What do they "feel" when we go No Contact, the Abuse Cycle, Silent Treatment, and will he change if I go NC?

goldie's picture

They certainly don't wither in pain like we do.

They feel fear, they may not find someone else to put up with their sorry ass and they contact us initially due to fear of abandonment. Once the dust settles and they regroup, because they feel nothing for us aside from their own contempt and fear of being alone, they begin to contemplate their next move.

The next thing they feel is rage. They are sweet with the hoovering during the abandonment stage and hostile towards you when they go into their preferred emotion which is anger. They prefer the rage because they feel in control while angry, they avoid fear at all cost. They will have sex with a tree stump to avoid the fear of being alone. Drugs, alcohol, porno, OW, whatever it takes to keep the fear at bay. They don't do intimacy and are afraid of their fear so they resort to "filler" behaviors to keep themselves feeling in control.

They analyze and assess whether or not you are worth additional effort, meaning are you even still good supply. You may be their cash cow, deviant sex buddy, place to live, ect... If none of those factors apply, they simply move on from you in their head and begin to think about WHO IS better at providing for them what they need and want.

They will get out their cell or go online and begin to contact either old supply who still has some potential or begin to seek out and preen new supply to fill your shoes. They do this automatically with absolutely NO THOUGHT of you and what they did to you or your feelings. They don't care how you are doing, and you will not hear from them at this point unless they want something from you.

This is WHY you see the cycles with the hoovering. You are being hoovered "in between" their efforts to secure other supply. If they hit the jackpot and OW takes them in, you don't hear from them. If OW becomes shitty supply for any reason, you hear from them. She is unavailable one night or she is getting demanding or questioning their behaviors.

Once they have secured new supply for ALL their needs you do not hear from them.

The problem for them lie's in the fact that we are all human and NOONE can be excellent supply 24/7, although I tired, lol. When other supply fails them for any reason, you get a hoover.

As their mask begins to fall we become suspicious and we ask questions not previously asked, we try to set boundaries because we now sense that something is off. We begin to feel uncomfortable with their behaviors and want answers.

THEY can immediately sense that we are on to them, so they begin the business of slowly tearing us down and placing the blame on us.

All of this is a smokescreen specifically designed to keep us off the track of their true nature.To create a cognitive dissonance in us where we begin to grow confused and vaguely uneasy with what they are telling us. Their ONLY thought is to have decent supply and they know from years of experience, THE ONLY way to keep you as decent supply is to get you off THEIR back and for you to begin to question YOUR actions and what YOU are doing wrong. They mirror back to you their defects of character. This way they can keep you off the track with what is wrong with THEM. Their NEW actions, create fear, doubt, and insecurity in you.

They tell you if you do not STOP this line of questioning and be GOOD, they will abandon YOU. They may outright say this or you may see it in their actions. ST, they go away for a few days, they don't call, they blow you off in either subtle ways or overt ways. All designed to create fear in you and to TRAIN you to BACK OFF and let them be. Narc speak: "I will do what I want when I want and no bitch is going to tell me what to do."

Basically this is the beginning of the abuse training for the abuse cycle. They act in unacceptable ways, you react and question, they deflect the issue back on to you, and create fear in you and place the blame on you.

At his point your head begins to spin. You are trying desperately to sort out WHAT IS going on. I thought this person loved me and wanted to be with me, that's what they have been telling me all along and they were so sweet.

WHO IS this new person? Why is he so angry with me? Why is he acting differently, He is acting like he doesn't like me anymore and is going to leave me. What did I do wrong. Why is he acting so strangely. I NEED ANSWERS!!!

What can I do to FIX THIS? Was it me? Have I done something to create this change? Maybe I should give in more to his wants and desires. Maybe I am not understanding him enough or trying hard enough.

He tells you flat out, stop with your bitching. I love you, I did nothing wrong. Or, I did it because of you and will never do it again, the message is still basically that, YOU are the problem. You make me this way.

You either comply with his request and shut up and try to do better or you tell him to GET OUT or he leaves.

