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One thing, a PD is NOT, is HAPPY. He can "seem" happy because he doesn't hurt or feel like we do. He has a built in shut off valve to keep him from experiencing typical highs and lows. They are a flatline with bouts of fear and rage surfacing from time to time.
They do NOT experience joy. He is busting your chops parading the OW around in front of you. When someone "acts" so happy in front of an XGF of 2.5 years you just know that it is an "act."
Seriously, how "in love" can he be if he was spending the weekend with you while supposedly being happy with her. He is not.
Narcs are ALL about narc injury. They are big fat babies. You most likely crushed his fragile ego by saying or doing something. It doesn't take much. Any type of desire or need of yours, which goes against his, a facial expression he does not care for, going somewhere when he wanted you home, anything big or small can create narcissistic injury. When this occurs and trust me, you really did not do anything, this justifies them to cheat, because they have it so bad.
So they cheat out of spite, boredom, or just because they are narcs. The OW is interesting to them vaguely in the beginning. She is new, she does not know yet what a piece of shit he is, so they can be their "great I am" phony selves with this new person and she sucks up and kisses their ass because they are excited about the newness, just like we were.
The narc is sizing her up to see what type of supply she is going to be and she "screws" up. She serves him a pizza when he wanted a roast beef dinner, or she puts her child before him. Perhaps she said she was tired and did not need him to spend the night.
He NOW has narc injury over her, sooo......he calls you, old supply. It's good for the weekend, but he doesn't want the hassle of listening to any of your prior issues because you know him so well now, so he hangs with you and then goes back to his new supply who he can con much easier.
He may or may not marry her, it all depends on whether or not he finds her to be "wife" supply material. Will she be his virtual slave or not? Let's say for awhile she is and then she has to go away for a week because her mother is sick and she goes out of town. This creates narc injury because they don't like us to go away; leave them alone, and they resent her mother taking priority over them, sooo......
Ding ding, hello old supply: "I miss you, I think about you everyday, I never stopped loving you."
YOU are feeling pretty darn good by now and yet, you still harbor lingering doubts.
Maybe he means it this time, maybe he still does love me. OMG, I should at least have him over so I can see.
He comes over every night for 5 nights and is Mr. Prince Charming. You laugh together and cuddle and you are certain that he may very well have changed this time.
Then, 2 days before she is coming back, he grows restless, start pacing around and you can feel that old sinking feeling. You just know something is wrong. You keep asking him and he says it is nothing. He goes out for a few hours and comes back. You ask again. He says nothing and then begins to get testy and tells you to stop asking, he has stress at work. You brush it off and you both go to bed. Even the sex that nights seems off from the other 5 nights.
Then Sunday night, he says he has somewhere to go and he takes his things and says, he is just packing up to bring the stuff home to wash. Hours go by and he does not come back and he does not call. When you can take it now longer, you call and he says he's confused, he thinks he loves both of you now and needs some time to sort things out.
She returns Monday afternoon and you don't hear from him for 3 weeks and he calls because she is at a late business event and he is bored. "Hey Bebe, are you thinking about me?"
This could go on for years if you don't stop it. So you stop it and he does or does not marry her and 3 years later she kicks his sorry ass out because, NOW, he is cheating on her with someone else.
He comes by the house almost crying, telling you it is over with OW, she is not who he thought she was, he has always loved you and you are the one he wants. She just never sized up to you. He either says she was a crazy bitch or nice but he doesn't LOVE her the same way and he wants you back.
This is the roller coaster ride with a PD. This is what you have to look forward to if you let him back in and it never ends. It never changes. The story will be the same with her as it was with you.
They don't love. The use, con, control, and manipulate. Lies, lies, lies, and more lies.
As much as this hurts and I know what that feels like, you need to give yourself time away from him completely in order to sort out your thoughts and feeling and to see him for who he is not who you wish or want him to be.
