Lisa E. Scott

He Abandoned Me, What does this mean?

He Abandoned Me, What does this mean?

He abandoned me, what does that mean? Is he going to call again?

I am feeling rejected and i know this sounds immature, but I feel like he won in some way. Saying he would never call me again and he is moving on. But yet, i have been reading posts that N's try to push the issue and continually try to get back in your life. Is this what i have to look forward to?

He just stopped all emotion one day, and was cold as ice, how do i interpret this?

I don't think i have to

I don't think i have to worry. I exposed the rotten SOB to his boss for all that he really is. I told the police everything about the creep. He knows i exposed him and he knows i will do it again if provoked. For me it is the only way. I am past the point of no return. Its recovery or death. His overtly controlling nature makes him far to dangerous for me to have even one conversation with. I have to keep him in fear of exposure or i am sure to be victimized again. He must stay away.
If this nut came back now he is a gluten for punishment because i will never stop telling the truth about what he is. I have made it my mission to inflict injury upon him with every bit of force i have to protect myself. I am not laying down ever again.
I think he believes me now. I may actually be more dangerous to him at this point. He cant handle the truth. Hes running scared. Run little coward...RUN! winning or loosing isn't really relevant in my book. Its how your playing. I got my game on now! Eyes wide open.

They do come back like a bad

They do come back like a bad smell on the landing . At the weekend I was at an event and low and behold wank face narc was there , I ignored but he did two things first he talked to me when I was in a group of people because he knew I would have to answer as I would strange if I didn't , I did yes no answets till my friend stepped in to change the subject . He then after the group broke up came straight over to me and said "you know scoop I will refit your boat for you " (this was the plan before the 6th d and d ) I crossed my arms got up and said nothing , I went home . How could he think I would trust the freak to do anything for me . Today he invited me to a film showing . He has been trying to hover me back all months just under the radar , so they do try and come back mine has 6 bleeding times ! Its laughable really . The only closure you get is when you close the door . ..scoop x

Scoop is right!

The only closure you get is when you close the door! Do not give in to him. Do not react to him.

Getting a reaction out of you is like a drug to him. He gets off on it and he needs it in order to feel alive. It gives him a thrill. Without it, he feels dead inside. This is why he will come back simply to insult you or demean you. If he knows he can't get a positive reaction from you, he's going to try to elicit a negative reaction. All he needs is a reaction from you to get his fix - good or bad, he doesn't care - as long as he gets a reaction from you. He likes to know he still has some kind of hold or effect on you.

Do NOT give him this satisfaction. Please Do NOT feed his addiction. Starve the Vampire, ladies. Let him get his fix somewhere else. The only way to deal with a narcissist is to go "No Contact" and refuse to react to him.

same thing happened to me

Mine abadoned me and went cold one day as well. I had no idea what to do or what to think. He tells me that he doesnt want me in his life and that he is moving on and I should too. However, everyone hear says that they will be back. They are just hiding right now. They are waiting for you to forget what you exposed them with or what you learned about them. Once you have finally moved on with your life and you do not think about him every second of the day is when he will be back. Watch out

Abandoned

Mine pulled a Houdini before we were to get married and I have not heard from him in 2 months.

He acted like Prince Charming until the very end when he turned into a toad...what a jerk!

The show up even before

From my experience they show up even before you managed to move on with your life.
I just felt a bit better and he was back. After a week he was back again. I just wished he could leave me alone. But i know he will be back.

dobuled post

doubled post sorry

My Birthday

My birthday was the trigger for me ending the ordeal. N was pissed because the attention was on me. The D&D started the night before. I knew I was in for a long haul. He cooked me dinner on my b-day, and all but threw the food at me. He looked like a Stepford Wife preparing the dinner. I tried engaging him in chit chat. His conversation, if you can call it that, was disjointed and scattered. I was given the silent treatment during the meal. And then he told me I was smothering him. The whole ordeal was uncomfortable and embarrassing for me. I should have left, but I stayed for the duration. He then disappeared the next night and most of the day after that. I ended it. I'm better off. These people are whacked.

"Whacked" ... LOL

LOL. I just had to laugh at that. You know it is the simplest and truest description.

Quick question - what does "D & D" stand for?

Devalue - Discard

So technical, but that's how the narcs see us. It's unemotional. Objects. They Overvalue us in the idealization phase (makes us feel great and sucks us in,) then, they start saying things that make you feel like you are walking on eggshells, when, without warning, Wham! He rages at you and everything he claimed to like or love about you is the opposite! You mean nothing to him. Yesterday's news and you're left wondering "what just happened?"

There is no in between with these guys. No gray. You are either playing your part perfectly as he has scripted your role in his head, or, you are not playing your part and he's got someone else he thinks would suit the role a little better.

He is sick sick sick! Emotionally handicapped. He stopped developing emotionally at age 5. It's shocking! I was in a major depression for a couple of months, but I'm happy to say that I have been much much better and I am improving every day! You will too! What you are feeling is normal.