During the separation period if even for a day or two. You miss him, you miss that initial person, you feel in love with and you don't want this to end.

He comes back and you "talk it out" he agree's to do better and you agree to do better.

He is delighted, he now has YOU off his back AND you are agreeing to more of his unreasonable demands. He is now getting that loan you were reluctant to give him AND you now have agreed to be more OPEN MINDED SEXUALLY. He is in the process of gaining complete control over your mind and your body.

HE now is getting even more out of you AND you have just shown him that by treating you badly he gets MORE not LESS.

It's a beautiful day in Narcville.

He does not change at all, none of HIS promises come true and now you are giving more than ever and a bit of your soul has been turned over to the devil because you have now agreed to things which make you uncomfortable with yourself.

This is the way the game is played and this is how and when the groundwork for the future patterns of the relationship are established. He is laying the track, building the foundation, conditioning you for future abuse, and compliance.

Eventually when he asks for money and sexual deviation, and you turn a blind eye to the OW you know he has. You now do and accept it because you fear losing him again and he knows this and PLAYS ON IT. You are trying to keep the PEACE.

YOU HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO COMPLY

You have now become GREAT supply in his eyes. Easy to control, easy to manipulate, easy to blame, easy to make you cry, you become depressed, you shut up. Whatever it takes to get YOU off his back is fine with him. This way he can do as he pleases with no interference from you.

The sun is shinning in Narcville.

You are spinning like a top most every day now. You don't know which end is up. You do know, if you call him on his shit he is going to give you even less because by now, he has stopped pretending to do things your way, his true self has emerged and you are having extreme difficulty absorbing what is going on and HOW you can change this and get it back to the way it was in the beginning.

Now, he has you where he wants you. You are insecure, willing to accept blame, trying harder to please him and he is in full control and his true colors are flying high. He rarely pretends to respect or care about you at this point.

You pull yourself together and you demand answers and change. He throws you a bone, a small concession and YOU think you are making progress, yet nothing changes.

The relationship never goes back to where it was in the beginning and becomes a roller coaster where you are looking for love and he is looking for control. He will say most anything at this point to keep you where he wants you. If the phony b.s. act works with you, then this is what you get. If degrading you and devaluing you, is what pushes your buttons, then that is what you get. At this point it is ALL about control and you get what he has conditioned you to accepts.

NOT a pretty place for you to be. So you begin to grow angry and retaliate, you grow silent and become ill, or you try even harder. We react the way we are already conditioned to react to stress from our prior life experience. This is when many "victims" take up drinking, drugs, food addiction, self injurious behaviors, go into a deep depression, try harder, it's a mixed bag and NONE of it is good for you, these are all avoidance techniques which WE use to avoid WAKING UP and getting away from our perpetrator. Some just plain give up and and when that happens they either go in for the kill to completely destroy you or they leave you because, NOW you are such a mess, which they created and don't care, that they find YOU to be lousy supply and they leave until you pull yourself together, without their help thank you, and when you are sitting pretty again they come back to soak you dry some more, IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO DO SO.

They DO NOT come back because they LOVE you; they come back to abuse you some more and TAKE from you. They may ACT differently for a short spell to suck you back in, yet, they ALWAYS revert back to their old behaviors and often worse because now they see you as a sucker, an easy mark, someone to use who will comply. NOTHING to do with LOVE here, not on this abuse buffet.

This can go on for years and some never make it off the ride. Sometimes they leave us and this triggers us to look at the cycle, other times the victim becomes ill and the N does not care and this triggers a wake up call. You desperately NEED a WAKE UP call at this point.

Sometimes the WAKE UP call is finding this site and we hope it is for you.

Regardless to what gets you here and to the point of recovery, you are here and the first Step is to Understand what was REALLY going on.

Not their version; not your fantasy version. The TRUTH of who they are and HOW they manipulated us into taking the blame, going against our value system, and putting up with unacceptable behaviors, all in the name of Love and the Fear of losing love.

