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Ok. There's blogs and some of my close friends are sayingbthat kate gosselyn is a narc. Do you all think so. She would have been the last person I would have labeled a N! I always thought she was in control of her family not necessarily controlling. Everyone I talk to says its so obvious she's a narc. But I don't think so. Does this mean I'm naïve and target practice for narcs or do these other people just not understand the real definition of narcisism? I never really saw her beginning 'charm' stage. I don't see the fakeness at all. Does this explain why I married a narc?
Interested in your comments!
ROFLMAO!
June 24, 2009 - 8:06pm — Barbara (not verified)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlaY4V1aSY
LOL
June 24, 2009 - 8:16pm — quietude (not verified)ROFLMAO TOO! Good one Barbara!
Kate??
June 8, 2009 - 12:57pm — SuzieI don't know if she is a N or not but I can't stand her husband. He is a big whinney baby. They were on the today show a long time ago and he was whinning about not having enough"me" time. EIGHT KIDS!!!! duh...Hello ofcourse not stupid. Not once did he say WE don't have any time for ourselves. Just me me me me. Wah wah. I knew he was no good. He is a selfish baby.
finallydone
June 8, 2009 - 10:24am — Barbara (not verified)I have to agree... as a multiple mother and a Mom I would never allow my kids to be used this way.
And just wait till OctoMom's show - she's a complete psycho, IMHO.
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June 8, 2009 - 9:27am — Barbara (not verified)Your friends are listening to the press, who are trying to demonize her.
Her husband - Jon - looks like a HUGE Narc with his sulking, selfishness and so on. Kate might be wound a little tight but that's probably in reaction to a Narc husband and eight kids.
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I agree
June 25, 2009 - 9:13am — SuzieI believe that completly. That Jon is a pig, I knew it the minuet I saw him. He is a big fat cheater.
Personally, I think they are
June 8, 2009 - 10:21am — finallydonePersonally, I think they are both just media hungry selfish people who don't care about what this is doing to their kids. Part of the problem with narcissism in America is this type of junk reality programming. Whatever happened to quality entertainment and true respect for actual talent? They both look like self-involved idiots to me.
Reality TV Breeds Narcissism
June 9, 2009 - 1:13am — Lisa E. ScottFinallydone - you made two comments that really struck a chord with me and I must respond:
"Part of the problem with Narcissism in America is this type of junk reality programming."
I couldn't agree with you more. Reality television is a big reason the younger generation is so much more narcissistic than we are. I grew up watching Family Ties, Growing Pains and the Cosby Show. Shows that promoted good values and taught important life lessons. Remember "The Facts of Life" sitcom?!
Today's youth are raised on reality television that consists of nothing more than people backstabbing and competing against each other to get ahead. What does this teach our youth? It teaches them if you don't put yourself first, someone will stab you in the back. It breeds selfish narcissistic behavior, people! It is so unhealthy!
I watched Nightline tonight and it featured the success of The Real Housewives Series on Bravo. Talk about unapologetic narcissism at its finest. Puhlease! ABC reported that this series, with the most recent one being the Real Housewives of New Jersey, has become "must watch television" for the most educated/wealthiest population in America. Oh, it makes me want to cry. The most educated population in America wants to watch Bethenny and Kelly rip each other apart and humiliate each other on national television?! I just don't get it.
"Whatever happened to quality entertainment and true respect for actual talent?"
Again, I couldn't agree with you more here. People used to be gain notoriety for a talent, such as being an artist, musician or great actor. Having such talents deservedly brought one fame.
Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. People are famous regardless of whether they have a talent. They can become recognized by being obnoxious (i.e. Ann Coulter) and crude (i.e. Howard Stern).
Look at Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. What talent brought them recognition? No talent, they have none. They are simply famous for spending daddy's money. Oh wait, I think each of them made a porno with their boyfriend, didn't they? Another healthy example for our youth deserved of much recognition, fame and notoriety, don't you think? Excuse me while I go vomit now.
Jon Gosselin: Anything for ATTENTION
December 29, 2009 - 8:25pm — Barbara (not verified)The ransacking of Jon Gosselin's Upper West Side apartment was nothing more than a "huge, huge publicity stunt," his ex-girlfriend's lawyer told the Post yesterday.
And cops are beginning to wonder if the reality TV star's story has any relation to reality.
Police noted that reporters began arriving at the precinct house even before they had a chance to interview Gosselin about the destruction of his home, sources said.
