They Live Among us; the Betrayal From the One You Loved

goldie's picture

In Response the question as to how can they get away with this and why do people not see what they have done to us? http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2012/04/11/putting-out-there

Loving those with a severe Personality Disorder.

You are describing the human condition right now for MOST OF US.

The exploration for more defined definitions and criteria for these disorders is basically a NEW SCIENCE in the world of Psychology. Personality Disorders. EVEN the DSM is confused about all of this and have frequently changed the diagnoisis criteria and labeling. These creatures are popping up like weeds and locusts, so rapidly in the 21st century that EVEN the experts, are struggling to keep up with WHO and WHAT they are. Back in the 50's when my father began his reign of terror, there was no label for what he was. Nor were there many laws to protect my mother and his children from his abuse.

Tracy thurman changed all that and she was nearly beaten to death to do this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington

Sure we knew that such evil existed, we thought of them as Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Joran van der Sloot, and perhaps some "crazy kid" who lived down the street from you and was in the court
report in the local newspaper every month or so.

NOW more often than not, they live among us. They are our ministers, our teachers, our lawyers, judges, coworkers, friends, neighbors, and YES our lovers. They are our very own, "Sleeping with the Enemy." http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-With-Enemy-Nancy-Price/dp/0671629670

Society has simply, NOT caught up with them YET and who they are and what they do and the horrific havoc they are creating today in everyday lives.

Many people just don't GET IT yet. They blame these behaviors on bad parenting, low self esteem, drugs, alcohol, the media, and YES US, they STILL blame US when a perpertrator comes along and nearly destroys our lives.

There are STILL those who blame the victim. Maybe you bitched too much, it was your fault you stepped out of your marriage. you SHOULD have left. Afterall, you stayed, so WHO do you really have to blame. IT was your choice. IT takes two to tango. You made your bed; now lie in it. The list goes on and on and we have heard it all.

This is like addiction was back in the 40's and 50's. They used to lock them up in mental institutions or live in denial, until public awareness was made available through Alcoholics Anonymous in the Saturday Evening Post. http://alcoholism.about.com/library/blmitch18.htm

NOW people get it, they sure as heck did NOT get it back then.

We ARE the pioneers who have suffered from these PD's and we are the one's who will bring about Public Awareness.

People are not going to GET THIS or understand this until it happens to THEM. Once they get a taste of these perps true colors and it is happening to THEM, then it is an entirely different story.

This is when we often hear, I am so sorry, Bgirl, I had NO IDEA what you were going though, I am sorry I was not better support to you.

It's the same thing with any type of pain. Until you have experienced the loss of a child or the death of our Mother; you have no clue. Until you have experienced intense back pain, because you cannot SEE the pain with the eyes, you have no clues.

Until your life, heart, soul, and finances have been compromised by a PD; you have no clue.

We cannot blame these people because they don't understand a relatively new human condition, the condition is not new, however, the vast number of them IS in fact relatively new.

We all on here KNOW how deeply it hurts to go through this and then NOT to be believed OR to have our experience minimized is almost unbearable.

The police often do not take it seriously because many in law enforcement are N's themselves. The N's are such pathological liars that they do often fool therapists, clergy, and even in some case, our family and friends are asking US what we did to provoke this behavior AND of course the N's are telling people that we are nuts.

My X is a severe drug addict, pathological liar, theif, cheat, and his family and boss, to this day think that he is sober and it was ALL my fault. Even when he steals from them, he creates a scapegoat so someone else gets blamed. This happy horseshit can only fly for so long and I know this. His day will come and it will have nothing to do with anything I did. He will cook his own goose.

This is difficult to go through to begin with and then to deal with negative public opionion it is almost the final nail in the coffin.

My X tried to DESTROY my life. The devastation we just about unbearable. Goldie's Story http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2010/06/21/goldies-story

And THEN to have him tell everyone that I was the one. He actually told people that I was insane, a drug addict, and that I made the entire story up. I don't do drugs, lol and my diagnosis is PTSD which does not make me crazy by any stretch. I have a mild form of it. How would they know??? They did not see my depleted bank account. They did not see all the holes and destruction in my house, They did not see the bruises on my body. Even the police never asked me to disrobe. They just wrote in the report: No visible bruises. They did not even ask to see my arms or my legs and the one time he hit my face, I did not leave the house for 2 weeks.

And all this happened in 9 SHORT MONTHS and he was carted off to jail. My life was devasted in 9 months.

And STILL even thougth he did Jail time, there were STILL some uneducated people who thought he was set up or that I was to blame.

BGIRL, for you own survival, You need to find a way to reconcile this in your brain so that you better understand that we cannot blame others for their ignorance.