They know you want LOVE and this is what they PREY on, that basic need in all of us to give love and to feel loved. They prey on your goodness, your sense of righteousness, and your desire to be good and do for others. WE empaths are sitting ducks for Narcissists, psychopaths, and predators. They are counting on us to act and react EXACTLY as we do. WE are their ideal prey.

So basically it is your very goodness which is ultimately destroying you and they do NOT CARE, it amuses them. And they most assuredly KNOW EXACTLY what they are doing the ENTIRE TIME. This was NO accident; you were targeted by a conman manipulator who is expert at what he does and knows WHO will play this game and WHO will not.

One of the most difficult aspects of these relationships with the disordered, is for US to fully see and fully comprehend, and fully accept that they are not capable of love, you were played by a professional manipulator, and it was all designed by them to get THEIR needs met. Yours were never important to them. You were simply a vehicle for them to use in order to thrive.

This was not your fault. You did not cause or create this. They do not change and the only solutions and chance at freedom from this bondage, is to get out and stay out.

The goal is to reclaim yourself and disengage from the codependency created by them and ACCEPTED by you, which keeps the illusion alive.

Trying to reason with them does not work because you are coming from two entirely different places.

They are coming from a place of self fulfillment, con, and self gratification and using you as a host; supply.

You are coming from a place of love, working on the relationship, and making things better.

These two ships are NEVER EVER going to meet in the night. It is not going to happen. One ship is heading for heaven and the other one is heading straight to hell.

One wants a good life together and the other one wants a life for himself, with people as his puppets and pawns.

Understanding it and eventual acceptance for what it is and what it is not, is KEY.

TOGETHER we can accomplish what we cannot accomplish alone.

God bless,
Goldie

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Comments

Char12's picture

He came back and used me for sex.

I'm new here and everything just seems to be so accurate yet i can't imagine somebody can be like this.

My ex was abusive in many of the subtle ways listed on this site and i didn't see it, thought it was my fault and by the end of it was going through a debilitating depression without knowing how i got there and without an ounce sympathy from him. The relationship ended.

A year later he comes back into my life, is exactly how he was when we first met, saying he'd missed me and cuddling up.. he even brought me a bracelet. I stupidly thought he's changed and had sex with him that night. I told him i wanted more than sex, he said he did too but gradually became indifferent like he used to be and sending me mixed messages. Months later when nothing improves and i can't take the glimpses of hope he keeps giving me.. i confront him and he says he doesn't want a relationship. I'm confused, feel used and stupid for giving myself away and end it over a heart felt email. He didn't bother replying. He still hasn't replied and moved on like nothing happened. I feel terrible and so naive.

Froglegs's picture

Yep. This is how it all went

Yep. This is how it all went down each and every time. Never again! Thank you for posting this. It's excellent!

b-switched's picture

Thank You

I really needed to read this this morning - a reality check.
He hasnt contacted me for 2mths now ( my request ) but I was sure he would - and this has dis-armed me. It is not his usual ploy , to remain silent and I am fearful he HAS let go of me ( the controlling part of me wants him to want me - still.......)
He is with OW , and I have hoped and prayed his silence means things are NOT going well for him and her.
Your post made me realise the truth is she is doing what I did, making the same mistakes- selling her soul to the devil, rolling over for him......complying every way she can....
Of course he's not going to contact me while his new supply is so obliging.

Thank you so much for the insight and reality check. You covered a lot of questions and answers...I was begining to feel the Fear of losing him again instead of being grateful.

pumpkinpie's picture

Step by step...

...that's exactly how it happened. I wish I had caught on earlier but I can't change the past. Now I know better and I'm thankful for that.

I saw him at work the other day and he asks me "how are you doing?". Before I could give even say the obligatory "I'm fine", he asks "do you miss me?". I walked away. Later I get a text updating me on his part of the work on our mutual client and at the end it says "by the way, you suck!!". Apparently I am lousy supply, lol.

BackonTrack's picture

Exactly!