God bless,
Goldie
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holy cow
September 28, 2012 - 7:40am — blueandgreenI cannot believe how spot on this is to my situation to my exN. wow. he has a new, young, perfect girlfriend who has none of the same "faults" I had...yet any moment he has free, he wants to see me. I'm the best, funniest, smartest....so he says. Unless he's mad at me for not having time because of my children, or saying I don't like his behavior. Then, I am selfish, cruel and an old hag.
I have so much work to do on myself. and understanding why I thought his behavior, rages, infidelity, triangulations, drug abuse and alcoholism were the best i could do. My name is blue and green because I am sad and sick. I want so much for this pain to go away.
Thank you!!!
May 24, 2012 - 11:22am — marigoldThis post was the most helpful and informative thing I've read on the behavior and thinking of a PD. I'll reread this whenever I'm feeling weak because I know it will remind me that staying away is the right thing to do. Thank you again!
Gosh!
April 18, 2012 - 4:48pm — sweetpeasarahThis is so spot on, feels like you were along for the ride with me!! Really, really, has helped me to read your words Goldie, thank you. How alike they all are...pathetic.
xx
See through his lies
April 14, 2012 - 11:03pm — chris maganI was seeing a Narc for almost 2 years until one day I had found out he had found himself a very wealthy NS, he broke my heart and could answer me when I had confronted him. a few weeks later he said he missed me and miss the good times we had together. I had realzed he was still with the other NS and he would lie to me that he was very unhappy with her because she has a bad temper and would arque with him a lot ( hello now I know why!!) right now he in europe with her and will be on a 10 luxurous cruise on the SilverSea with his NS. he claims he didn't want to go this trip with her because she annoys him and makes him nervous...lies..lies...lies. he said he wanted to fly with me to San Francisco on a 1 day fun trip with me...another lie!!! he wanted to make sure I was still addicted to him. I know he never love me but himself. now that he will be gone until May 1 the time away from him with no contact from him will give me time to reflect and re-claim my life again.
Lies and OW
April 11, 2012 - 8:08am — PortiaThe sad thing is that no one prepares women when they are young for the type of lies or the level of deception that these guys are capable of. I think about that article which articulated how "Special" your relationship is with the lies the N tells you, and how naive you are to believe those lies. My soon to be ex N states in one of his online sites that he is Not a player and he is only interested in ONE woman. I would love to be able to edit his lies, and add things like "If you are not a player, why have you had so many relationships with so many women over the years?" and "One woman??? Why were you living with me, being divorced by your soon to be ex wife, and carrying on with God knows how many women online? Why do you send out about 50 messages a day to women you see online to see who responds to your BS? The sad reality is that they have an incredible amount of energy to devote to finding new supply, when only a fraction of that energy could be used to create a good sustainable relationship. It makes no sense, they do everything to assure that they will not be happy either, and in the maantime, they leave a trail of broken hearts behind them. We long for what might have been, what could have been, but we have to live with what it really was. Whether you are a wife or a girlfriend is probably decided by how useful you are to him. The legal sanction of marriage just means it is harder to disolve, and probably more expensive. It means nothing to him.
I completely agree with
April 16, 2012 - 6:16am — lavendar19I completely agree with you.
I met my narc when I was only in high school. His symptoms steadily grew worse and worse each year, and in retrospect, I realize that I'd never been trained with regards to how I should deal with these people.
Maybe if our education system spent a little more time emphasizing such knowledge (in place of the theories and equations we never use again), we could begin to see a decline of these guys on the market..
EXACTLY
April 13, 2012 - 8:40am — insectt (not verified)EXACTLY
So true..
April 13, 2012 - 8:39am — insectt (not verified)"The sad reality is that they have an incredible amount of energy to devote to finding new supply, when only a fraction of that energy could be used to create a good sustainable relationship."
And that's ANY kind of realtionship..friends/roomates/co workers
Just the inimate ones get hit the hardest beause there is a deeper level of exploitation.
Everyone needs to read this.
April 11, 2012 - 6:53am — SparrowEveryone needs to read this. Brilliantly written. Thank you Goldie!