Marie & Barbara

I was literally just having a panic attack - missing him and wanting him and because it is so lonely and I am at the start of recovering from the shock of the abrupt way he left I wanted to come on here and say that I want him back because anything would be better than the pain of this lonliness and emptiness. I just wanted him back and to take his sordid deal because it would be better then being alone.

Then I saw Marie's post to me and I feel so much better! And Barabar's post about "free sex nothing more" and now the panic is passing. THis is such a great forum everyone!

I can't believe that guy Marie! So he just starting chasing you and being all wonderful again simply to reel you back in and hurt you? THis has come as a warning to me - I gave my N so many chances and would think "just one more time and he will be nicer" and it never happened so of course it won't happen now> he will just use me for sex and discard me again.

I'm so sorry that happened to you but at least you had the wisom to look back over your journal and remind yourself that he is well..a lying pig! I have to believe that a guy like that will get his one day he can't possibly be human. Why do that to you? I'm sure you did nothing but love and give in that relationship. I can't believe how awful he is.

Thanks so much you just helped reduce my panic and reminded me of why I don't want to be with him. You guys are right...some other woman can have him and his sleazy ways, his lying self, his mood swings, his ability to make you feel like dirt, his cheating habits, he is a pig. I don't want it and I don't want him!

I understand

Cupcake I understand those attacks of wanting him back. When my N was nice the relationship was just wonderful but when he decided to dismiss me from his life it was so painful. I was discarded coldly because I found out about the other woman. I wasn't even looking to break up with him as stupid as that sounds now but he just didn't want to be with me any longer. I don't know why and will never understand last March why he started to reel me back in. Even still there have been times when I've gone back to the beginning and remembered what it was like. I've had those moments like you and I begin to think maybe had I behaved different, maybe I became too much of a nag. But if you talk about marriage with someone and then find they are spending time with other woman; don't you have a right to know?

So I'm not judging you in any way about your desire at times to want him back. You do have a memory of happier times and it's hard to understand that it was a lie. You begin to blame yourself that it didn't work. And you can't and shouldn't. There was a reason you became unhappy, for accusing him or arguing with him. There is a section at the end of the journal where I've listed exactly why I broke contact with him last August. My breaking contact then was the beginning of the end because he went cold on me after that. I often think back that when he tried to hold the relationship together had I not done some of the hurtful things I did we would still be together. Then I had to remind myself why I did those things. It was to save myself from the pain he was causing me by lying, cheating, using me and then discarding me at times when he grew bored. As wonderful as he could be it was becoming more obvious that I was just a sex toy for him.

There have been times along the way this past year that I've thought of trying to get him back. I always go back through my journal and remember all the pain he caused me. It would still be going on had I not decided to finally get off the ride. I'm lying at times when I say I don't miss him but I will never go back.

Be well!

Cupcake

Cupcake, I just had to write you also. I'm so sorry you are going through so much pain. I remember how I was a year ago and the pain my N caused me. I lost so much sleep night after night, constantly checking phone and email. Leaving myself signed in hoping he'd contact me. After 3 years of daily contact to 3 months of nothing. It was the most hurtful of all experiences in my life. A year later I can still feel that pain, I don't think it will ever go away. Whenever I see him sometimes the ideas start anew but mostly I'm reminded that whatever I had with him will never be again. It comes back that all he did was use me, that all his "I love yous" were lies that he now tells another.

About 4 months ago he started trying to court me again. Stupidly I began thinking maybe he realized that he made a mistake in letting me go. I'm sure most of you can guess what happened. At first he was once more the charming man I fell for, it was so easy to fall back again to him. I wondered about the other woman and what happened with her only to find she wasn't really out of his life. Then the broken promises began, little remarks that were cutting to finally another disappearance and avoidance. Whenever or if ever I've thought of calling, emailing or having any kind of contact I reread my journal entry of April 17. It reminds me of what a heartless, lying pig he is and how he'll go back to hurting me the same way over and over again if I let him. He once again went back to ignoring me if we passed one another, not even a glance in my direction, this from a man who just a month ago began once again to tell me I was the only woman he ever loved. Funny his daily calls went to biweekly then once a week to nothing. No more email, no more calls, no more courting to giving me a number to reach him in case of emergency but then never answered. Does that sound like a man in love? No it's a bunch of bs to reel you back in so you can be stomped on. It's all lies and the way these guys treat you they treat another woman the same don't believe any different. Why talk yourself into going back to be in pain again?

Please speak with a therapist and try to find out why you want to be involved in an abusive relationship. If this man turned to ice on you once, he'll do it again no matter what he promises. Let him win and move on to someone else to hurt you deserve better.

Discarded

Hey guys, I just read all of your stories and it felt like each and everyone one of them had many parts which competely relate to my situation. I'm so sorry there are other people in the world that have been hurt, used, discarded and push and pulled by these bad people. It hikn you are realyl brave to come on this site and be so honest and share feelings and stories. For me it is really helping. I'm so shocked though - some of you are married, have kids etc I can't imagine what going through all of this must be like.