Thanks for this post. This describes the patterns I've seen with my N completely. Anytime I question something he does, even if I do it in a calm, non-attacking way, he has gotten extremely angry and blames me. It's been the same thing every time. I just want to ask a question or to have an open discussion about something and BOOM! Instead of communicating he just goes off on me. He makes it sound like it's all me and I'm just crazy and have emotional problems. He would say things like, "If you have a problem with that, I hope you have a great life." At that point I would usually cry and apologize and say I will do better, whether it was giving more space, being more understanding, etc. I would tell him how much he meant to me and he'd say okay and then we'd be back in the cycle, with me trying to "behave" (being okay with being ignored, doing sexual things I wouldn't normally do, not expecting calls from him or to talk about anything in my life, but instead just fun and praising him).

I read this before but it was a good reminder. This time I will not go back apologizing and telling him what he means to me. He just won't hear from me again.

BackonTrack's picture

Exactly!

Thanks for this post. This describes the patterns I've seen with my N completely. Anytime I question something he does, even if I do it in a calm, non-attacking way, he has gotten extremely angry and blames me. It's been the same thing every time. I just want to ask a question or to have an open discussion about something and BOOM! Instead of communicating he just goes off on me. He makes it sound like it's all me and I'm just crazy and have emotional problems. He would say things like, "If you have a problem with that, I hope you have a great life." At that point I would usually cry and apologize and say I will do better, whether it was giving more space, being more understanding, etc. I would tell him how much he meant to me and he'd say okay and then we'd be back in the cycle, with me trying to "behave" (being okay with being ignored, doing sexual things I wouldn't normally do, not expecting calls from him or to talk about anything in my life, but instead just fun and praising him).

I read this before but it was a good reminder. This time I will not go back apologizing and telling him what he means to me. He just won't hear from me again.

TruthbeginsToday's picture

This is truly inspired writing... Goldie nailed the Dark Game

This is IT...The DARK GAME of the N.

This is an excellent description of How the N uses and destroys others for their own selfish purposes.

I lived through it and still cringe when I read it. It's unbelievable until you've been through it.

What Goldie wrote here is the so dead on...every word.

VERY well written!
Thank you!

Truth

brokenacc's picture

Wow

Wow! Goldie you knocked it out of the park with this one!!

needing2know's picture

Goldie

I love you guys so much! When you get yourself out of hell and the fog clears I mean truly clears, everything you wrote makes perfect sense and you GET IT ALL! I cannot even begin to thank you and the Mods and Lisa for this site , I am now 17 months out and my life is great! I have wonderful man in my life , my kids are happy and I am healthy!I now know what real love is! I will never go back to hell , I know all the signs and games these sickos play, I can for the first time in my life see everything clear! As much as I hated being here for the reasons we are all here, I am thankful though that it did happen, because even though through out my life I had bad relationships, this last one was the worst, but I learned from it , if I had not went through it I would not have found you all, I would not have learned it wasn't me and I wasn't crazy, I no longer bust my ass trying to make a man happy, he can take me as I am or he can watch me as I go!I will never let anyone try to change me again!
I learned a lot here, I did everything I was asked to do, I did the steps, I vented, I cried the toxins out,I got mad , I got so damn angry ,I asked so many questions no matter how stupid I thought they were , but I took that anger and it made me hell bent on not getting revenge on him,Keeping NC, but making myself better! I did not waste my time and energy on him , I had to fight for my life and I did it!! I am a SURVIVOR not a VICTIM any more! God bless you all , You are amazing people!

tresor2's picture

This is an Excellent Post

Great job, Goldie. At one point, ExN said to me, "If you're good, you'll get more of this" meaning he'll take me out to a nice restaurant again; big f'n deal. At the time, I didn't get what he meant and I told him, "I am good." He sounded just like a pimp.