Oh Goldie..it is amazing how
April 10, 2012 - 9:16pm — greengirl91Oh Goldie..it is amazing how much suffering it takes, and from so many people, so that the Ns have "their way" with everyone.
It`s a big theatre play. I know there are yet so many OW out there in the rollercoaster, not ready to hear these words. I had some friends like that as well. But I guess it`s up to each off them to find out on their own when they are ready for the truth..
Nothing changes. It will probably be the same 10 years from now, and if you don`t stop them, they chew out your soul, and throw it out, and go onto the next puppet. It`s up to us to stop it.
Thank you for this reminder!
Blessings and Happy Easter!
Yes, Greengirl it is one big Cluster F---
April 10, 2012 - 9:57pm — goldieThis is what you get. They don't change. They are Players. They use people and Devalue & Discard until.....they want or need to use you again.
I'll never forget the time my X came back professing his "LOVE" for me and shortly thereafter, he comes home all depressed. He wouldn't even let me kiss him hello. He said he was dirty and had to take a shower. I was cooking dinner and went into the bedroom; he was lying on the bed stroking the cat staring vacantly into space. I got that OLD sinking feeling and I JUST KNEW.....
Some OW had rejected him and the poor bebe had to stay with old supply (me) and he was completely bummed out about it. I looked at him and said, OMG, you are doing it again and told him what I thought. He did not say a word.
Later that evening, he just walked up to me and smirks, like it is some kind of joke and says: "I love you because you know me so well."
THIS is his interpretation of LOVE........that I can see when he is trying to screw me AND HER over and this constitutes, LOVE?
He is lying to her about being single......lying to me about being faithful.
So, it is nothing more than just one big fat Cluster F---.
God bless,
Goldie
"Protect yourself and your heart with NC. It is the only defense and protection for YOUR heart and YOUR soul against a PD."
that spoke to me
June 3, 2012 - 1:52am — virgo1286your words spoke life to me it was many times my girlfriend would run to my arms when the world had beat her down, as far as other women she would come home and talk to me about them the ones she disliked the most just gave a leery feeling like something wasnt right with the story and her disappearing acts started to happen more, and now she is gone but im happy I just want to get over her, but the sad part is waking up and realizing it was a fake, thats a hard pill to swallow, and the biggest thing I couldnt understand the convincing of being faithful but cant admit she was in a relationship.I was so confused I was calling physics just to find out the truth, cause I would have this sick feeling she was, some said she did and some said she didnt so you can guess what state of confused mess I was in.
OMG
April 10, 2012 - 9:15pm — Janie53OMG
You said it Sister Jamie
April 10, 2012 - 9:58pm — goldieGod bless,
Goldie
Excellent!!
April 10, 2012 - 9:08pm — HunterExcellent!!
Thank you Hunter
April 10, 2012 - 10:00pm — goldieBeen there; done that. We only have to do this once and we become immuned to them. Like a vacination.
I am now vacinated against PD's entering my heart.
You have just entered a NO NARC ZONE.
Walk on by.......
God bless,
Goldie
Absolutely brilliant
April 10, 2012 - 8:37pm — JourneyAbsolutely brilliant Goldie!!! In a nutshell, there it is... xoxo
Thank you Journey
April 10, 2012 - 10:02pm — goldieWe only have to walk down that path once thank you. WE are now on THE PATH FORWARD.
God bless,
Goldie
Goldie...thanks for the reminder
April 10, 2012 - 8:17pm — fearlessfemaleI will be ready when and if he comes back ringing the door bell. SHOULD he ever come back...I'm fairly certain he realizes this "supply girl" won't be home waiting for him anymore.
It will go like this for Xnarc that hurt me.
ding, ding, Hello? Old supply are you home? Hmmm? Where could she be...why isn't she running to the door with that big smile and open arms and tears running down her face so grateful to see me. Surely it's not because I abused her and threw her away.
I will not be answering the door.
My message to him if he could read my mind:
Sorry, old supply is not home, she can't come to the door right now, or EVER!
I hope someone reads your post tonight Goldie and makes the decision to walk away, go complete no contact.