My N has discarded me since I confronted him about his girlfriend and like some of you said has just dropped off the planet like he has disappeared. I know it hurts and like you are syaing one minute he is so passionate and loving and then so cold...and gone. Most of you are syaing that they will come back to get some sort of rise out of you...whether ngative or positive. Is this relaly true? Why would they do that? For entertainment or can they not help themselves?

My N is a little different - he has always had long term girlfriends and 'mistresses' on the side. He has a lot of difficulty letting go of those girlfriends and cries and is broken when they leave him...but all 3 girls have kept going back to him in the past even when they find out he is cheating. He has so much power. He didn't leave his girlfriend for me though I guess I'm not better 'meat on the grill'. I need to know they aren't going to work out I feel so rejected to be rejected as just the mistress and I don't know why. I'm better and smarter than this.

Do you guys think he will try and contact me again? Even though he is a little exposed with what he has done?

Cupcake

I so relate to the way you are feeling right now. I'm sorry you are hurt and confused. Next month it will be a year since I was thrown away like a piece of trash. Honestly I wanted to die and it felt like I did. The only thing that kept me going was my daughter, I couldn't let myself just fall to pieces; my mom was like that and I try to be the opposite.

I have to ask you since your situation is similar to mine. Why do you want to stay with someone who has caused you such pain and is involved with others? I remember how I cried for days when I found out he was trying to reconnect with the woman he dumped before me. To realize he never loved me, it was devastating. Then when I found out there were others that was it! He is just using you like he is using them, he is a pig I'm sorry if you might find that offensive. None of you are winning anything by staying with this person. Eventually he will find others and you will all be replaced, maybe he'll come back down the road but I ask again why would you want him? The rejection you feel now you will feel over and over again, do you want to be subject to that? As much as you love him, you might not believe it but get your life in order and move on.

As to why these guys come back it's all a sick game to them. They come back for attention because their latest victim dumped their a$$, to torture you some more because they are evil or see if they can win you back so they can dump you again. It's not because they realize how much they love you, they don't know the meaning of the word.

If this guy should try and contact you again I would say no deal. Don't answer and don't contact him either. I know you want things back the way they were; I wanted that too for awhile. Once the pattern starts it only continues into a vicious rollercoaster, don't get on it.

Hugs

For Marie

Hi Marie! I'm sorry to hear you have gone through something simlar and I am guessing even more pain. I'm so happy you have a beautiful daughter you can concentrate on - someone that will definietly love you back! I think I need to think about some of these questions...why do I want him back?! I guess firstly I miss him and did love him so much and hoped and hoped he would want me for his girlfriend and stayed in there thinking we would grow closer and eventually he would love me enough to value me.

But now I am at the very beginning of understanding that is never going to happen. I need to say goodbye somehow, get some sort of closure. He just totally disppeared it's not like before when he would give me the silent treatment for 2 weeks then come back strong. He has relaly gone this time. i told him I knew about his girlfriend, he denied it course but the next day removed me as a FB friend and dropped all contact so I knew for sure it was true. He lied to me! After everything we shared together he just left so quickly and abrubtly like I meant nothing to him.

It helps to know hear everyone say no contact is wise...I guess with more time this will sink in. I need to be in a place where if he does come back (and I hope he does) that I am strong enough to say so I get the last word. I just feel humiliated, used for sex, cheated on, used for his entertainment only - from someone you realyl loved that so hurts!

Thanks for listening and sharing!!

Cupcake

Reading this made me teary eyed, it brought back that pain all over. Mine did the same thing to me. We started off as friends after a year I began seeing him and after that he began treating me like crap. He would disappear as well, never answering the phone or email then would come back and act as if all was well. It got old very fast but I couldn't let him go, not until I found there were others he was courting. Once the crap hit the fan he blocked me out of his life. I remember signing on everyday hoping to catch him online; nothing. Then I used a different name he didn't know and caught him signing on within a few minutes of me signing off. That made it plain as day.

He also had a FB account that he never told me about. I discovered him on their when my cousin sent me an invite to join. There he was and there were all his ladies, especially "HER". So I joined FB. Not long after that he told me about his account, I'm sure because he saw I was on there so I wouldn't think he was hiding anything. I didn't mention I had signed up. When it was brought up again at another time, I let him know I did have an account; the next day his profile was gone. So much for him saying he wanted to remain friends. He's a liar they all are. Cold hearted evil creatures.

He continued sending emails for a bit and calling but all that has stopped now. I figured out he has another name that I'm not privy to and now no longer care. He has gotten rid of his cell phone, so he says. With each thing he has done I realized he was totally cutting me out of his life. It was painful but after awhile I just felt whatever, I wanted to be left alone. Like you it's obvious he just used me for sex. He promised so much and I loved him completely but as promises were broken all my dreams died. I felt so empty, so stupid. I hated him, myself and everyone. I actually deleted the majority of people I knew off my buddy list and address book, only keeping those that are proven trusted friends. Humiliated, ashamed? Yes! The whole thing was a lie, it was hard to swallow that I had spent so much time, been so intimate and to be so betrayed. When I think of the times I spent with him it makes me want to throw up. What a fool I was. I used to think he must have gotten a good laugh of how gullible and easy I was. I no longer care but doesn't make me hate him less.