In hindsight, I see that his mask was off when this happened and I was calling him on his BS and exposing him as a narcissist. His behavior was right in line with the progression from idealization to "destroy the target." The worse his abuse and neglect became, the more reactionary and upset I became. I fell right into his trap.

lali876's picture

GOD BLESS U GOLDIE!! THANK UU SO MUCH!

thanks for sharing these wise words...OMG..i cant believe i'm still banging my head over all of this bs i went thru and still feel GUILT!!
Thank you, so much..i will have to read it has many times as necessary until my brain retains this: IT WAS NOT MY FAULT! I DID NOT IMAGINE THINGS...IM NOT CRAZY...AND YES..the one that hurts the most and the most difficult to digest..HE DIDNT LOVED ME!
I guess i still have a road ahead to recovery...but this is a HUGE leap for me! thank U Goldie! XXooXxx

Healingslowly_but getting there's picture

This describes EXACTLY what

This describes EXACTLY what happened to me Goldie. Thank you for making me see again that none of this was my fault .
Lots of love xxx

goldie's picture

Healing Slowly; PD's love to play the Blame Game

Keeps you down and questioning yourself and the focus off the PD's and their problems, issues, and disorder. They are also backstabber. They make it clear to whoever will listen that the crazy on is their partner; not them.

God bless,
Goldie

drjoyberke's picture

Goldie's blog

This was a wonderful read.....Sometimes, because of my profession (psychologist) and the fact that I've written a book on this subject, I forget that I am still in recovery myself. I have some very limited contact with my ex because we own a house together that I live in. Even knowing what he is and what he wants, I can still feel myself being hooked back into him. I look forward to the day that my emotions are totally in sync with my intellect but until that time I will always force myself to limit whatever conversations we have to have to the subject of the house and never my personal life.....and especially not his. Thanks for the 'grounding'.

KSam80's picture

Brilliant !

This is BRILLIANT absolutely BRILLIANT ! you have given me every answer I have asked for and more.

I wasn't going crazy ! It wasn't me !

With all my heart.... THANK YOU !

bb12's picture

Silence Suddenly Fine By Me

That is a really well constructed essay Goldie. Thank you so much.

My ex Narc went silent on me after I pushed for a thank you when I took him to a play last December and introduced him to Geoffrey Rush. Of all of the people I took to the play that night, and whom I introduced to the cast, everyone texted me or called to thank me but him.

Upon taking him to task he just said "I gotta go" and I have never heard from him since. As if 2 years meant nothing. I guess subconsciously I had called time on the push pull games and brought the whole thing to a head. But it has been a gut wrenching 5 months of silence and it hurts like hell as you battle with shame, guilt, and wonder if I hadn't been too extreme.

But on realising this is an illness, and with the help of this site, I am happy I pushed him. And happier still for the No Contact because it has moved me on. I feel the FOG lifting and can see how toxic the entire 2 years was, as he blamed me for making him scream at me etc.

I am not over it yet, because it churned up co-dependent realisations in me. But I am grateful for all of that now and how awake I feel as I finally begin to look forward instead of back.

I am sure I will come to appreciate his cruel silent treatment fot the expediting of my recovery...and for the cessation of my recycling of this awful relationship.

thanks again

BB12

oceangirl's picture

Now I truly understand Hoovering

Goldie,
After reading this, which is excellent, now I truly understand hoovering. I always knew that when he sent lame txts, emails, etc., that he was just trying to get me to respond. However, I had never applied it to the fact that he wasn't getting his supply from the other side. It hones the fact even more. It's those little things that make you think "oh! that's it!". Thank you!

serenity1's picture

I had to laugh, Not at you but the narcs

Goldie I just loved this article, You made me laugh in a few things that you said, Not that it is funny, But how true it is sometimes you have to laugh about it, You had mentioned how the narcs, players talk about woman as bitchs, I have seen that myself and I have seen other woman besides myself viewed as that, I see it all the time men that are not working and are living off of a woman, And the woman is so blinded to what is going on, I use to be one of these woman and I am still healing after almost 3 years, I really loved this article and I am going to have to read it almost on a daily basis seriously, That is how good it is, And to the point, You could have not said it any better then you did, My Motto in life is I would rather be single the rest of my life then to settle for second best and I mean that, I have been used and abused for so many years, That I wont SETTLE NEVER AGAIN, I have alot more healing to do yes, But I will never go back to where I came from, Thank you so much for what you wrote, I absolutly loved it, xx