They will save themselves a lot of pain and confusion.
They will in fact be saving THEMSELVES period.
PLEASE READ IT AND BELIEVE IT if you are out there
wondering...unsure...needing guidance or advice.
It may be painful to read, that's for sure, but true and
not nearly as painful as the inevitable abuse of a Narcissist.
They are liars and phonies....darkhearts.
If I had read this over a year ago, I could have
spared myself some serious trauma from the horrible
devastation of his final devalue and discarding of me.
Thanks Goldie for reminding me not to answer the door bell.
I will heed the advice...no second guessing here!
-fefe
That's what this is all about Fefe
April 10, 2012 - 10:28pm — goldieI am now in the Narcs head. I have been doing this for so long now that I can see right through them. I can see what they are going to do before they do it. It took me years to GET IT and now that I do. I have my voice back and I will NOT SHUT UP until every last one of them is uncovered and brought right out into the light.
They fester in the darkness. In the darkness which they brought into and created in lives, OUR darkness and OUR denial system allows them to survive. Because we wanted so badly to believe. They want us to be codependent and naive to them. To live with self doubt and insecurity. This is where they "hook us". In the part of us that is looking for that fantacy love.
They are blinded and weakened by the light. Once we find our voices and our strength and empowerment; there is no where for them to flourish. They wither away in the light, they run and hide from the light.
The TRUTH is our defense; our power. ONCE we see them for what and who they are. We are set free; they no longer have any control or hold on us.
As long as I bought into the illusion of who I wanted him to be as opposed to who he actually was, I stayed bonded to him. Once I could step back long enough to see the sick, twisted, selfish, cruel, cheating, lying, social deviant he was, it was then that I was set free and he was no longer anything special.
The way to the truth, light, and freedom is to stay away from them long enough to begin to heal and see them as they are.
Keep that door shut Fefe; no matter what. He'll be back, they all come back to try and finish us off. I'm sure they are surprised to find out how well we are doing without them.
God bless,
Goldie
This should be read on a
April 10, 2012 - 8:11pm — Run4itThis should be read on a regular basis because one of the hardest things to accept is that the OW is no different and certainly not more special.
My Narc never showed joy over anything or anyone in the 1.5 years I spent with him. What a miserable existence....
Thank you for all you do Goldie.
Run4it
Thank you Run4it
April 10, 2012 - 11:09pm — goldieThey don't leave you or grow bored with you because you are not good enough. They do it because you are no longer making them the center of the universe which is natural as a relationship progresses past the honeymoon stage. This is not natural for the N. He wants you to adore him no matter how badly they treat you.
OW is simply fresh blood, new supply. Unsuspecting. That is all. Until she become you and then back to the drawing board for some more new supply. They are always on the prowl for new supply.
It is nothing personal to them; just who they are.
God bless,
Goldie
All of your responses are so
April 25, 2012 - 7:58pm — courlieAll of your responses are so helpful goldie... my ex-Narc had a new supply two weeks after he ended our 1 year relationship out of no where. I feel so badly for her... he is such an evil being and I don't wish this debilitating pain on anyone else. I'm hoping she gets out before it's too late and also that he doesn't come back to me (he's left me alone for two months now). Narcs are like a drug... you know theyre caustic but can't stay away. Praying for strength for not only myself but everyone else here. No contact is the only way to regain the strength we have inside our selves, no matter how hidden that strength is.
hugs,
Courlie
Thank you
April 14, 2012 - 11:30pm — chris maganThank you Goldie for reminding me that's all I was to him a NS who was only there to boost his ego and I know I am a kind hearted person who does not deserved an evil person like him in my life. I will always remember he is not the person who I thought he was and I see through his lies and deceptions.
Remind Me
April 12, 2012 - 3:44pm — BtrflyGrlPlease remind me again why I can't tell him what a piece of lying shit he is? Remind me again why I shouldn't go burst New Supplys bubble? Please remind me that this pain is only temporary and that I will not die of a broken heart. (Sorry this pain)