Today I ran into him after almost three weeks of no contact. He looked at me with such contempt and said nothing. He got in his car went tearing off. It's hard to believe just two summers ago he held me in his arms and I felt so loved. I hate him for taking my dreams away, for using me, for lying to me. I will never forgive him.

Stay strong don't ever go back!

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he could have moved on and

he could have moved on and might have someone else. They come back when they want something emotionally, physically, or financially. You are fortunate to be away and out of it before worse things happened. He has nothing for you but painful experiences and painful memories.

how he contacted me

This is months after the break-up and I exposed him for what he was to everyone (to no avail btw), he wanted my address to forward mail he received. I told him to go **** himself. Two weeks later he sent the mail to one of my best friends, accompanied with the most friendly, charming note, again... as if nothing happened. I instructed (that's how you become)my friend to ignore him. And it took me soooooo much strength not to react, but I didn't and it now feels good.

lisolotte

LOL! Looks like we are on the same line of thought. Thanks for the comment and yes they will try or do anything just to keep us in their sick plan of manipula~sic~tion.

But the worst part of it

But the worst part of it is... to anyone not understanding what's going on, YOU seem completely paranoid. "Ahh but he's just being polite trying to forward your post, and he even writes a nice note with it!" There's nothing wrong with that..! They don't see but to you it proves how truly disordered they are.

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A couple weeks ago I dreamed I killed him, in the most sadistic way. I was shocked at myself when I woke up. That's how deep my hate towards him is. Sad... isn't it... pfff, excruciating and energy sucking.

Liselotte

Absolutely so true. Everyone thinks my mental case is the greatest of guys and he would be if he was sincere. The thing is it's not his true self. In private he says nothing nice about anyone. After awhile I realized more and more of his nasty comments were about me as well, I was also included amongst the people who annoyed him. I asked him once if you feel that way don't call me or email me any longer, leave me the **** alone. Of course it was my low self esteem getting in the way, he didn't mean me. Uh huh, another one of his little mind twisting games.

He always offers to help but don't ask him. Hate people like that would rather no help be offered. I understand your hatred and dream. How can you not feel that towards someone so evil. It's almost like one of those sci-fi movies when the human image is ripped away to reveal an ugly alien creature. The only thing is you're the only one who sees it, unless they're someon who also knows the soul sucking creature.

Marie

It's so validating when someone knows and has been through the same.. Thanks for your reply!

I remember our first

I remember our first 'fight'... I told him how I felt and he said; this feels like a break-up conversation... He said it in a really sad way. I was just stunned.. It blocked everything, but of course I had no idea what I was getting in at that time!! I felt guilty for being 'hard on him'. If he reacted this way, he must be insecure.. and he was about to leave for his mission to Afghanistan, so I explained that it had nothing to with a break-up.. of course not!!

Never, ever project your own neuroticism onto them, they're not like you, they're not insecure. They are character disturbed, never got punished for being bad by their doting mother. Indulged all their lives.. No empathy, just ME ME ME.

Back Burner 2

After reading some of these reply concerning this issue. One other thing I like to offer is if you want NC (No Contact) don't be surprise in the many different ways they will try to get phone numbers cell numbers email address and/or other information on you. On my blog site under Expect Anything

http://james-personalitydisorder.blogspot.com/2009/06/expect-anything.ht...

You will see how they will get other people involved and try to manipulate others to get what they want. So please expect anything and everything for whoever has no morals or conscience will try and do whatever they want no matter who gets in the way. So please be careful out there and more so on the web.

James

I dated another N years ago, didn't have the name for him then but now I know what he was. We were apart for three years,no contact whatsoever. I was engaged to be married and don't you know he called me at my job. A job I never told him about, somehow he tracked me down; this was also before the internet. He ran into someone that heard I was getting married mentioned it in passing not realizing this crazy would come looking for me. I'll never forget picking up the phone that day and hearing that voice again. All I could say was "how did you get this number?" He then tried to talk me out of getting married saying I was on the rebound. After three years? I think not. How could I be missing someone who tried to strangle me.

They are sick bastards whether male or female and you definitely have to always be wary because you never know when they'll pop into your life.