Clear eyes's picture

Goldie

Dear God, you have described perfectly the last 9 years of my life with the narc. It's almost scary. It really is textbook behavior from them, isn't it. I guess in a way that's good, because we now have the tools to survive these horrible, abusive people.
Thanks for reinforcing for me why NC is a great thing!

sharlenemorgan's picture

Got sucked in again

I ran into mine yesterday and we talked. He did admit to being a Narc. I have been spinning since and I think got it under control again. I unblocked his # and sent a sexy text. Made me crazy waiting for a reply. Blocked the # again and have been on this site since.Thank GOD I found this site. I am just amazed at all the women! Wish me luck I stay strong.

uncomfortablynumb's picture

Ignoring

my ex N used that strategy to drive me nuts...ignoring my messages, while I, assuming he's going to respond like a normal human, sit there feeling crappy about the rejection he is subjecting me to and wanting him to say something SO BAD so my attempt to contact can be validated by this piece of shit. NO MORE.

I am glad you and I both found this site there is nothing like knowing whoever reads what you write will be able to relateand being able to relate to others' posts... and knowing i'm not one of those crazy women he has talked about because he is the one with the problem...i hope it drives him crazy to know or think he isn't driving me crazy...ceasing to care about it comes with time.

sharlenemorgan's picture

Got sucked in again

I ran into mine yesterday and we talked. He did admit to being a Narc. I have been spinning since and I think got it under control again. I unblocked his # and sent a sexy text. Made me crazy waiting for a reply. Blocked the # again and have been on this site since.Thank GOD I found this site. I am just amazed at all the women! Wish me luck I stay strong.

fjk's picture

Trying to draw me in

I've left my narc, we've been to court, the kids are with me 65% of the time. He has a new woman but continually tries to draw me in, to react to insults, respond to his demands. I have learned only to respond to what is necessary for the children. I have found the best response is none and he does not like it. He's always plotting the next move, I'm being punished for leaving him, even though he left with the children. I got them back and with the court system they have remained with me. He belie es they are better off without me, that he is all they need. With the support of my family close friends and counseling I am a able to move on, I still have my days of feeling insecure, and that he will just keep going on, that I'm under constant attack, but I have to remind myself, my power now is in my ability of NOT having to respond to his crap. I choose not to be drawn in. That makes me feel in control of my own life!

lavendar19's picture

Wow that was so well-written

Wow that was so well-written and accurate...absolutely loved reading it, my favorite part: "you make me this way". Probably heard that one once a day!
Goldie you're amazing (and so are all you other ladies on this forum) xx

goldie's picture

Hi Lavendar

Welcome to the site and glad this resonated with you. Understanding it is a HUGE part of recovery. Once we realize where they are coming from, everything begins to make sense. WHY we felt awful in their presense so much of the time becomes evident.

Keep reading and posting.

God bless,
Goldie

Diane's picture

I totally need this...

Thank you for this blog, I totally need to read it right when I did! I filed a ex parte and his previous brainwashing started making me feel guilt at the thought of him being served (its the second time and he cried last time and said he was sooo scared blah blah blah) I know that this is best and it is still confusing how he could just toss me away. I know now after reading on this site that he never cared. I also know that getting out my feelings is the best way to work through my pain and anger, but unless you are talking to people who have experienced the tactics of a narc behind closed doors, no one else really gets it. My sister just keeps saying "get over it and move on...good riddance...etc". This is not helping. Thanks to all who aren't afraid to put their stories out there to help others! I would have gone crazy and still be with him (miserable) if I didn't read your Stories of surviving.

The cycle of abuse "training" realization made me sick. It's so true they keep taking and screwing you just a teeny bit more every chance they get just to see if you'll take it. He is out for good and I plan on NC as much as possible since we have a daughter together. There is no Hoover maneuver strong enough to work on me this time.

Thank you all again!

Diane.

goldie's picture

Thank you Diane

Yes, the realization of the "training" is pathetic. I have heard many of them admit they are doing this. It is in the players handbook. Many men view women as their "bitches" and the only way to get us to comply if for them to PRETEND to be exactly what they want in the beginning and then they begin the "training" phase and actually the nice guy stuff IS part of the training, it is how they suck you in and get you to "fall in love" with them and then the rollercoaster stuff is to keep you confused and off guard to their true motives. Push pull, love hate, threat of abandonment, OW, ect....

