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Is there a noticeable difference between a smart narc and a no-so-smart narc? Would it be in how they cover their tracks, not think about how they might get caught on Facebook, etc.? OR do all narcs (smart and dumb) not care whether they get caught because they're so self-absorbed to care? Just curious if there are levels of being a smart or dumb narc...
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narcfree
February 4, 2012 - 10:41am — UsedTHEY ONLY CARE TO COVER THEIR TRACKS IF THEY CARE ABOUT THE SUPPLY[FRIENDSHIP IN MY CASE]...I WAS WITH HIM 3 1/2 YEARS AND FOR 3 OF THOSE YEARS HE WAS IN A R/S THAT I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT.........BUT HIS OW KNEW ABOUT ME...ONCE SHE HAD TOLD ME I DROPPED HIM, BUT CAME TO THE REALISATION THAT HE KNEW SHE WOULD STAY WITH HIM REGAURDLESS.....
I ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD NOT....SO THATS WHY HE MADE SURE I NEVER FOUND OUT....BUT DIDNT CARE THAT SHE KNEW...
I DROPPED HIM ANYWAY...AS HE KNEW I WOULD...HENCE, THATS WAY HE COVERED HIS TRACKS.
Used - Where do they get the energy?
February 4, 2012 - 4:23pm — narcfreeinmsUsed - Since we're not wired that way, it amazes me how narcs have the energy to live so crazily. It takes everything I have just to tend to what's on my own plate in a normal way. You're better off - we all are. But what we go through to regain identity again is a challenge. It's liberating, but at the same time it takes a lot of strength to face the unknowns. Something is wrong with the other girl willing to stay with your ex narc.
That leads to this question - so we know narcs are drawn to the opposite of what they are. That's why we are members of this website! My question is - are narcs as attracted to other narcs? Or does it all depend on what they can get out of the person at that time?
Used, be glad your relationship with your narc didn't get any further. You were smart!!
narcfree
February 4, 2012 - 4:56pm — UsedI AM SORRY I DIDNT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ...
THE ENERGY THEY PUT IN STOPS THEM THINKING....THIS IS WHY[MY TAKE] WHEN THEY HAVE *GOT YOU WHERE THEY WANT YOU*...THEY HAVE TO GO HUNTING AGAIN...THEY WILL START THINKING, IF THE HAVENT GOT ANYTHING TO PLOT ABOUT....HAVENT YOU NOTICED HOW ONCE THEY HAVE GOT THEIR PREY...G/F /WIFE/OW... THEY STOP BOTHERING YOU AT ALL...THATS B/C THEY ARE BORED WITH YOU, BUT CONSERVING THEIR ENERGY FOR THE NEXT FIX...SUPPLY ...WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT....
narcfree
February 4, 2012 - 4:47pm — UsedThat leads to this question - so we know narcs are drawn to the opposite of what they are. That's why we are members of this website! My question is - are narcs as attracted to other narcs? Or does it all depend on what they can get out of the person at that time?
Used, be glad your relationship with your narc didn't get any further. You were smart!!
I dont think they are attracted to there opposite, I think they are attracted to anyone who DOES IT FOR THEM... it being no one thing...His ow reminded of a narc...telling me about their 3 year r/s, but it was finished by then...so I did think why tell me, and she said they had A DEEP FRIENDSHIP NOW....YEAH RIGHT!!!!!... she was still doing his washing, buying him clothes, the works.....I dont actually know if they are even still friends...I had seen her twice...the first time, she told me about their r/s...then she told narc she had seen me...he then came looking for me calling her all the LIARS under the sun...lol...and who I not believe her and stay friends with him...but he also told me more details...[bragging]
not dreamimg she would see me again and talk to me again...but she did but this time she was well up herself...so I told her what he had said concerning her...showed texts he had sent to me.....and she was gutted, but I said surely you knew he was useing you...she said no...he loves me, all men are attracted to me...I THOUGHT YOU WISH.... but this time she didnt just tell him she saw me again....she went absolutly nuts at him....she doesnt look at me now....I dropped him, it wasent only about her, I had enough of him, but I just kept going back every time he groveled....but once she told me that....IT WAS MY OUT....I only had to think of her smirking at me, and him=deny deny deny....I THOUGHT THEY DESERVE EACH OTHER...
I WAS ALWAYS SMARTER THAN HIM...HE THOUGHT HE WAS SUCH A PLAYER, BUT HE COULDNT SEE PASSED HIS OWN EGO, WHAT I WAS REALY LIKE...THEY ARE VERY PATHETIC....I WAS MARRIED TO A PLAYER...SO I KNEW HOW MANY BEANS MADE 5....HOW THE HELL SHE AND HE KEPT THAT QUIET....STILL AMAZES ME....SAYING THAT HE WOULD HAVE TOLD HER I AM UNSTABLE...CRAZY....THEY ARE NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE, THEY REALY ARE NOT...