Back Burner

When Dr. Carver talked about this issue (them leaving) and how even if it’s their ideal to discard some of their old supply it doesn’t mean we get one off the hook completely. In fact all they really do is put that supply on the back burner and then at a later date will try to reconnect if they feel they can get something out of them. Once I remember him replying to a reader when asked what was the longest time a person has been put on the back burner and then out of the blue been contacted again, I believe Dr. Carver stated one he knew was about 20 years. I believe others might even report a longer period of time concerning this issue. So even if one is abandoned don’t think that’s the end of it. Because sooner or later you will hear from them unless they're dead or are in prison. Sad but True. These people truly live up to the saying “The gift that keeps on giving” or should I say “taking”...

http://www.drjoecarver.com/3/miscellaneous2.htm

haha the gift that just

haha the gift that just keeps on giving...i love it

"Cry now because you lost him or cry later because you have him."

fights

They set the stage early on with the 'resistance is futile' kind of attitude.
This is when we had our biggest battles because I was not quite under the spell fully, and everything seemed so unreasonable. I can relate to the 'stunned' effect. You're thinking, did I just hear correctly?? I called him out back then on his behavior, but still, he managed to twist it all around somehow. And of course, eventually it was easier to just give in and agree with everything.
Gosh, I wish I cut and run then, when I initially knew something was wrong. Better late than never..

that's it!!

what you have just written IS ME!!! Everything... wow... they really are of the same breed, every single one of them.. unbelievable...

Im so sorry you feel this

Im so sorry you feel this way .I too am in the same boat . I seem to have a "runner" too . One minute they love you and the next they go cold usualy after you have pointed out how they have made you feel bad .
Im in day 3 of no contact and lo and behold i get an email causaly asking me how i was and whats going on in his life and i think here lies the diffrence between a narcissist and a normal guy . A normal man will end things ,sad as it maybe, in a calm and considered fashionand then respect your space to grieve . A narcissist will come back time and time again to get his fix , to see if you are still "on the floor" .
I said to myself that if he didnt respect my space as i have made it clear i needed then he is the Narcissist i suspect him to be . So this email is where he got RUMBBLED!.
Its so hard to see the truth unravell infrount of you but in a way its good to know its not me its them .With just 3 short days away from him and reading on this site there seems to be light at the end of the tunnel . Hang in there . I always say to my girlfriends think back to other boyfriends that you have had , other heart breaks and really ask your self would you take them back now or do you wonder what you ever saw in them . I know i look back at past boyfriends and think "yuck" to most of them and they didnt have narcissism so god knows what i will think of this guy when i have gone through the tunnel and out of the other side and away from his sick spell , its just im not there yet .
Jo UK (with broken spell check )

perutoo

That is a very good way to put it. "We got a RUNNER here!" Mine was a runner too.
Sounds like a convict...interesting!

I got a damn call last night at 2:00 in the morning from loozer-face/runner man. Of course, I didn't answer. Yo, thanks for waking me up.

Forrest Gump - I was Run..ning

Thank you ladies...

See this may be silly to say, he hasnt even tried to contact me, I feel discarded in the worse way. He ended it and it is like he died...it seems that most N's come back for more (like your N's)

I have been strong sticking to the "no contact," but I am actually speechless...that he hasnt tried ANYTHING, no type of contact whatsoever.

Doesnt it in some small way make you feel a little better and empowered when you can CHOOSE not to answer a call from the N? I know that it would at least help some of these hopeless feelings, just thinking that I was at least a passing thought in his head.

If he called i wouldnt answer, but I think, in a way it would give me some kind of feeling of power if I could just not answer a call for him or something. I feel so helpless. Does this make sense?

Once he discarded me there

Once he discarded me there was no way he would have come back to me. This was it, and he knew it. They don't ruminate or think back at the good times. They have no doubts. You no longer function as a Narcissistic Supply, you're a pain in the ass, you bring them down, so they dispose of you. In fact, just after the break-up mine got on with his life as if nothing happened. He went on vacation, organised bbq's, ran two marathons and didn't even want to meet up with his collegues from the UK (who bought tickets to Amsterdam, our wedding location) on the day of our 'supposed marriage'.

You're waiting to get back at him, to ignore him, to do the things he did to you, but he knows you're on to him, you've finally figured him out so he will definately NOT contact you just to upset you once again. Please keep in mind that he is a very sick, abusive, manipulative motherf***er and will never be able to love someone in the way normal people love eachother.

There is no closure with a narcissist, just closure with yourself. You deserve better.

liselotte

I couldn't have said it better myself...and mine did the SAME thing. After I let him have it and he knew I had his number he moved on unscathed as if he was never married to me. It was bewildering. He even went to Prague for a week to "relax." And when I was furious over this, he said, "Why can't you just be happy for me for once?" All about him!

He will never conact me again. I believe this. I think he knows that it will NEVER work, he knows I think he is the devil. I hung up on him June 4th and haven't heard from him since. He's on to his new victim.

I do sit and wait to get back at him or have some sense of closure..but I know that day is NEVER coming. Florida here I come....

"Cry now because you lost him or cry later because you have him."