I actually heard two men discussing this in the supermarket yesterday, AFTER, I had already written this blog. One was complaining to the other about his relationship woes. The other one said, "you have to TRAIN THE BITCH, I have been telling you this. Once you have her properly TRAINED, you will no longer have these problems. I have Carrie trained already and she is just like I want her and I don't have to deal with this shit you are talking about. Do it now, TRAIN that BITCH."

I tried following them because I wanted to hear more. This is NOT the first time I have been privy to these types of conversations. Another time, my X left his face book open and and someone was trying to chat with him. I went on and the friend told me, thinking it was HIM, where he could find "insecure bitches" who would give you what you wanted relatively soon. This is just a sample to many conversations I have heard, been told about by OW, OM, AND right from them. Some of them will tell you the truth if they are not dating YOU.

So the notion that they do NOT KNOW what they are doing is frankly ridiculous. We are brainwashed by them and once we smarten up and see them for their fake selves, we are on the way HOME to ourselves and they are on the way OUT.

We KNOW anyway, we can feel it and sense it, we just can't see it in black and white and it is almost too much too believe that the one who claimed to love us so much was nothing more than a narcissistic, lying, cheating, player. This notion does not fit with their false persona so we question ourselves as to what we are feeling and grow confused.

Trust your instincts.

This IS really happening and your ARE being played. If you feel it, think it, sense it, hear about it from others; them it is happening.

You keep on doing what you are doing Diane. You will make it out this time. Have faith in YOU and the courage to stand by YOUR convictions.

Keep reading and keep posting and let us know how this works out for you.

God bless,
Goldie

insectt's picture

I am so glad you are here to

I am so glad you are here to articulate everything so well.

goldie's picture

Thank you insectt

Glad you are here to begin to recover from this devasting experience. Keep reading and posting and let me know if I can be of any help to you.

God bless,
Goldie

abreva's picture

Spot ON

This post is so right on.
Thank GOD for you people.

goldie's picture

You are welcome abreva

God bless, you too.

Goldie

florence's picture

Wise Words and True

I have had the auld hoover manouvere and yes, it does bring back a wave of...something. hesitate to use the word nostalgia, because that suggests pleasantness. It is conditioning, like Pavlov's bloody dogs. It really has messed the last two days up for me, dredging up all the shite - but there is now way I would respond to his bs. Unbelievably, the 'macguffin' in this case, is my set of keys which he just 'has ' to return. How bloody thoughtful. well he can stick up up his arse and I'm sure it ill give him a thrill the sick little shite. What really makes me puke, is the "X" at the end of the messages, and the sorrowful, downtroddden tone. As if. It's only because the other sources of supply are otherwise engaged or are on to him.
Uggghhh. NC NC NC! God Bless BT and 'Choose to Refuse'. Flo xx

goldie's picture

LOve it Florence; Choose to Refuse

Yes, the contact us when OS is low OR they want or need something. It becomes evident once YOUR veil of denial is lifted. I did not make the connection until I stepped away and looked with new eyes.

One day he called me 8 times from work, ??? because he loved me? NO because he wanted something. Otherwise If I NEEDED anything, he would say he would not call me because he was at work.

Until I wised up, I could NOT SEE what was really going on; once I could it was like, WOW he was conning me the entire time. This helped with the cognative dissonance, helped me to say NO, AND helped me to "fall OUT of love" with him.

It becomes difficult to LOVE someone who is FAKE once you fully realize that they are fake.

See how the game is played?

It's all about him.

God bless,
Goldie

Ima Survivor's picture

Waking up from the nightmare

I'm so glad I found this site! I always could sense something was very wrong but was always made to feel like I was the crazy one. Discovering that my ex is a Narcissist was one of the more frightening things I have done but at the same time one of the most healing things I have done. Thanks for sharing all this great information. It is very helpful and the support is so amazing. Looking forward to happy dreams from now on!

goldie's picture

Ima Survivor

Great news, may yoiur dreams come true in recovery. Thank you for sharing and welcome to the site.