Surround yourself with those who love you and GET IT and for now, until we can get the word out to the others. TRY to LET THAT part go.

He will offend again; they always do, This does all eventually come out in the wash, it just takes time for their true colors to be revealed. He will do this again, he cannot help himself, it is his nature and when he does, they will ALL remember your story. You did have a voice; you did speak up. He did not completely get away with it because they do know; they just did not want to admit that they know to you.

IT will happen. Look how long it took for the pedophille Catholic Priests to be uncovered. YET they were. A group of BRAVE Boston Globe Reporters blew the whstle on these freaks, headed by Walter Robinson.... http://www.amazon.com/Betrayal-The-Crisis-Catholic-Church/dp/0316776750

AND THEY WERE DONE.

Read that book and tell me that a small group of people cannot make a difference.

One small group of newspaper reporters blew the lid off of a practice which had been going on for centuries. http://www.northeastern.edu/journalism/contact/robinson.html

We are the pioneers, we are going to make a difference. You are part of a group of people here WHO KNOW the way it is and sometimes that is as good as it gets for NOW.

I HAVE MY VOICE BACK and I will not stop until every last one of you are empowered and feeling good about yourselves again and back in ths saddle where you rightfully belong.

It will come my dear Ggirl it just takes time. A full recovery can take a few years depending on the extent of the devastion and for you unfortuantely it hit you hard on ALL LEVELS. The betrayal you experienced was horrendous. I can still remember my reaction when I first read your story. I loved you from day one. There was NO JUDGEMENT coming from me towards you from day one. Because I lived with that type of BETRAYAL since I was a little girl.

Try to embrace that we love you and we get you for today and the rest will come in time.

God bless,
Goldie

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Comments

bgirl's picture

You are right....he

You are right....he absolutely smashed me on every level.

For me...this scenario is the hardest for me to overcome...

My strongest traits: honesty and loyalty.
This is how he played me and undermined my very core.

I told him how I felt about him. (truth)
I told my husband how I felt about N (truth)

He did not tell his wife or family (deceit)
I protested about this...talked to him about this, pleaded with him...and then said I could no longer partake in this....so what does he do.

Tells me I LIED to him. He said...'didn't you tell me you loved me and that you'd be here for me...who's the liar now..?'

Guess what I did? I stayed with him.
I did say those things...so going back on my word was lying wasn't it? A lie is a lie...so I was just as bad as him if I didn't comply wasn't I? At least this is what I thought.

My loyalty and honesty is what brought me undone.
I was a mess.
My core values were no longer my guide....they were my liability.

I was no match for a PD....I SEE THAT NOW.

On the surface no one knows what he did or how he manipulated me...the guilt trips, the intimidation, the emotional blackmail.

He has really messed me up and I livenin a cycle of guilt, anger and self judgment and battery.

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Lisa E. Scott's picture

Wow

Blown away by this blog, Goldie! Thanks for sharing. You are so incredibly inspiring!

Love you lots,
Lisa

goldie's picture

What you are describing is the exact nature of manipulation

The old, "Do what I say; not as I do." Your emotions were involved so you could not see it. You had given away your power to him and your thinking became clouded.

Looking back it is clear to see what he was doing. When we are in it; we want to believe because our feelings are heightened and we lack perspective.

I called my narc a conman within a week or two of knowing him. Can you imagine this? I could see what he was and STILL, because I was getting sucked in at the same time. I ignored the obvious. I ignored it because I wanted to believe his lie's. I wanted to pretend that this man was madly in love with me and was the answer to MY yearning to feel deeply connected to another. He was pretending to fill that need in me. I was not protecting myself. I gave my power over to a preditor for several months and paid the price. I paid deeply. He was like a vulture swarming over my house and life, getting closer and closer to going in for the kill on his prey.

This is what it was and in early recovery I was angry, more so at myself for allowing this to happen, for not trusting what I could see in him. I was pretending that he was not that bad, because to admit to myself how bad he was; I would have to admit that I was sleeping with the devil. I sure did not want to own that.

The more distance between us, my thinking cleared up I realized that the part of me which could have allowed this into my life was the part of me which was still broken from family of origin "training." I was trained from early on to accept less than.

I honestly thought I had worked through that and yet......there was still a crack in my door of self doubt which allowed him in.

Recovery for me has been about realizing that yes, what they do it horrific, yet, I want to fix the part in me which on some level found this behavior to be acceptable.

I know we are brainwashed and they are disordered, yet, WHY did I not kick him out of Dodge at the first sign of major trouble?

I can see now why I did not and how I perpetuated the situation with my fantasy thinking and deep unresoved NEED to be loved in the way and the package in which the narc presented his love. I was not completely whole inside and I was looking for a love which was not real. No one can fill that hole inside. It needs to be filled with our own self approval first.