Cherylnn, how long has it

Cherylnn, how long has it been? Sometimes they wait months. I understand the empowered feeling to not answer a call, but I must add, I would rather be in your shoes than in mine. He calls and I don't answer. Then curiousity (or looking for some kind of human life), I answer only to be reduced to tears after 2 hours of torment...me trying to tell him how I feel and him not giving a shit about anything or anyone but himself. He will deny something that JUST happened, gaslighting me when I WAS THERE and know what happened! It's insane. Consider yourself lucky. I know the discarded feeling even tho he still tries to contact me. He discarded me by promising at the beginning to take care of me (financially...I had lost my job shortly after we met) and when he got me to trust that was what he really wanted to do, the "help" got less and less month after month til my house went into foreclosure. Meanwhile, I never changed what I did and how I cared for HIM. Yup, discarded. Like yesterday's newspaper. Oh, and did I mention he still payed his EX-Wife's mortgage even tho he was not obligated while MY house went into foreclosure??? Nice, eh? Yeah, she has a 375,000 house and I will be living in one of my siblings basements soon and have to likely give up my German Shephard. I hope he rots in Hell, and you know what? He will.

Devoured_soul

I'm so sorry to hear about your house. Gaslighting is such a major technique with these creatures, they have it down to a science. They must spend hours thinking of things they can do to hurt others. If only they used that energy for good, it's hard for me to understand how anyone can torture and ruin someone else's life.

Once I stopped answering my Ns calls he'd show up at the house with this attitude at times. Other times he would pretend concern that maybe something had happened to me and he would feel terrible that he didn't stop by to check on me. I have been N free for a little over two weeks now but saw his car today. His friend lives a few doors down from me but when he parks his car where he did today I know he's spying on me. I know it sounds paranoid but from experience it usually is the beginning of contact from him. I hate my N, I wish I never got involved with him because now I can't just live my life. I may lose my house too because I feel the only way I can be rid of him is by moving.

I wish you the best in getting things in your life back on track.

Hugs.

I hear you sister . The

I hear you sister . The reason he contacted me wasnt that he is sorry for all that he has done and that he even misses me . no . the reason he contacted me was for me to engage in a conversation like this
Him " how have you been im sorry i hurt you "
me "i love you and miss you cant we work it out "
him " im sorry Jo but i dont love you and i dont think i ever have "

So he contacted me to dump me all over again .
Hence getting a narcissist fix .

I have wised up to his game now as it has happened 3 times already in a space of a year .
yes he did come back twice, he promised happy ever after with babies and a house with a red door but then he ran .
and he will run again and again because he is a narcissist .
Maybe if its not too hard you could tell us what happened , how long you where together and what he did to you to suspect he wasnt all there .

much love
Jo

wow

How terrible perutoo! It just goes to show how incredibly evil they are. Mine abandoned my three times, it took that last time for me to realize his WORD means ZILTCH. When I read about how narcs are contract breakers, I thought, bingo. That's sooo him. Forget the fact that we were engaged...hmm, wonder why he put the wedding off for a month, oh ya...maybe the air fares were cheaper then!!! I can joke about it now, but at the time, it felt like an amputation.
It's incredible how similar the stories are.

after the break up

After three months of no contact once he dumped me, he began courting me again. Stupidly I began to think either things would work out between us or at the least we could still be friends. When we got around to talking about the relationship, he said he could never love me the way he did before. His emails after that were just a mix of sexually suggestive photos and then nothing. Once again vanished, leaving me to wonder why I almost got sucked in again!!!! I went back to reading my journal and marked a new entry in bold so I can easily find it and remember what a bastard he truly is.

Thank You Jo

Thank you Jo, that must be really tough being rejected a few times, you are worth so much more than that!! and none of us ever deserve this. Every time, I read these blogs I am brought to tears about the pain all of us are going through to recover.

To read more about my story, you can scroll down through the posts under "He Abandoned me" and read...posts from CherLynn and Bittersweet. I had two usernames because I couldnt figure out how to hide my email address when I posted, so i created a second username. Not the most technologically savvy. :-)

Any advice would be helpful, as it is written all over my face day in and day out the trauma that this N has put me through. Anytime someone asks me what is wrong, i try to hold back those tears, sometimes I am able to, but at other times I am not.

Thinking back with my Ns

Thinking back with my Ns when i remember the times he said he wanted to leave and the times he did leave there was this coldness in him like he had turned to ice and his eyes where dead and i felt all the energy flow from me as he was saying it, like all my power had gone .incidently he use to threatened to leave when i had just stood up for myself, so in a way it was like he was stealing back any power i had just gained .
so he used abandonment as his weapon of choise to keep me under his control , together with shameing and talking to me as if i was 10 years old and consently telling me i was wrong . ect ect .(he is such a wanker)
When he got into this robotic state he was devoid of any emotions, even made up ones ! it was like talking to a brick wall .
I have just come back from a festerval which i really wanted to go to as my dad had just paid for a really posh hotel in London for me and i go every year to this place (and damm it i wanted to go! ) but he was there which is why i couldnt do the no contact thing till i got home sunday .
On the friday evening we had our first meeting since the break up a week before . i was sat on a bench and he plonked him self down and said with out me saying a word to him he said "sorry i broke your heart but i never loved you "and i felt that same energy leave me once again .
so i guess what im trying to say is everytime you give then the oppertunity to dig the knife in they will .
You may feel like picking up the phone to call him but just remember my friday evening on the bench and how i went back to my posh hotel and sobbed all night .
Heres me with my best cockney accent saying to you "walk away girl , head up and walk away .
ps . i will proberly need the same adivice in a week or two as i aint that strong !

