I just ended a business with a narcissist. He has terrific skills in remodeling homes but no one ever refers him or hires him again. He has no clue that is why the business wasn't generating much income. He has such a high opinion or himself that reality doesn't play a big part in his life. He is one of 9 children of an alcoholic mother with 9 children. He was abused and uses this to control the people around him. He also carries a picture of his monster, bi-polar mother around with him as he has a fascination with her. Everybody cuts the guy some slack because his childhood was monstrous but then people figure out he abuses them and they start to put some distance in play. He is the king of the martyrs but if his mother was such a monster then why the picture which is large and he keeps it in his agenda. All of his brothers and sisters are into drugs, most in jail, many dead and it is the perfect setting for people with sympathy and empathy to get involved with him. He is cruel, un-caring, and difficult. I think he really represents the mixed bag of tricks that the narcissist often presents. The 'victim' is always trying to find some way to deal with them and to feel sympathy for them but it always ends with the goodbyes!
September 2, 2009 - 10:34pm — Barbara (not verified)
LOL - no it's just that there are loads of these types on Planet Narc. A friend of mine read this and said it described her ex to a T! It fits my exNH to a T also.
Narcs love to play martyr. Either before during or after. Psycho-Boy acts like a martyr to 'big bad awful' me. ROFLMAO!
Barbara it's so clear to me now they are all cut from the same cloth. I can't even say the levels of abuse from one to the next are different because it seems as time passes the level just keeps ratcheting up. I'm sure had I moved in with this jerk he would've become physically abusive just like the creep I was with when I was in college.
I was always the bad guy too. Whenever anything was going on not only was I the one having to apologize but try to be understanding of all the stress he was under. Stress from what? He doesn't even work! He doesn't even try to get himself out of his situation. I could never accuse him of being abusive because like it says it was all done in a subtle way. It was all emotional and mental twisting of reality. If accused he'd put on his most wide eyed innocent face. At first he would talk sweetly and calmly but then he would become irate and raging. There was also another look he would get at times in the beginning it was endearing. I learned to hate that look because with that look came the lies.
Funny how in the beginning of when it all ended it was his decision. Once I cut all my contact with him for that month, his next call to me was how he hopes I understand he hasn't been around because he's going through a tough time. I've heard that alibi before from my mom. It was always a tough time. She couldn't teach me to cook, sew or visit when I moved out because it was a tough time. When I was getting married she wasn't happy for me because she was an old woman what did I expect. When my daughter was born she never even held her or saw her in person only pictures. Because she was old and going through a tough time. My mother went to her grave never knowing her only grandchild. They're always full of excuses and reasons and damn you if you try to change anything or OMG live life. I pity them they cause havoc and unhappiness then wonder why they are alone. My mom was a good one for crying how all alone she was playing her martyr role but she was the cause of it! My N is the same way. He can't understand why so many people hate him. I guess I should make him a list LOL.
Barbara this woman must have dated my guy. Everything in here is him, the behaviors, attitude, patterns. I'm just floored.I had to copy it to put in my journal, all of it is so fitting a reminder in black and white exactly what he is and what he does. When I was reading about the parents it reminded me of an issue he was having with his mom, who is now in her late 70s. Once she got her email account she began looking for people she knew to see if she could reconnect. One of the women she was trying to find was someone she suspected her husband(he is passed on some years now) had an affair with. She would then get moody and sit around and dwell upon it. My N has never said much about his childhood a few stories that he repeats over and over but nothing about the relationship at home. I suspect like this article states he was much like his dad.
GOODBYE Martyr Man!
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September 3, 2009 - 1:13pm — CarolynI just ended a business with a narcissist. He has terrific skills in remodeling homes but no one ever refers him or hires him again. He has no clue that is why the business wasn't generating much income. He has such a high opinion or himself that reality doesn't play a big part in his life. He is one of 9 children of an alcoholic mother with 9 children. He was abused and uses this to control the people around him. He also carries a picture of his monster, bi-polar mother around with him as he has a fascination with her. Everybody cuts the guy some slack because his childhood was monstrous but then people figure out he abuses them and they start to put some distance in play. He is the king of the martyrs but if his mother was such a monster then why the picture which is large and he keeps it in his agenda. All of his brothers and sisters are into drugs, most in jail, many dead and it is the perfect setting for people with sympathy and empathy to get involved with him. He is cruel, un-caring, and difficult. I think he really represents the mixed bag of tricks that the narcissist often presents. The 'victim' is always trying to find some way to deal with them and to feel sympathy for them but it always ends with the goodbyes!
martyr man
September 2, 2009 - 10:34pm — Barbara (not verified)LOL - no it's just that there are loads of these types on Planet Narc. A friend of mine read this and said it described her ex to a T! It fits my exNH to a T also.
Narcs love to play martyr. Either before during or after. Psycho-Boy acts like a martyr to 'big bad awful' me. ROFLMAO!
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September 3, 2009 - 9:45am — MarieBarbara it's so clear to me now they are all cut from the same cloth. I can't even say the levels of abuse from one to the next are different because it seems as time passes the level just keeps ratcheting up. I'm sure had I moved in with this jerk he would've become physically abusive just like the creep I was with when I was in college.
I was always the bad guy too. Whenever anything was going on not only was I the one having to apologize but try to be understanding of all the stress he was under. Stress from what? He doesn't even work! He doesn't even try to get himself out of his situation. I could never accuse him of being abusive because like it says it was all done in a subtle way. It was all emotional and mental twisting of reality. If accused he'd put on his most wide eyed innocent face. At first he would talk sweetly and calmly but then he would become irate and raging. There was also another look he would get at times in the beginning it was endearing. I learned to hate that look because with that look came the lies.
Funny how in the beginning of when it all ended it was his decision. Once I cut all my contact with him for that month, his next call to me was how he hopes I understand he hasn't been around because he's going through a tough time. I've heard that alibi before from my mom. It was always a tough time. She couldn't teach me to cook, sew or visit when I moved out because it was a tough time. When I was getting married she wasn't happy for me because she was an old woman what did I expect. When my daughter was born she never even held her or saw her in person only pictures. Because she was old and going through a tough time. My mother went to her grave never knowing her only grandchild. They're always full of excuses and reasons and damn you if you try to change anything or OMG live life. I pity them they cause havoc and unhappiness then wonder why they are alone. My mom was a good one for crying how all alone she was playing her martyr role but she was the cause of it! My N is the same way. He can't understand why so many people hate him. I guess I should make him a list LOL.
WOW!
September 2, 2009 - 9:25pm — MarieBarbara this woman must have dated my guy. Everything in here is him, the behaviors, attitude, patterns. I'm just floored.I had to copy it to put in my journal, all of it is so fitting a reminder in black and white exactly what he is and what he does. When I was reading about the parents it reminded me of an issue he was having with his mom, who is now in her late 70s. Once she got her email account she began looking for people she knew to see if she could reconnect. One of the women she was trying to find was someone she suspected her husband(he is passed on some years now) had an affair with. She would then get moody and sit around and dwell upon it. My N has never said much about his childhood a few stories that he repeats over and over but nothing about the relationship at home. I suspect like this article states he was much like his dad.
Thanks for another terrific article!