"How did they know so quickly? No cop could have tipped them -- it was too quick," a source said. "Cops only just found out and they [the media] were already set up outside."
The gossip site TMZ may have been called even before the police were notified, the source said.
Gosselin contends he arrived Saturday to discover his West 72nd Street apartment torn to shreds and a nasty note from the ex, Hailey Glassman, stabbed to their dresser with a butcher knife.
Glassman told police she wrote the note, in which she described the father of eight as a "lowlife," but insisted she did not punctuate it with the blade, the source said.
She also swears she did not tear apart his clothing, smash his family's 100-year-old Ming-style vase, or rip off his electronics.
"To me it appears to be a huge, huge publicity stunt," Glassman's lawyer, Anand Ahuja, said. "There was nothing taken she wasn't entitled to."
Gosselin told her, "I am going to be evicted, so take with you whatever you want to take," Ahuja said.
The reality star, who recently divorced his wife and "Jon and Kate Plus Eight" co-star, Kate, denies that the trashing was a stunt and all but points the finger at Glassman.
"It's extremely perplexing and incredulous that she would acknowledge that she wrote the note that was speared with a butcher's knife . . . and yet she disclaims that she trashed the apartment," said Gosselin's lawyer, Mark Heller.
Gosselin owed Glassman thousands of dollars in back rent on the apartment, which they shared, sources said.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/gosselin_hoax_iIk02F6H7euCH...
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agreed
June 8, 2009 - 10:53am — quietude (not verified)Those two are big time media whores, they wine about how they're treated, but then keep themselves in the forefront and are on every magazine cover possible. I'm sorry, I think they're just both ridiculous in their own way.
The poor kids. And octomom...don't even get me started!
There was a blurb of J&K recently on ET or something, and I remember the mom cheering and telling her husband how great it was that he liked something and he even smiled. I thought WTF, she's delighted because he did something completely ORDINARY. This reminded me SO MUCH of my own experience -- I thought, OOPS, I've done that!...Being overjoyed when he so generously decided to toss some breadcrumbs my way. I am so sad I was reduced to that person.
jon & kate - splitting up!
June 23, 2009 - 8:14pm — Barbara (not verified)http://www.divorce360.com/divorce-articles/cheating/causes/jon--kate-plu...
jon gosselin: narcissistic tool
October 5, 2009 - 8:22am — Barbara (not verified)http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33167914/ns/entertainment-celebrities/
doesn't this selfish dirtbag know his kids are going to read about everything he did & said in the future? My bet? He doesn't CARE!
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jon
October 5, 2009 - 10:05am — quietude (not verified)I heard about this on the way to work, one day he's on Larry King putting the good guy image out there, the next, he's emptying the bank account. No suprises there!
I've heard
June 23, 2009 - 8:23pm — quietude (not verified)You can't help but hear about these two -they're everywhere. How sad...
I like how Kathy Griffin calls the show "Kate Plus 9"!
Jon Gosselin - the new poster boy for Narcissism?
September 17, 2009 - 8:38am — Barbara (not verified)I have been on the fence about Jon & Kate but now I am fairly sure that JON GOSSELIN IS PROBABLY A NARCISSIST:
Nanny Says She Had an Affair with Jon Gosselin
Jon Gosselin Linked to Yet Another Woman Since his Breakup with Kate
By LUCHINA FISHER, CHRIS CUOMO, MICHAEL PRESSMAN and ALEXA MIRANDA
Sept. 16, 2009—
The women just keep coming.
Jon Gosselin recently admitted that he is dating current girlfriend Hailey Glassman. Before his breakup with wife Kate Gosselin, he was linked to elementary school teacher Deanna Hummel.
Now a new woman is stepping forward, Gosselin nanny Stephanie Santoro, to say that she and Jon also had an affair, calling the father of eight "very romantic."
Though Jon has denied being romantically involved with her, Santoro told In Touch Weekly that their fling began when Jon asked her to come over one night during her one-month employment as the Gosselin nanny.
At the Gosselin home, Jon asked Santoro to give him a massage, then proceeded to reciprocate. While they were sitting there, Santoro said Jon told her, "Well, I guess we can kiss just once."
She said he later told her, "Whatever you do, don't fall in love with me, because it's going to be impossible for me not to fall in love with you."
The pair made their way into the hot tub. Santoro said she was afraid "one of the kids was going to pop their heads out, but he told me to relax."