Thanks Quietude and Perutoo

I just think overall any type of rejection is going to hurt....I asked my N, while I was begging him to take a leap of faith and give us one more try, if he still did love me...only a week before the answer was Yes, but this time there was a long hesitation on the phone...my heart sank, we hung up the phone (i couldnt stand hearing his cold tone of voice) then i proceeded to drink a whole bottle of wine and crumble to tears. Helpless, there was nothing i could do or say to get through to him. I wanted to call him so bad...and i knew it would only break my heart further. I asked him if he was ever going to call me again...he said well right now you are pushing me further and further away by keeping me on the phone...."I might call" there it is false hope, bottom line these evil N's dont want you to have any closure. They are heartless...like i mentioned in another blog post on this forum....someone who would treat someone this way...doesnt have human emotion, its of the DEVIL and I pray nightly that "everything he touches turns to nothingness until he meets God." I wish I could get through to him, but this is the only peace that I can find are in these ten words. The tears, I hope will eventually dry up and I am trying to move on...but his memories and all THE GOOD, is lingering in my head...I UNDERSTAND what happened, I just cant believe it! and cant believe there are people out there like this that prey on good people.

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my n has left tons of times, then come back. threatened, this that breaking up, restraining orders, this is the last time we'll be with each other, im done and im moving on, do not contact me again, if you contact me again im going to the police, called my family to tell them to tell me not to contact him, told my mother he was going to sue them if i contacted him...all in the same breath he called me, right away and began expressing the complete opposite. In some cases, periods of silence or no contact, to play the game...days of no contact, weeks...will call slowly back, will call one day, then not the next, will call one day, to tease you..slowly condition you into them calling you again..will gloat at how you suffered because you didn't talk to them this long... will say 'goodbye' at his place everything is fine but suddenly is ignoring and playing the silent game, for no reason confusing you...at first the games were traumatizing, but slowly become predictable...but sometimes still you think "will they contact again...are they for real this time" but those times are rare...but they still keep playing the game...you try to play the card by saying you're breaking up...and want an official break up, but that just thwarts their game and they know you're not serious... theyre in control and...they have you running to them or confused...or frustrated...sometimes they do leave things or things you cant believe they'd do will happen and it i generally very abrupt and sudden...that's how they make decisions, abrupt sudden unpredicable and surprising...that's how all decisions are made...

This is a situation which

This is a situation which keep replaying in my mind . it was early morning and we where staying with friends in Brighton . I came out of the bathroom and he was standing at the window laughing .I looked down on the street and there was this man who was clearly in distress , proberly drugs but non the less he was stumberling in the road crying . My first reaction was to go to this chap to see if he was ok .As he was dressed i said arnt you going to do something ? (my ns thinks he is a pillor of the comunity involved in many diffrent causes) he didnt go and help he just watched and laughed .
Right there is the diffrence between he and i .
I am trying to replace the thoughts of the good times with the truely disturbing .
I feel like one of those people who have to be kidnapped from a cult by their familys and have to be put through a program of reprograming .
In reality if you where to give my Ns a score out of 10 for life he would be a 4 . below average . No money ,no ambition no Brad Pitt , few close friends . but some where in my head he has become a 10 . how did that happen ?
Jox

cherlynn

I'm so sorry. I know what you mean...there is a 'bit' of help to my ego to know he still wants me. But it's really just a shallow feeling. If you think and dig deeper, it's not a good thing.
I think that he must have had some kind of other option, why he so easily abandoned me, and maybe that other option did not work out so it's back to me. So I'm sloppy-supply seconds?? Maybe, it's all speculation...still no closure regardless. Who knows, who cares, I'm done with trying to figure him out. On the other hand, I've wished that he'd just find someone else and go away. Him continuing to contact me gives me the willies...and errie feeling of the past being tossed in my face at every attempt. The fact that he doesn't get any of it, and he thinks that all we need to do is talk, and magically things will work themselves out. In his mind, our issues aren't THAT BAD. heh..sure. His words are empty. It's like an actor recited tired lines...it doesn't mean anything.

So I think there are pro's and con's to both, if you even want to call it that. Either way, it hurts like hell, and it's a daily process for recovery. Keep coming here...talk to people who really love you and care about you. It's a process...one baby step at a time.
Hugs!

oh yeah....

Hi Ladies,

I'm baaaack..... :-)

I hear you all and have had the same experiences. And it can be very confusing. I think those of us who experience the abandonment are actually the "lucky" ones. Who wants or needs a stalker? All the more difficult and dangerous.

Mine left me like a piece of rotten meat he couldn't stand to see or smell. Only because he had another piece of fresher meat on the grill....