God bless,
Goldie

sexy72's picture

Exactly!

Exactly! I lived this cycle over and over again! I put up with behavior I knew was NOT acceptable and I fell into the different ruts you mentioned! looking back I can now put myself into the categories you mentioned that NARCS put us into! I am educated now, Thank God!!! Thank You Goldie for all your wisdom and the reminders that we all need to see and read over and over again and again to stay up on what we need to look for in relationships and what to avoid! So much great information that is right on, so right on that I could have wrote it when dealing with my ex narc! This "Supply" is not so naive anymore thanks to this website!!! I truly can say this website and the people on here have saved my sanity and have helped me more than you will EVER know!!!! You are all Angel's on Earth and you will all find happiness....I just know it!!!! :)

goldie's picture

Yes it is bittersweet, to see the truth

This is experience "grows us" all up real quickly. As we grow wiser and stronger in recovery we often to feel like we are saying good by to that naive "little girl" who saw the world through rose colored glasses and wanted to still believe in fairy tale's and love ever after.

It is bittersweet yet empowering all at the same time.

The best to you in your recovery.

God bless,
Goldie

patricia barely surviving's picture

Wow. Brutally accurate.

Wow. Brutally accurate.

goldie's picture

Patricia

Yes, Understanding it is essential to our recovery and as difficult as it can be for us to take off the rose colored glasses, it is the only way to begin to detach from their deception.

God bless,
Goldie

ruby01's picture

Goldie,

You are truly something special!

Thank you for all the great information and advice!

xoxo,
Ruby

goldie's picture

Thank you Ruby

I appreciate your kind words. The truth will set us free.

God bless,
Goldie

ThisIsTheEnd's picture

TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH. But it

TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH.

But it hurts. I feel like a little part of my naive self died the day I met my narc. I just could never believe that something so wrong and so evil could exist! But Goldie, thanks to you I now know that it does, and like all of the rest of us, I must accept it and move on.

I'm bookmarking this post and returning to it whenever I need to remember the truth.

Thank you.

TITE

goldie's picture

You are welcome, Thisistheend

Acceptance is key, that is the truth in recovery from anything or anyone. You're getting there. Keep posting and reading.

God bless,
Goldie

Jar of hearts's picture

Rubber Mallet

Moments all the way through that but a great post , seeing it in black and white still hits and hurts but it's so very true ... Wish I'd found this site when it was all happening and at it's worst it would of certainly saved me a lot of heartache but I'm here now and thanks to you and everyone here I understand my exN and I'm now armed when have to deal with him over our child.

ThankYou to you and everyone will definately keep reading this!

Xx

goldie's picture

Hi Jarofhearts

We get here when we do. God's time. Glad we can help you to stay armed and protected. Dealing with children together can be a challenge. Post about it if you need more support on this subject. Many on here have children with the narcs. I did with my first N.

God bless,
Goldie

Alissa's picture

I don't know what to say...

I don't know what to say... but this is such a good blog and it's totally what happened here. Thank you so much Goldie. I am going to read, reread and reread it over and over again xxx

goldie's picture

Many of them are similar in their manipulative methods

Amazing, isn't it. Once we get it we do not ever need to be sucked into their vortex again.

God bless,
Goldie

Lookonthesunnyside's picture

Wow really great post goldie.

Wow really great post goldie. Hurt a little to read even at this point in my recovery because it is just so true. Everything you have said and the process they use which you have laid out. Its sickening really but the only way to feel better about this is to identify it.

Thanks for the post! xo

goldie's picture

Yes, uncovering them is KEY

They cannot hide in the light; the light is their biggest fear. Our light and our truth. They dwell in lie's and darkness; a dark cloud if you will.

Here's to exposing them for who and what they are.

God bless,
Goldie

wsh's picture

Powerful & gut-wrenchingly accurate!

God Bless you Goldie and all the Mods & Lisa too. You are all truly Heaven Sent Angels.