Then we can love in a way that is real, honest, and in proportion. The Narcs pretend love is over the top and that is exactly how he sucked me because I was looking for over the top love to fill that deficit in me.

This is what preditor is looking for and is expert at spotting.

They also look for the naive, the trusting types. Nothing wrong with being that way. It just makes it easier for them to sling their "magic" and their "charm." Their tangled web of deception.

Empower yourself and there is no longer a way for the Narc to gain entrance. He will not even see you at that point. You will not exist. You empowerment and your light will be too bright for them.

God bless,
Goldie

sharlenemorgan's picture

yes

You put words to my thoughts. Thank you so very much.

bgirl's picture

Yes...my need to feel loved

Yes...my need to feel loved was greater than my need to acknowledge reality. I was no match for his pathology. Naive little trusting soul.

Then the next time the emotional blackmail started...the illness. The inference of suicide. The tears. I fell hook, line and sinker.

I've changed so much....it is just trying to find a balance now...I'm far the other way...almost paranoid which is not much fun either...

Thank you Goldie.

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sadderbutwiser's picture

Goldie

everything you wrote is so true! the hardest part of my recovery(22 months NC)is that so many people think he is such a GREAT GUY. he should win an academy award, he is that good at fooling people. even his wife worships the ground he walks on after 25 years. it is truly nauseating. i found out the truth about him the hard way. i know there have been other women and always will be. he lives right down the street and it makes me sick to even see him. i just want the truth about him to come out. i know you said that eventually he will be found out, but i don't think so cause he's been fooling people for many years. i just found out the truth 2 years ago cause i tried to get close (we all know how that goes). i want to believe what you say, but if you can fool your wife for 25 years, i don't think he will ever be found out, and that is what is keeping me stuck. i have tried to tell people, but they just think im overreacting. i am SO FRUSTRATED! help!

sharlenemorgan's picture

He is so fucking wonderful

Educated,good looking, power and money. I am the crazy one? Little by little people see him and my 17 year old son sees it. Why did it take me so long? Back in the gym and power training 2 hours a day I try. That helps soooo much. Therapy helping and 10 steps back last week but moving forward again thanks to this website.Getting past the anger and moving on.

goldie's picture

This is not about what others think

This is about what you know to be true. Life is full of truth's that others are not ready to see. It is not our job to set others straight? I tried that for awhile in new recovery and many people do not appreciate the implication that they are "not bright" that they cannot "see things." People believe and see what they want to see. They don't need or want your imput. They have made up their own minds about a person and that is that, until THEY get screwed over, and then it is an entirely different story. They are not going to go out on a limb to help or support YOU when they cannot see it or it is not happening to THEM. This is the nature of most people.

Try to focus on what you know to be true and rebuilding your life without credence towards him and I believe you will begin to see a new perspective on this.

God bless,
Goldie

freaked's picture

Thnx Goldie and Lisa

Thanks for this post Goldie and Lisa.
Among the first steps towards healing is Awareness.
Reading thru this post, i noted that I too have been abused in various ways since i was a small child. No wonder, i reached this point today.

all these years and years...i certainly believed that i must be inferior scum and hence abused and rejected by all and sundry...

today, after being at this forum for nearly a year, I no longer have that inferiority complex...neither did i replace that with it's other extreme.

slowly slowly...i am feeling balanced about myself. I have to be like the lotus that lives in the marshpond.

I am learning and growing everyday nowadays.

and i am no longer seeking that elusive golden relationship...cos it is a chimera which will destroy me. Today, I concentrate on healing my soul and living life on a daily basis...(even though so dull and boring)

goldie's picture

Lol, Freaked

Yes, the Narc does wonders in giving the illusion of taking one from their boring dull lives. LOL Not boring with a Narc, a roller coaster ride for sure.

Towards the end though, I had grown weary of the N's facade. Same ole same, his repertoire was limited. He began to repeat himself the second time around. His charm and appeal was lost on me.

I could see him for what he was and a big phony bore, his bag of tricks was empty, shallow and hollow. It was like looking at a ghost; transparent; lacking substance. When he began to speak, i could see his lips moving, yet I could no longer hear his words. It was as though he was the puppet and his words were coming from somewhere else, the vantriloquist perhaps. He was EGO, devoid of the spirtual.

You have come far Freaked. What a miracle you are. Thank you for your kind words of support and encouragement towards us. You are a flower full of love, joy, and grace these days. It is beauiful to watch you blossom.

God bless,
Goldie

sugarosesweet's picture

sounds familiar

Omg,
The comments here.are.exactly what i have been living the past seven years.
i will not take him back this time. as has worn cold. i can predict him next move and what would happen if i did go back. it would be like signing my death.warrant!