At one point, he got out of the tub and went into the house to make sure the kids were all asleep, Santoro said.
They moved to the apartment over the garage where Santoro said they "continued what was going on in the hot tub, and then he fell asleep afterward."
Jon's reported romantic dalliances have been scrutinized by the tabloids since his split with Kate. While Kate has been began spilling her heart out about the couple's problems, Jon has been exploring the party scene. He was photographed on yachts, living it up as his marriage fell apart.
In a recent People magazine article, Kate jokingly blamed an alien abduction for Jon's transformation from a computer technician into a rock 'n' roll jet-setter.
Recently, Jon told ABC News' Chris Cuomo in an exclusive interview that the headlines have been unfair. Magazine cover stories bashing him and praising Kate, he said, were both off-base and beside the point.
"I would say, let's finish what we got to finish and move on with our lives," Gosselin said. "And stop feeding into the frenzy."
Gosselin: 'I Didn't Leave Kate for Hailey'
In his interview with ABC, Gosselin discussed his relationship with 22-year-old girlfriend Hailey Glassman, the daughter of Kate's former plastic surgeon.
"I didn't leave Kate for Hailey. People think I left Kate for Hailey ... because of the time-frame and what they printed in the tabloids," Gosselin said. "You can't control who you love. I strongly believe that. You cannot control that. It's two people joined together."
Gosselin says Glassman is the "polar opposite of Kate."
"I feel like I love ... love her more than I did Kate," he told Cuomo.
"I get encouragement from her, I get respect from her. Two things that a man needs," he said of his new relationship with Glassman. "This is someone, I mean, like soul mate -- like people joke about that. But I'm not joking about that."
When asked by Cuomo, if he loves Kate, Gosselin replied: "I will always love Kate as the mother of my kids. But to tell you right now, at this point of what's going on, I do not love Kate."
Even before his relationship with Kate officially ended, Gosselin's charmed life in front of the cameras quickly became a life in the tabloids. A photo of Gosselin and 23-year-old third grade teacher Deanna Hummel leaving a club in April spurred tabloid headlines that he had been "caught with another woman" -- allegations which Gosselin denies.
"This was just my friend," he said of his relationship with Hummel. "I just hung out with her."
But there were more photos -- and more women. Kate Major, a former reporter from Star magazine, claimed Gosselin was her boyfriend and that the two had to sneak in sex when the kids weren't around. Another headline prompted another round of denials for Gosselin, who said his relationship with Major was not in any sense romantic.
"No romantic fling," he told Cuomo. "She tells stories."
Now, there is Glassman, the new woman in Gosselin's life, who he says he loves.
"I have so much to lose ... in this situation," Gosselin told Cuomo. "I could lose custody, I could lose my kids, I could lose -- but I feel like with [Glassman] that I'm not going to lose them. It's just going to get better."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jon-gosselin-primetime-exclusive-int...
Is Jon Gosselin Doing a "Peter Cook"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EqotoUGHSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfGNfdYQw74
Gosselin is screaming N to me.
I don't think Kate is N as much as showing some healthy self-esteem after being a mother for so long - and Jon didn't like that.
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Jon Gosselin: Control Freak or Out-Of-Control Narcissist?
November 13, 2009 - 9:53am — Barbara (not verified)By Valery Satterwhite
Not satisfied with the abundance of media attention already showered upon him Jon Gosselin is now pumping up the volume with suicidal threats.
Gosselin former nanny Stephanie Santoro revealed, publicly of course, that she feared Gosselin would kill himself if girlfriend Hailey Glassman left him for good. Some say the threat is an attempt to control Glassman, keep her under his thumb.
Jon Gosselin a control freak? I think not. I see the evolving Gosselin family freak-show a bit differently.
When Jon and soon-to-be ex-wife Kate Gosselin first broke up, Jon was reported to be devastated. Crying in the laps of one cupcake after another he lamented, "Why? Why? Why?" Are you friggin' kidding me?
Call me quirky but the way not to keep a marriage or any intimate relationship intact is to be clubbing around in public with beautiful babies and, oh gee, forgetting to wear your wedding band. Might cause a problem or two when you sauntered home. Schtupping the babysitter doesn't help either. Ya think?
What Jon didn't realize was that a divorce from Kate also meant a divorce from the TLC network. He got dumped from the show "John and Kate Plus 8" (now just ‘Kate Plus 8’) that propelled him into the spotlight. That's where Jon found his true love: the massive public awareness, even if not always adoring, that comes with the celebrity!