Yes, it hurt like HELL. I would have given anything at the time to have him come back, apologize, etc. In the ensuing 2 years of separation and divorce processes I have come to have a look at his true nature like nothing else could have provided. I think it was Mae West who said "You only truly know a man when you divorce him."

Whoever said that was right on. You see it play out in a surreal fashion and are constantly waking up saying to yourself "Is this real?" "Am I dreaming or imagining this?" How can this POSSIBLY BE REAL? Then, as the nightmare continues you realize, yes, it is real. Yes, this person you loved and trusted is doing everything possible to devalue, debase and yes, **** you in whatever way possible. Especially in divorce.

Sorry to be so negative. Obviously my own experience is influencing my responses. I'll tell you though, never in a MILLION years would I have predicted this or seen it coming. NEVER> Then....it's all too real. My best guess in my own personal situation is there's another ready and eager source of NS. Waiting in the wings and more than happy to take on the role.

Had a fantasy today which I hope helps some of you laugh. Went to a favorite restaurant of "ours" for lunch with a female friend. Imagined him there with another woman and decided what I wanted to say is "Hello, darling (to the female). "I know the odds may look good, but believe me, the goods are odd". CM

core defense mechanism of a personality disordered

If we have a good sense of right and wrong, the narcissist will sense his time of manipulation and being able to confuse and lie to us is about to expire. He will devalue and discard us first. We likely won’t even know what hit us. We’ll be running around trying to get things back on track. The outcome of this will be OUR learning about the very deeply-ingrained core defense mechanisms of the personality disordered. Not only will we be deeply hurt by his inexplicable hurtful rejection, done in the cruelest way, but we will also fail in any attempts to fix him. The silver lining to this is that the N sensed our strengths, our ability to draw that line in the sand. So he left. That’s what they do. You are to be congratulated if this happened to you. It takes most people years to figure this out.

They say the dog who barks last wins. The N will want to be the last dog who barks. Let him. This is where it should end. Resist any thoughts of responding to the N. We do not need to defend ourselves against some lie from a mentally-disordered person. Refusing to do so is our strong suit. Letting him have his last bark may even give us some proof of his craziness. Use that to your advantage.

Our Ns can come up with some pretty creative ways to get us to pay attention to him. It may take hours, days, months or even years for this to happen. Don’t be surprised if he waltzes back acting like nothing ever happened. (!!!) Don’t get involved with him.

Crazy People Make You Crazy. Your N is amused by your emotions. Put yourself at the eyeglass end of a microscope. You are watching a fly. It buzzes around frantically. Your N knows what it takes to get you to buzz around frantically too. He will play with your emotions for his amusement. You have a much wider range of emotions than a fly and the narcissist knows what he has to do to make you look crazy, buzz around frantically, cry, yell, argue, or any other human emotional reaction he can get out of you. If he’s really lucky he can make you look crazier than he is. Ns like doing this. They like emotional targets. They find it amusing.

How do narcissists experience love? The best descriptor of narcissists’ love style is game playing. We have found this over and over in our research. Narcissists are “players” in their romantic relationships. They get kick out of keeping their partner uncertain about their level of commitment. One day it is “I love you,” the next it is a total brush off.

Narcissists have another advantage when it comes to deception and manipulation: they often believe their own story (!!!). Narcissists think that game playing IS love. They feel excited and cocky and act in a cool, charming way and think; "Wow, this is a really good relationship full of true feelings". He could say he loved her, and not really be lying. However, because there is no actual caring or compassion, it is easy for a narcissist to hurt his partner again and again, even though he supposedly has “deep” feelings for her.

I feel like a reject

My emotions have been a rollercoaster, I have been reading about N's trying to get in touch with their supply throughout this forum, and I am one of the rare instances that this is not the case.

It tough, he made me feel so worthless on the last few calls, not wanting to talk, being cold, emotionless, evil, he didnt want to be intimate...nothing I said had any effect on him. On this forum, I have been finding that the opposite is mostly true with N's that they come back, they want to be intimate...and so on.

I can i recover from this rejected feeling, he said he was moving on and i should move on (a normal person wouldnt act this way) the mere thought of him with another is killing me and the fact that he couldnt care less about what I am doing and who I am talking to makes me feel so rejected in so many ways. He didnt even want to have a last 'moment' together what guy turns that down? He said it wouldnt change anything and he would never want me back or call me and he was going to move on...I asked him to call me later and he said No in the harshes way possible, all he could think about was having dinner and that i kept him on the phone for two hours.

This guy used to be the sweetest, most thoughtful, most considerate, sincere person I have ever met!! We used to have our own nicknames for each other and he really brought the creativity out in me and made me feel like no other.

Today, I am just having that overwhelming rejected feeling, I want to contact him so bad, but I know he will hurt me worse (its been two weeks) I thought about showing up at his place (again, I know its not the way to go with the N's) I keep having thesse thoughts and they wont go away, knowing that I will never see him or hear from him again tears me apart, I miss his face everyday and every night. lately, he has been haunting my dreams..