B..ch to me.

She is so convinced

that he is a good guy. In another email she has even said she konws about his past and has encouraged him to look at life more objectively. She says it is the insistence on his honesty that has brought them to where they are today and that it is being with the right person that has made the difference!!!

These emails have nearly driven me insane.

sounds familiar

Mine also told me he 'finally' found the right woman for him too. I'm sure he also told her that she makes him want to be a better man too?? She's got to veil of deceit covering her, it'll be quite the shocker when she wakes up...
The right woman means someone he was able to con and abuse, by the way. It's sickening that she is throwing this in your face ~ consider the source!

alfrebob, please try to keep in mind what he REALLY is, and it would do you good to try to ignore this BS she is spewing in your direction. Best way to let them know you aren't buying what they're selling. One day, you might even feel lucky he's someone else's problem.

afrebob

Her little delusion/illusion will blow up in her face.It may take weeks,months,years but it WILL happen.These guys cannot keep a marriage going.UNLESS,the woman takes them the way thdey are and puts up with their s..t.