A paparazzi favorite, Jon now gets the skirts that he could never catch before his sudden unearned rise to fame as Kate's hubby. Jon relishes the fame, fortune and frenzy that the life of a star brings and he's not about to let it go.
Each time he becomes vulnerable to losing a smidgen of fame factor he does something to turn the cameras back towards him. Break up with Kate -- issue public apology for womanizing and announce a change of heart. Again publicly, he begged Kate to put aside her anger so that they could be good cooperative parents and do what is best for the family. He begged the court to suspend his split with Kate for 90 days. Hmm ... as a court-sanctioned partner in parenting, often present in the lives of his children, meant Jon couldn't be kicked off the show!
But it didn't work. Jon was still off the show.
Next up, forget Kate, enter new girlfriend Hailey Glassman. More fodder for the hungry media. That clever stunt threatened to derail when Hailey tells the press that Jon beat her up and was emotionally abusive.
Uh-oh. Time for another public apology. Jon apologizes to Hailey blaming the media for the emotional pain she incurred by being in the media microscope as his squeeze du jour. He asks her to give him the opportunity to prove himself, while the world watches, of course.
I nearly choked on my pumpkin spice latte when I heard the rumor that Jon was collaborating in a reality TV program with Octomom Nadya Suleman.
Ah, Jon is back with his paramour, a television show that will guarantee his celebrity -- at least for as long as that show lasts. Whoopsie, no such show was in the making. Jon gets yet another shot at a public apology, this time for behavior that may have in some way lent credence to such outrageous stories. Well, I'll give him that. He's a master at exhibiting outrageous behavior that becomes the lead story in the tabloid press.
Well done!
With no new show to ride, Jon realizes he may need some serious help. Who does he turn to? Why of course! Enter celebrity Rabbi Schmuley Boteach, a man who is no stranger to media attention and is still basking in the spotlight of his relationship with Michael Jackson. Boteach and Gosselin engage in an intimate dialog at New York City's Westide Synagogue, the public was invited of course.
Tickets were sold. Why wouldn’t they?
I can't make this stuff up!
This is a tale of an out of control narcissist; someone who hates himself so much that he needs constant attention in order to fill the empty void where his self-esteem should live. The trouble is there isn't a spotlight in the world that can shine a light bright enough to warm this frightened hidden soul. Jon will go to any length to feed the vacant hole in his very being in a desperate attempt to feel good about himself.
The public will be entertained by one publicity stunt after another until it is completely bored or onto the next train wreck of painful misguided celebrity self-sabotage splashes across the headlines.
Jon, it is not simply being a celebrity that creates a revered superstar, it is what a famous person does with the media attention at his or her command that delivers true adoration. Instead of continuing down this path of self-destruction here are a few suggestions to modify your behavior:
-- Figure out who you are and what you really want to do.
-- Speak and act in the direction of that dream.
-- Pay attention to your choices. Stop before you take any action that does not support who you are and what you want to do and reconsider.
Reach for a better perspective, make a worthier choice.
http://www.thewrap.com/blog-entry/gosselin-control-freak-or-out-control-...
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We have only just got that
September 17, 2009 - 9:43am — ScoopWe have only just got that show in the uk . im going to pat myslef on my own back as i had Jons number from the start . It was the act , in some ways the same as my freakoid narc .
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it's official
November 14, 2009 - 3:51am — Barbara (not verified)he's not just a Narc...
he's a SMOKIN' FLAMING NARC!!!
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/11/13/2009-11-13_in_lawsuit_again...
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Jon Gosselin - at it again!
December 15, 2009 - 10:46am — Barbara (not verified)even Gosselin doesn't listen to judges:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOSSELIN_LAWSUIT?SITE=FLPET&SE...
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and you think Online Dating is safe???
January 4, 2010 - 9:00pm — Barbara (not verified)http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/07/09/2009-07-09_jon_gosselin_is_...
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the love of his life... AGAIN
January 20, 2010 - 7:26pm — Barbara (not verified)http://wonderwall.msn.com/tv/pic-jon-gosselin-steps-out-with-new-25-year...
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That Dude...
January 21, 2010 - 12:48am — TexN (not verified)Is not all that! Geez, I wonder what kind of belly he was hiding behind that surf board. He'll be washed up and old news before long...He's already getting that "old news" look about him! I mean, come on, those 8 kids can only take him so far before they are all grown up and doing their own reality shows...lol!