Yes, PD's are like any demographic, you have
February 4, 2012 - 10:24am — goldieVarying degress of intelligence. Most of them would care if they got caught if you were their wife or longterm g/f. This all depends on how high the stakes are and what they stand to lose if you find out. If they will lose very little by your detection then they don't care. If they know you are dependent and needy for them then they also may not care. If they are dependent or needy of YOU on any level, then they will cover their tracks, smart or dumb. You may be providing them with social status, financial means, the use of your car cellphone, ect.. Or they may have a nice sexual thing going on with you that they don't want to lose. It is all about what THEY are getting out of the relationship and not about your needs and wants.
You are either good supply or bad supply. You either have something they want or you don't. And NONE of this is a reflection on YOU and your self worth not at all. It is all about they already have for supply. So if they already have a decent cash cow or sex buddy you not be that important to them of course until the get bored with what they have or they lose what they have or they just feel like playing with you that day.
If a guy DOES NOT care whether or not you are affected by their bad behaviors, then this is NOT the man for you on any level. Even friendship. Someone like this makes for a BAD friend as well.
Put yourself first and see how it feels to have him in your life and there is your answer.
God bless
Goldie
Clear Picture
February 4, 2012 - 11:47am — narcfreeinmsGoldie,
I'm going through a divorce. Was abandoned twice by this man. I was a very strong and independent woman(when we got married) who has a strong value system. In fact, my salary was more than his when we married. That didn't bother me. Then my health became very poor and was put on permenant medical leave 4 years after we got married. I was put on disability last year. He knew when we married that my health was not the best. Shortly after my health got so bad, he got a high-paying job working out of state. I didn't feel insecure or feel threatened. My dad traveled a lot as a geologist when I was growing up, so me and my siblings were used to a parent working away from home to put food on the table and to keep a roof over our heads. My mom handled the homefront, and they worked as a team going in the same direction.
No, I wasn't insecure about him being away from home. But then when he started draining our bank accounts (thousands) in a blink of an eye, and started doing it in a way that he couldn't be tracked. I knew that trouble was going to be a shadow in this marriage. He had nothing to show for whatever he spent the money on. Counseling sessions and putting spending boundaries helped a tiny bit. He was caught, wouldn't say what he used the money for, and straightened up a little.
Then a few months after that, I started getting that "gut feeling" again because he was going through the ice cold, distant, indifferent mode again. So I had to once again play detective (which I HATE doing because they're supposed to be trustworthy adults), and found that he opened a facebook acct and was contacting "old friends" - all women - that weren't married. He made time to chat with them all hours of the night, but never seemed to have the time to email me or call other than his "routine time" because he was "working his ass off on a dangerous job."
My mom and dad didn't raise an idiot. So I printed off EVERYTHING he did. Even the emails he sent me that were full of gushy mumbo jumbo - "Babe, I'm so glad God put you in my life. You are my world. I can't live without you." Makes my stomach churn now thinking about it!! Even after I took him back the first time after him begging to come back(he abandoned me while I was in the hospital), I kept documentation on everything that he did. Not exactly the way I wanted to spend my married life.
Warning to all people with poor health - narcs can't stand being around sick people or weak people. You can't offer them anything. They can't feed on you.
I didn't even want to call and tell him that I was being admitted for a blood clot, because I knew deep down he'd either act cold, or he'd play the saint and martyr to the outside world for rushing to my side, and then treat me with so little respect and dignity.
When my doctor told me to call my family in, I told her that my husband was working out of town and that I would be fine and had other family and friends. She said, "You need to call your family in on this one. I'm serious. Your condition is serious. If that clot gets loose, it could go to your heart or lungs. Please call your family in." I dreaded the call. I was very casual about the clot. He said he was on his way home. Half the time, I didn't tell him about my flares or worsening condition. One of my friends found out about my condition, and called my husband. He told her he was heading to the hospital and promised her he'd stay with me until I was out of trouble.
He stayed a couple of hours and said he needed to get home and feed the animals. All he had to do was call my brother to feed the animals. My friend said he called her after he left the hospital and she wanted to know where he was. He told her I insisted him going home to feed the animals and that I was on medicine to keep me resting. So there was nothing he could do for me. My friend cried as she told me this. She said, "That SOB PROMISED me he'd stay with you. How could he be so cold. You could have died, and you were alone!" I told her I wasn't alone. I had God with me. I felt the presence of my deceased parents. I felt the prayers of my friends and family. I wasn't alone.
Narcs don't care how sick you are or how close to death you are. The day after I was released from the hospital from having a GIANT blood clot in my jugular, my narc wanted to have sex. I still had the blood clot after being pumped up with blood thinners, steroids, etc. I was still so sick. Had almost died. He didn't care. He said he "missed" me. He wanted to have sex, and he was determined to get what he wanted. I put my own health at risk to pacify the narc. How demeaning is that? He probably would have gotten off, if I'd thrown the clot and died while he was having his way. I broke down and told my friend about it. She wanted to torture him. I was ashamed of my being too weak to stand up for myself.
He came in right before Christmas and declred divorce and left with no reason.
I feel free. I was his source and he now I'm not. Thank goodness!
You're right about them feeding on sources.